(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
DT[2007-04-08]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Child [13k\]: hi
AA101: hi
offtosea [7k\]: hello mingjui!
Javaness [1d\]: hi hi
Kamisama [4k\]: hi
wbendick [9k\]: hi
mb76 [7k\]: hi
offtosea [7k\]: yes
TheChill [5k\]: Hello!
Shana [5k\]: hi
zee [4k\]: yes
Child [13k\]: sound ok
farlaanjar [3k\]: yes
agui [4k\]: Hello
siegpier [-\]: Hello
AA101: hi mingjiu
eda [10k\]: hi :)
lupis [3k\]: good evenig
shuuin [4k\]: homework
shuuin [4k\]: can you repeat the question?
Assu [3d\]: :P
shuuin [4k\]: ok
Assu [3d\]: where is guojuan?
zweitNick [5k\]: no guo juan today?
Assu [3d\]: we miss her :)
shuuin [4k\]: she's alive
zweitNick [5k\]: so longer mingjiu lesson instead
farlaanjar [3k\]: thank you minjiu
ZzRobinzZ [8k\]: 謝謝 :)
icebucket [-\]: thx
Antiphet [3k\]: Feichang ganxie.
wbendick [9k\]: thanks
TheChill [5k\]: thank you
dsaun [1k\]: thank you
zweitNick [5k\]: thanks mingjiu
lupis [3k\]: bye, till next week and thx for the lecture.
Komulink [17k\]: thank you
sufi [7k?\]: thank you Teacher
eda [10k\]: thank you
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu !
agui [4k\]: Thank you very much !
jantiff [-\]: thank you
BlueOcean [2d\]: thank you
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundaion
Sabai [5k\]: thx
shuuin [4k\]: see you
farlaanjar [3k\]: bye
offtosea [7k\]: thanks Ing go foundation and mingjui
agui [4k\]: See you
AA101: bye
eda [10k\]: bye
Komulink [17k\]: byye
wbendick [9k\]: bye
agui [4k\]: bye
]
(;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[cd]
;W[qp]
;B[cn]
(;W[ed]
;B[fq]
;W[eo]
;B[cq]C[Kamisama [4k\]: white g4?
agui [4k\]: D3
]
(;W[gp]C[reed338 [5k?\]: p3
]
(;B[cp]C[Qualx [9k\]: yay! sunday lecture
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: Black had choice on D3, C4 for direction of joseki.  and B can tenuke afterwards
]
;W[gq])
(;B[dq]
;W[gq]
;B[]
;W[cp]))
(;W[dm]
(;B[cp])
(;B[dq]))
(;W[dg]
;B[jc]TR[cd]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: white refuse to do the exchange and save it for later opportunities. so W tenuke
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: What does K17 means?
]
;W[cc]TR[cd]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: B treats C16 light and play fast. such as this sequence ending B on P4
Javaness [1d\]: D17
Child [13k\]: b17 
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: There is a tesuji.
Vanya [3k\]: d17 
]
(;B[op]C[Qualx [9k\]: bucket, are you doing this as voluntary work?
]
(;W[lp]
(;B[on])
(;B[qo])
(;B[pm]
;W[oo]
;B[no]
;W[on]
;B[pp]
(;W[qn]
;B[qq]
;W[qo]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[pr]
;W[qi]TR[lp]C[Kamisama [4k\]: white
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: Joseki.  How is this result??  B or W?
flogo [3d\]: black
icebucket [-\]: it's black's turn B can do something to that stone
flogo [3d\]: m4 dead
agui [4k\]: no
icebucket [-\]: 2 floater
Vanya [3k\]: yes
kgs25kyu [4d\]: l 6 for b ?
]
;B[dq])
(;W[qo]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: In game white probably should p[lay R5 depends on ladder
]
(;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]
;W[qm]
;B[rn]
;W[rm]
;B[om]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: This is the ladder W need to read
Kamisama [4k\]: well its good for white so :)
])
(;B[qq])
(;B[mp]
;W[qq]C[Qualx [9k\]: i suppose n4 on q5 is hopeless.
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  How about here. in this variation. B or W?
offtosea [7k\]: w
agui [4k\]: black
kgs25kyu [4d\]: w 
Qualx [9k\]: w
TheChill [5k\]: W
Vanya [3k\]: w
mugeimumei [5k?\]: w
jantiff [-\]: w still
eda [10k\]: w
Shana [5k\]: w
]))))
(;W[oq]C[icebucket [-\]: yes
]
(;B[nq]
;W[pq]
;B[np]
;W[qn]
;B[jp]
;W[dm]
;B[dq]
;W[cm]
(;B[hp]
;W[nr]
;B[mr]
;W[or]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  B shapes not efficient. 'cause need to cover H4, N4 weakness
]
;B[lq])
(;B[]
(;W[hq])
(;W[ip]TR[eo])))
(;B[pp]))
(;W[pn]
;B[qq]
;W[rq]
;B[pq]
;W[ro]
;B[kq]TR[cq][fq][kq][pq][qq]C[kgs25kyu [4d\]: l3
Child [13k\]: too low ?
Kamisama [4k\]: too low now?
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  Another joseki ariant
Jadeite [15k?\]: low
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: 5 stones on 3rd line.  
agui [4k\]: no
]
;W[dm])
(;W[oo]C[BlueMoon [-\]: pincer at n3?
]
;B[no]
;W[on]
;B[pp]
;W[qo]C[Qualx [9k\]: kgs25kyu, you're outvoted
]
(;B[kp]
;W[qq]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: commpare it with this joseki
])
(;B[mp]
;W[qq]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: B Q7 has no significant meaning at the time. But what about Exchange A, B?  White had lost
]
;B[pm]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]LB[lo:B][lp:A]TR[pm]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: how about now?
Kamisama [4k\]: black 
henzino [10k\]: b
agui [4k\]: black
eda [10k\]: b
])
(;B[pm]
;W[lp]
(;B[mp]
;W[lo]
;B[nn]C[icebucket [-\]: Welcome back Scribe.  take over :)
]
;W[om]
;B[qq]
(;W[rq]
;B[rr]
;W[qr]
;B[pq]
;W[sr]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: how about here?
agui [4k\]: S4
TheChill [5k\]: push and cut
]
;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]
;W[ro]
;B[mm]TR[lo][lp]C[jantiff [-\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: White did not increase territory, bu the two marked stones are very heavy
agui [4k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: no large increase
]
;W[ol]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: Ths is still a ladder
siegpier [-\]: White
]
;B[kn]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: How about this?
]
;W[ip]
;B[dq]LB[qj:A]C[Vanya [3k\]: good for b
thinktwice [?\]: black
henzino [10k\]: white
eda [10k\]: w
agui [4k\]: S4 first ?
]
;
;W[]
;B[qj]
;W[ql]C[Asumi [5d?\]: if W is Kato THE KILLER, then W is better ^_^
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu prefers Black in this situation
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: B is better here
offtosea [7k\]: b
])
(;W[qn]
;B[rq]LB[lo:B][mp:A]))
(;B[qq]C[Vanya [3k\]: almost
Scribe [-\]: influence from upper stones hurt
]
(;W[qn]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[mp]
;W[lo]C[agui [4k\]: no
thinktwice [?\]: no
Shana [5k\]: no
jantiff [-\]: no
]
;B[rq]LB[lo:B][mp:A]C[Scribe [-\]: exchange is good for White
])
(;W[rq]C[Asumi [5d?\]: well, long time ago, Masters used to chose students, today students chose Masters
henzino [10k\]: someone turned on a computer?
]
(;B[qr]
;W[np]C[jantiff [-\]: so even with R5 b can fight hard
]
;B[rr]
;W[nq]
;B[or]C[Scribe [-\]: Bad move by Black at r2
]
(;W[qn]C[thinktwice [?\]: good for white
Scribe [-\]: black boxed in too small....very good for white
Qualx [9k\]: sorry, what did you say about q5?
]
;B[ql]
;W[qm]C[jantiff [-\]: :)
])
(;W[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: d16 better than b16 to fix the shape in the upper left
]
(;B[ql]
(;W[rm]
(;B[dq])
(;B[mo])
(;B[]
;W[pl]
(;B[pk])
(;B[pj])))
(;W[qn]))
(;B[dq]C[Scribe [-\]: very slow move by Black at d3
eda [10k\]:  does black has to close q8 after r8? 
Asumi [5d?\]: Mingjiu*, sorry
]
(;W[ql]
;B[mo])
(;W[bd]
(;B[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: b16.....Why ???
]
;W[rm]C[icebucket [-\]: takes corner
]
(;B[mo])
(;B[pl]C[agui [4k\]: what about M5 ?
]
;W[mm]
;B[qg]
;W[qi]C[jantiff [-\]: try q5 to learn something, not r2
fab [-\]: black need to cut at Q5 instead or R2
icebucket [-\]: bad idea doesn't do much
]
;B[nk]
;W[oi]
;B[nm]
;W[nn]
;B[mj]
;W[mi]
;B[li]
;W[mh]
;B[lj]
;W[lh]
;B[kh]
;W[ok]
;B[kg]C[agui [4k\]: Yes
TheChill [5k\]: who won?
kimba [1k\]: who won the game?
Dita [1k\]: lol
zweitNick [5k\]: doesnt matter
Asumi [5d?\]: what do they think about this game, your student?????
agui [4k\]: Wghat about M5 after N5
Asumi [5d?\]: 40min+1min byoyomi
icebucket [-\]: close to tournament time
fab [-\]: one min byo-yomi still is a lot ^^
Iceborg [6k\]: w o8 - is it a cut?
kimba [1k\]: lets not be too strict
Qualx [9k\]: yay?
]))
(;B[ce]))
(;W[dd]C[Asumi [5d?\]: 2nd line seems very popular in Mingju's school ^_^
icebucket [-\]: C16 has Tesuji at B15
]))
(;B[]C[Jadeite [15k?\]: criticise
]
(;W[ql])
(;W[bd]
;B[dq]
;W[]
;B[ql]
;W[rm]LB[gc:C][pc:G][ce:E][qg:B][pi:A][pj:H][ck:D][jq:F]TR[pm]C[Billator [2d\]: q11 
kimba [1k\]: r13
Child [13k\]: g17 
Vanya [3k\]: B
fab [-\]: C9
jantiff [-\]: C15 ?
eda [10k\]:  k3 ?
TheChill [5k\]: Q17?
icebucket [-\]: running out of alphabet...
dsaun [1k\]: these can't all be right :)
icebucket [-\]: N8!!!
agui [4k\]: Q10
]
(;B[mo]C[Vanya [3k\]: o8 ?
Scribe [-\]: URGENT MOVE
agui [4k\]: M5
]
;W[kp]
(;B[mm]
;W[pl]
;B[ip]C[icebucket [-\]: n5 attacking move.  nice
jantiff [-\]: of course :(
])
(;B[pl]))
(;B[pl]
;W[mm]TR[pl][ql][pm]C[icebucket [-\]: BIg center
henzino [10k\]: no
kimba [1k\]: no
wbendick [9k\]: white
jantiff [-\]: no !
Dita [1k\]: Q8 feels small now
]
;B[qg]C[icebucket [-\]: aggressive..
icebucket [-\]: but very inefficient
kimba [1k\]: both bad
]
(;W[qi]LB[bd:A][qi:B]C[icebucket [-\]: white attacks Q group
]
(;B[oi]C[jantiff [-\]: so the invasion is not worth it !
])
(;B[nk]LB[ln:B][ko:A]
;W[oi]LB[kn:A]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: bad exchange
]
(;B[nm]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: Very bad idea for B
]
;W[nn]
;B[mj]LB[nm:A][nn:B]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  This is likely Blacks plan to run out
icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  black should make O7 exchange prior N10
Child [13k\]: well, he is only 6d
]
;W[mi]
;B[li]
;W[mh]
;B[lj]
;W[lh])
(;B[mj]
(;W[ok]C[fab [-\]: shouldn't*
]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[om]
;W[nm]
;B[oj]
;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[qk]
;B[qj]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]C[zweitNick [5k\]: lol
jantiff [-\]: lol
agui [4k\]: :))
])
(;W[mi]
;B[nm]
;W[nn]
;B[li]
;W[mh]C[Scribe [-\]: Good result for White
]
;B[lj]
;W[lh]C[Scribe [-\]: White runs through Blacks influence area
zhihao [4k\]: scold seriously
icebucket [-\]: spanked?
]
;B[kh]
(;W[kg]C[Dita [1k\]: harsh words?
icebucket [-\]: very critical?
Scribe [-\]: misguided ?
Asumi [5d?\]: students who dont listen Master's advice ^_^
Jadeite [15k?\]: say again
jantiff [-\]: ^^
kiyosumi [3d\]: very serious?
icebucket [-\]: >.<  I can just say.  the student got yelled?
]
;B[jh]
;W[jg])
(;W[ok]
;B[kg]LB[nm:A][nn:B]C[Billator [2d\]: s9 
]
;W[ol]
;B[om]
;W[nl]
;B[ml]
(;W[nj]
;B[mn]
;W[lm]
;B[po]C[jantiff [-\]: yes
])
(;W[mn]
;B[oj]
;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[qk]
;B[qj]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]))))))
(;W[rk])
(;W[mk]
(;B[pi])
(;B[rl]
;W[oj]
;B[qi]C[eda [10k\]: this
icebucket [-\]: this is stronger
henzino [10k\]: this
])
(;B[]))
(;W[gp]TR[mm]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: white should go G4 and make its group work together
Dita [1k\]: D7 is a option too?
]))))))
(;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]))
(;W[np]C[Scribe [-\]: Black need not fear this cut
kimba [1k\]: complex
]
;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[qn]
(;W[rn]
;B[qm]
;W[rq]C[flogo [3d\]: sacrifice ?
Asumi [5d?\]: ladders never work when you need 'em
]
;B[pq]C[TheChill [5k\]: Would B N7 be able to capture cutting stones?
]
;W[rr]
(;B[nq]
;W[mp]
;B[nm]
;W[nn]
;B[mn]
;W[mo]
;B[om]
;W[no]C[Scribe [-\]: ladder good for White, makes cut at o4 doable
agui [4k\]: P2
icebucket [-\]: P2?
icebucket [-\]: >.<
agui [4k\]: :)
TheChill [5k\]: N2
]
(;B[or]
(;W[qr]
;B[lr]
;W[pr]
;B[oq]C[siegpier [-\]: n2
]
(;W[kr]
;B[lq]
;W[kq]
;B[kp]LB[fq:A])
(;W[mr]
;B[mq]
;W[lq]
;B[ms]
;W[kr]
;B[nr]
(;W[os]
;B[jr]C[agui [4k\]: L3
icebucket [-\]: that is ugly.
Billator [2d\]: q1 
thinktwice [?\]: l3
]
;W[ks]
;B[kq])
(;W[ks]C[Billator [2d\]: kill looks good here
agui [4k\]: instead of M1
]
(;B[ls]
;W[os]C[icebucket [-\]: ko
]
;B[kq]
;W[kp]
;B[jq]
;W[ps]C[jantiff [-\]: oops :)
icebucket [-\]: >.<  bad.
agui [4k\]: L3 first
])
(;B[kq]
;W[kp]
;B[jq]
;W[ls]
;B[jr]
;W[mr]
;B[ro]C[icebucket [-\]: yay i was right. KO
]))))
(;W[mr]
(;B[nr]
;W[qr]
;B[mq]
;W[lq]
;B[lr]
;W[pr]
;B[oq]C[icebucket [-\]: aww..
]
;W[ms]C[Javaness [1d\]: ohoh
icebucket [-\]: yeap
icebucket [-\]: done cooked
kimba [1k\]: nice
agui [4k\]: ahhhh , yes ! Nice !!
])
(;B[qr]
;W[nr]
;B[rs]
;W[rm]
;B[rl]
;W[ps])))
(;B[mr]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[lr]TR[nn][on][pn][oo]))
(;B[mp]
;W[nq]
;B[mq]
(;W[mo]
;B[nn])
(;W[nr]
;B[mm]C[icebucket [-\]: ??
jantiff [-\]: ouch
Qualx [9k\]: i like that move
Billator [2d\]: o6 
Qualx [9k\]: ladder breaks.
jantiff [-\]: thick
Billator [2d\]: o6 
Vanya [3k\]: outside thickness
Billator [2d\]: no o6
icebucket [-\]: whtie live small
]
(;W[om]
;B[ol]C[agui [4k\]: nice squeeze
Billator [2d\]: noi
])
(;W[nm]
;B[nn])
(;W[nn]
;B[mo]C[icebucket [-\]: W N5?
]
;W[pr]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]
;B[mn]
;W[qr]
;B[cp]C[jantiff [-\]: thick game
icebucket [-\]: B
sufi [7k?\]: B
Billator [2d\]: g4 
kimba [1k\]: b
agui [4k\]: black
offtosea [7k\]: b
Child [14k\]: b
]))))
(;W[rq]
;B[pq]
;W[rn]
;B[qm]
(;W[rr]
;B[mp]
;W[nq]
;B[mq]
;W[nr]C[agui [4k\]: Nice !!
]
;B[mm]C[icebucket [-\]: scribe are you scribing or should I continue?
Billator [2d\]: o6 
]
;W[nn]
;B[mo]
;W[pr]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]
;B[mn]
;W[qr]
(;B[go]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: White has no choice but B N7 takes outside influence and White live small.
])
(;B[cp]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: white is push to take small corner while B establish big outside
]))
(;W[nq]
;B[rr]
(;W[rp]
(;B[sr]
(;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[or]
;B[rm])
(;W[rm]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  Black lives
]
;B[or]C[kiyosumi [3d\]: no
agui [4k\]: no
Child [14k\]: yes
]))
(;B[rm]
;W[sr]
;B[qr]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: who wins the capture race?
farlaanjar [3k\]: b ki w
]
(;W[so]
;B[sq]C[eda [10k\]: white kills?
jantiff [-\]: how ?
])
(;W[oq]
;B[sn]
;W[rs]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: white makes KO
]
;B[qs])
(;W[]
;B[nm]
;W[nn]
;B[mn]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: but not enough to kill
]
;W[mo]
;B[om]
;W[no]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  but Black still have moves to get outside. Bad for white
])))
(;W[rm]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]:  What if black blocks.
]
;B[sq]))))))))
(;B[be]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: lives in corner or run outside
]
(;W[bc]
;B[ch]C[kgs25kyu [4d\]: nice
])
(;W[cf]
;B[dc]
;W[dd]
;B[bc]
;W[cb]
;B[db]C[icebucket [-\]:  mingjiu[7p\]: B B15 tesuji.
]))))
(;W[fq]
;B[dj]C[artkid [12k\]: good morning
]))
(;AW[ga][cb][gb][bc][cc][dc][ec][fc][gc]AB[fa][ha][bb][eb][hb][ac][hc][bd][hd][ce][ee][ge]C[shuuin [4k\]: hi Mr mingjiu
zweitNick [5k\]: 1hr too late shuuin :)
shuuin [4k\]: yeah^^
Qualx [9k\]: white dead
farlaanjar [3k\]: w still die
shuuin [4k\]: he can live
petro [1d\]: ko
Qualx [9k\]: how can he live?
shuuin [4k\]: b19
icebucket [-\]: live
Billator [2d\]: is ko
Billator [2d\]: at least
Qualx [9k\]: dead, without doubt
farlaanjar [3k\]: dead
Qualx [9k\]: where is his eyespace?
savra [3k\]: ko
Billator [2d\]: e19 
AA101: ko
TheChill [5k\]: ko
Billator [2d\]: for ko
zweitNick [5k\]: ll
zweitNick [5k\]: lol
Dita [1k\]: dead
TheChill [5k\]: dead
AA101: dead
henzino [10k\]: dead
shuuin [4k\]: no dead
AA101: dead
lupis [3k\]: dead
zweitNick [5k\]: very hard to live :)
Asumi [5d?\]: A18 seems not to weokr that easily
Asumi [5d?\]: work*
AA101: lve
Billator [2d\]: is clear alive but we don't know how
zweitNick [5k\]: cut through d15 :)
Harok [5k\]: ko
Harok [5k\]: oh no
Apsel [9k\]: dead
eda [10k\]: white can make a ko and live I guess
shuuin [4k\]: hi harok^^
zweitNick [5k\]: i see a ko
shuuin [4k\]: i see the black weakness
keshigomu [2k\]: is this a problem
Azaela [6k\]: ko
shuuin [4k\]: mingjiu lose his tongue
butcher [4k\]: a18 then c19?
]
;B[]C[icebucket [-\]: not yet
petro [1d\]: D15?
shimary [-\]: A 18
]
(;W[fb]C[lupis [3k\]: changed my mind alive :)
icebucket [-\]: >.<  
]
;B[ea]C[shuuin [4k\]: dead
])
(;W[ca]
;B[ab])
(;W[da]C[icebucket [-\]: B19 
]
;B[ab])
(;W[ea]C[zweitNick [5k\]: haha
]
(;B[da]C[henzino [10k\]: d19
]
;W[ab]C[kiyosumi [3d\]: d18
]
;B[aa]C[petro [1d\]: B19
]
(;W[ca]
;B[ad])
(;W[db]C[shuuin [4k\]: seki?
]
(;B[ea])
(;B[ad]
;W[fb]
;B[ea]C[kiyosumi [3d\]: oops
shuuin [4k\]: dead
]))
(;W[fb]
(;B[ad]
;W[ea])
(;B[ea]C[eda [10k\]: b19 
]
(;W[ca]
;B[ad]C[Assu [3d\]: B19
])
(;W[ba]C[henzino [10k\]: nice!
]
(;B[ca]C[agui [4k\]: Nice !!
Billator [2d\]: I sad e19
henzino [10k\]: but its still dead
zweitNick [5k\]: well done mister mingjiu
]
;W[db]C[Scribe [-\]: wow
dsaun [1k\]: b tenuki :)
mb76 [7k\]: nice
shuuin [4k\]: a18
Dita [1k\]: b cries
reed338 [5k?\]: black screwed
])
(;B[ad])))))
(;B[fb]
;W[db]))
(;W[ab]
;B[aa]
;W[ea]C[icebucket [-\]: more earlier
farlaanjar [3k\]: homework
Assu [3d\]: if u throw in u lose 1 point :)
icebucket [-\]: o well. ok
]
;B[da]
;W[fb]
(;B[ea]
;W[ba]C[shuuin [4k\]: no
icebucket [-\]: yes.
agui [4k\]: no
farlaanjar [3k\]: no
steev [10k\]: where is the ko, if b not e19?
icebucket [-\]: why didn't White play B19 at the begining
Dita [1k\]: so w is just alive
reed338 [5k?\]: no
Dita [1k\]: no ko?
]
;B[ca]
;W[db])
(;B[ad]C[Billator [2d\]: is ko
AA101: ko
Dita [1k\]: B19
]
;W[ba]
(;B[ca]
;W[db]C[Dita [1k\]: no ko
Dita [1k\]: :D
shuuin [4k\]: haha
Dita [1k\]: haha
Dita [1k\]: yes that was my sequence ;(
])
(;B[ab]C[Dita [1k\]: :P
shuuin [4k\]: ko
shuuin [4k\]: no it's mine
icebucket [-\]: Question:   White lives with B19 at the begining no?
shuuin [4k\]: no
icebucket [-\]: first mvoe
]
;W[ea]C[Dita [1k\]: ahh ok
]))))
(;B[ba]
;W[ca]
;B[bb]
;W[cb]
;B[bc]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]C[Assu [3d\]: "now time for the homework"!!!
]
;W[eb]
;B[dd]
;W[fc]
;B[ed]
;W[gc]
;B[fd]
;W[hb]
;B[hc]
;AB[jb][ic][kc][gd]C[shuuin [4k\]: black turn
Billator [2d\]: f19 
Assu [3d\]: bye
Scribe [-\]: Homework !
Scribe [-\]: Dont say anything this week !
shuuin [4k\]: dead or alive
thinktwice [?\]: bye
Scribe [-\]: Wait till next week !
Assu [3d\]: black to play and kill
shuuin [4k\]: i see
dsaun [1k\]: looks like "w to play" on top indicator
shuuin [4k\]: the answer
Asumi [5d?\]: xiexie ni
wbendick [9k\]: well its not
Assu [3d\]: forgot to pass
dsaun [1k\]: please pass
]))
