(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[900]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
DT[2007-02-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Scribe [-\]: Nihao Mingjiu Laoshi
guojuan [5p\]: hi
grumpfl [6k\]: hi
agui [4k\]: Hello
Wolff8 [20k\]: hi
Shinichi56 [2k\]: hi
kiyosumi [2d\]: yes
woos [5k\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: yes
grumpfl [6k\]: yes
babakhan [6k?\]: Yes, clearly.
Plunder [4k\]: ya =)
woos [5k\]: hi
Shinichi56 [2k\]: yeah!
jackblack1 [7k\]: yep :)
agui [4k\]: Hellop
kirkbobic [1k\]: hello
Assu [2d\]: sound good
wossname [1k\]: HI
Assu [2d\]: :o hw?
Bodo212 [7k\]: thanks for the lecture -  but not so easy
icebucket [8k?\]: For next week.
]
(;B[qd]
(;W[dd]
;B[cp]
;W[pp]
;B[oc]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[fq]
;B[dq]
;W[pj]C[Scribe [-\]: better for black than the game is cutting at f4
]
(;B[nq]C[agui [4k\]: what if black extends first ?
Scribe [-\]: black tenuki corner after white g4 to make play on bottom at L3 ?
agui [4k\]: after G4
agui [4k\]: after white G4 black K3 ?
Scribe [-\]: White G4 now
]
;W[gp]C[Scribe [-\]: now Black extends on bottom
]
(;B[cn]C[egemen [-\]: w is happy?
ligo [?\]: q10
Scribe [-\]: The variation is better
]
(;W[kq]C[cynewulf [-\]: good for W
Shinichi56 [2k\]: h3 possible for b?
]
;B[qq]
(;W[pq]
;B[qp]
;W[po]
;B[pr]
;W[or]
;B[qr]
;W[oq]
;B[qn]TR[pj][hr][ir][jr][kr][lr][mr]C[cynewulf [-\]: other
bkibi: m3
wossname [1k\]: i like l3
Plunder [4k\]: this one I think
agui [4k\]: this is better
Violence [?\]: I like white R4 instead of Q3
egemen [-\]: q 10 is not good i think
butterfork: 1st
babakhan [6k?\]: First one.
Violence [?\]: I don't like this
gomasch [2d\]: i am tempted to say i like the first one better
Plunder [4k\]: first one leaves a lot of ajie
Scribe [-\]: which is better for white: the game or the variation ?
ligo [?\]: r10 stone is key i think
Scribe [-\]: The game is better for white than the variation
])
(;W[qp]
;B[pq]
;W[op]
;B[oq]))
(;W[lq]C[Scribe [-\]: pincer and extension stone at m3...dual purpose.  always valuable
agui [4k\]: yes
Violence [?\]: yes
grumpfl [6k\]: yes
jackblack1 [7k\]: now B O5?
Violence [?\]: clear
agui [4k\]: yes
babakhan [6k?\]: Yes, clear...
]
(;B[qq]
;W[qp]
;B[pq]
;W[op]
(;B[nr]
;W[mo])
(;B[oq]
;W[np]))
(;B[no]
;W[pn]
(;B[kp]
;W[kq]
;B[jp]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]
;W[jq]
;B[ip]
;W[iq])
(;B[hq]
;W[gr]
;B[kp]
;W[kq]
;B[jp]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]
;W[jq]
;B[ip]
;W[hr]LB[er:A]C[Scribe [-\]: sequence is good for white
jackblack1 [7k\]: I see.  Thank you.
Assu [2d\]: hmm
Shinichi56 [2k\]: ?
Assu [2d\]: what happened?
murky: break time?
Violence [?\]: Connection problems?
Kamisama [5k\]: talking over skype probably
Javaness [1d\]: mingjiu
bkibi: lag
Scribe [-\]: Server experiencing problems 
Violence [?\]: No, alot of people are lagging right now.
Assu [2d\]: yes
Assu [2d\]: I hear you
Kamisama [5k\]: :)
babakhan [6k?\]: YEs...
Alenchon [8k?\]: yes
jackblack1 [7k\]: yes
svante [1k\]: yes
grumpfl [6k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: Yes
Eranorn [7k\]: me too
Shinichi56 [2k\]: allo
Kamisama [5k\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: welcome Back
Geen [11k\]: hello
Titan [6k\]: yes
Shinichi56 [2k\]: yes
Assu [2d\]: :D
]))))
(;B[jq]
;W[lq])
(;B[kq]
;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[dp]
;B[bq]C[agui [4k\]: yes it was Thank you !
]
;W[cn]
;B[bn]
;W[cm]TR[cm][cn][co][dp][ep][gp][fq]C[Scribe [-\]: k3 too near white thickness\\
Scribe [-\]: white is favored
Scribe [-\]: black is enclosed in lower left corner
agui [4k\]: ok Thanks
Scribe [-\]: maintaining path to the center is important
]))
(;B[fp]
(;W[gq]C[Scribe [-\]: the one space pincer is the better play at move 14
]
;B[fo]
;W[jq]
;B[qq]C[Javaness [1d\]: interesting
])
(;W[nq]
;B[gp])))
(;W[dc]C[jackblack1 [7k\]: OK, let's go! :)
]
;B[cp]
;W[pq]
;B[oc]
;W[eq]
;B[po]
;W[qm]
(;B[qq]
;W[qp]
;B[pp]
;W[qo]
;B[qn]
;W[pn]C[Assu [2d\]: yep
]
;B[rn]
;W[rq]C[Shinichi56 [2k\]: yes
]
;B[qr]
;W[ro]
;B[oq]
;W[rm]
;B[on]
;W[pm]LB[qf:A][qh:E][qi:D][qj:C][qk:B]TR[oc][qd][pm][qm][rm][pn]C[Assu [2d\]: b
wossname [1k\]: b
Assu [2d\]: black
agui [4k\]: black
Shinichi56 [2k\]: b
Violence [?\]: Black
kiyosumi [2d\]: black
Titan [6k\]: b
Pooyou [3k\]: black
RaulSeixas [-\]: w
jackblack1 [7k\]: w :)
pugh [7k\]: even
wossname [1k\]: sente to pincer
Assu [2d\]: sente harrasment
agui [4k\]: black can extend and pincer
Violence [?\]: J3
Shinichi56 [2k\]: i could attack e3 with influence
Scribe [-\]: Black corner enclosure and White wall face each other
Scribe [-\]: White could play r14
TearAway [2k?\]: r11 
Violence [?\]: no
Fabiano [-\]: too
RaulSeixas [-\]: allrigt
Violence [?\]: R11 looks ok
Scribe [-\]: Black can not play at r9 too close to White
wossname [1k\]: R13
]
(;B[]C[Scribe [-\]: Black must hold back to play at r12
]
(;W[qf])
(;W[]C[Scribe [-\]: White can take more on the right side than Black can do
TearAway [2k?\]: nice:)
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu prefers White
Assu [2d\]: what about if black plays lower left corner?
]
(;B[qk])
(;B[qj])
(;B[qi]
;W[qg])
(;B[qh])
(;B[hp])
(;B[gq])
(;B[jp]C[icebucket [8k?\]: higher
]
;W[oo]
;B[op]
;W[no]
;B[mp]
;W[mo]
;B[lp]LB[jp:A]C[Violence [?\]: oh
Fabiano [-\]: too close
Violence [?\]: too close
Assu [2d\]: too close
agui [4k\]: too close
])
(;B[iq]
;W[en]
;B[cm]
;W[oo]
;B[op]
;W[no]
;B[mp]
;W[mo]
;B[lp]
;W[lo]
;B[kp]C[Assu [2d\]: b is doing bad
])))
(;B[hp]
(;W[en]
;B[cm]
;W[ce])
(;W[fp]
(;B[dn]
;W[cr]
;B[cj]C[Violence [?\]: Homework!
]
;W[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: real game
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu does not like Black's situation
Assu [2d\]: ...but situation is wrong :)
]
(;B[kp]
;W[oo]
;B[op]
;W[no])
(;B[no]
;W[jq]))
(;B[dm]
;W[cr]
(;B[ce])
(;B[cf]LB[ce:B][cf:A]C[Scribe [-\]: Black needs to play faster
Fabiano [-\]: yes
pugh [7k\]: yes
agui [4k\]: yes
kirkbobic [1k\]: yes
babakhan [6k?\]: yes...
Assu [2d\]: yeah sensei!!
Violence [?\]: yes
])))))
(;B[on]C[Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu's path with Black
]
(;W[np]
;B[qq]
;W[qr]
;B[qp]
;W[or]
;B[pl]
;W[qk]
;B[qi]TR[oc][qd]C[Scribe [-\]: Black seeks to make the corner enclosure work well
])
(;W[qp]
;B[pl]TR[oc][qd]C[Fabiano [-\]:  why not o3  for b?
Violence [?\]: what if white plays R10 after black P6?
]))))
(;B[qp]
;W[rq]
;B[pq]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]
;W[sp]
;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[pn]
;W[qm]
;B[pm]
;W[rm]
;B[ql]
;W[sm]
;B[rl]
;W[po]
;B[oo]
;AB[pl][lq][nq][mr]C[Assu [2d\]: ko
mandark [2d\]: dead
Plunder [4k\]: w dead
sume [?\]: ko
Fabiano [-\]: ko?
jackblack1 [7k\]: W dead
RaulSeixas [-\]: r2
Plunder [4k\]: dead for shure
Assu [2d\]: w is dead
coudi20: dead
RaulSeixas [-\]: oj
mandark [2d\]: stone dead
Fabiano [-\]: its ko
lupis [4k\]: dead
TearAway [2k?\]: i cant see anything^^
poussiere [3k\]: b dead
bkibi: seki? :D
jackblack1 [7k\]: LOL
wossname [1k\]: b is finished, yeah
RaulSeixas [-\]: ko
Fabiano [-\]: ko
Sjoerd [1k\]: dead
jackblack1 [7k\]: dead
Assu [2d\]: w is dead
sume [?\]: ko
derPlumps [6k\]: is this the first or second lecture of today?
Violence [?\]: first.
derPlumps [6k\]: puh :-)
derPlumps [6k\]: i am always too late
coudi20: sure ;-)
sai2299 [-\]: whens the next lecture
Violence [?\]: Right after this homework.
]
;W[]C[sai2299 [-\]: ok thanks
sume [?\]: dea
coudi20: yes
Titan [6k\]: yes
Violence [?\]: ready
M3gus [5k\]: yes
jackblack1 [7k\]: yes :)
XY0908 [-\]: ;-)
Assu [2d\]: we are waiting to tell the answer :)
Fabiano [-\]: i bet ko
sume [?\]: ko
RaulSeixas [-\]: ko
Assu [2d\]: dead as a stone
icebucket [8k?\]: T3
icebucket [8k?\]: dead
Plunder [4k\]: dead still
Sjoerd [1k\]: dead
coudi20: dead
sume [?\]: ko
jackblack1 [7k\]: dead
Fabiano [-\]: ko yet
sume [?\]: ko
]
(;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[rs]
;W[qq]C[coudi20: no ko
]
;B[pp]
;W[pr]
;B[ps]C[Violence [?\]: hard ko
Violence [?\]: oh... no ko...
sume [?\]: ko
])
(;B[rr]C[kkamil [4k\]: death
]
;W[qq]
;B[pp]
;W[qr])
(;B[sr]C[icebucket [8k?\]: T3
Violence [?\]: oh, wait, yeah it is
kkamil [4k\]: s1
Kamisama [5k\]: is black S2 (as first move) not the killing move? 
Assu [2d\]: o/
Violence [?\]: No
Assu [2d\]: first moce s1?
derPlumps [6k\]: why so difficult problems?
jackblack1 [7k\]: poor W :)
Assu [2d\]: **move
agui [4k\]: No, very  Nice !!
coudi20: can B play s1 first?
Assu [2d\]: first move s1???
bkibi: -.-;
Assu [2d\]: -__-*
Violence [?\]: Got it@
Assu [2d\]: yes
jackblack1 [7k\]: yep :)
pugh [7k\]: yes
]
(;W[sq]C[RaulSeixas [-\]: hm
RaulSeixas [-\]: ko
TearAway [2k?\]: t6
Plunder [4k\]: S1
icebucket [8k?\]: T5
Sjoerd [1k\]: s1
coudi20: s1 
Plunder [4k\]: s1 
]
(;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[rs]C[Plunder [4k\]: S1 =)
]
;W[ss]
;B[qs]
;W[qq]C[derPlumps [6k\]: dont see the ko
])
(;B[rr]
;W[qq]C[Violence [?\]: white lives
]
;B[pp]
;W[qr]C[icebucket [8k?\]: T5
])
(;B[rs]TR[mr]C[RaulSeixas [-\]: if s1 r2
Violence [?\]: Tesuji!
Violence [?\]: if r2, q2
Violence [?\]: So N2 has a use
]
(;W[qr]C[yfh2 [3k?\]: !!
]
;B[qs]
;W[pr]
;B[ps]C[Violence [?\]: ih
]
;W[or]C[Violence [?\]: oh
RaulSeixas [-\]: can w r3?
]
;B[os]C[Violence [?\]: XD I'm wrong
Violence [?\]: wow
])
(;W[qs]
;B[qr]C[godiablo [5k\]: no ko
Kamisama [5k\]: no ko?
]
;W[rr]
;B[ps]C[derPlumps [6k\]: ko
derPlumps [6k\]: r3
Violence [?\]: not ko
])
(;W[pr]
;B[qq]
;W[qr]C[godiablo [5k\]: r3 
]
;B[rr])
(;W[qq]
;B[pp]C[godiablo [5k\]: same as r2 
RaulSeixas [-\]: r1?
Violence [?\]: wow...
RaulSeixas [-\]: oh
RaulSeixas [-\]: no
Violence [?\]: S1 tesuji...
]
;W[qr]
;B[qs])))
(;W[rr]
;B[sq]C[RaulSeixas [-\]: dead
]
;W[ss]
;B[sq]
;W[sr]
;B[pr]C[jackblack1 [7k\]: DEAD :)
])
(;W[qq]
;B[pp]
(;W[sq]C[godiablo [5k\]: no?
]
(;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[rs]
;W[ss]C[godiablo [5k\]: ko
])
(;B[rs]C[Kamisama [5k\]: hehehe =)
Violence [?\]: Kwah, so awesome
Assu [2d\]: what about s1 as first move
]))
(;W[rr]
;B[sq]
;W[ss]
;B[sq]
;W[pr]C[godiablo [5k\]: alive:(
agui [4k\]: difficult to see :)
]
(;B[so]
;W[qs])
(;B[qs]C[Violence [?\]: run to the N2 stone
]))))
(;B[rs]
(;W[qr]C[derPlumps [6k\]: no
]
;B[qs]C[Assu [2d\]: this was my guess :)
]
;W[pr]
;B[ps]
;W[or]
;B[os])
(;W[qq]
;B[pp]
;W[pr]C[derPlumps [6k\]: yes
Violence [?\]: ko
Assu [2d\]: yeah.. read that too :P
Assu [2d\]: ko
Sjoerd [1k\]: wont work
Violence [?\]: this ends up as ko
]
(;B[sr]
;W[rr])
(;B[ps]C[Assu [2d\]: q1
]
(;W[os]
;B[qr]C[icebucket [8k?\]: no
]
;W[qs]C[Assu [2d\]: yes
]
;B[rr]
;W[sq]
;B[or]C[Violence [?\]: ahhh
Assu [2d\]: haa, I was correct ;)
])
(;W[or]C[Pooyou [3k\]: and what if S2, S3, R2?
Assu [2d\]: good point
Pooyou [3k\]: ok
]
(;B[qr]
;W[rr])
(;B[os]C[Violence [?\]: ahh
]
;W[ns]
(;B[qs]
;W[nr]
;B[qr]
;W[rr]C[Violence [?\]: nope
])
(;B[qr]
;W[rr]C[icebucket [8k?\]: \\O/  !
]))
(;B[sr]
;W[rr])))
(;B[qr]
;W[rr]C[Assu [2d\]: works
]))))
(;B[sd]
;W[rc]C[Assu [2d\]: we want to the next corner :P
]
;B[rd]
;W[qc]
;B[re]
;W[qd]
;B[sf]
;W[qe]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[qg]
;W[qf]
;B[ob]
;W[pb]
;AB[mb][oc][oe][pf][pg]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework.  Black to play
Assu [2d\]: thx !!! :)
derPlumps [6k\]: black to kill?
derPlumps [6k\]: white to live?
AishaSama [9k\]: black to kill...
derPlumps [6k\]: bye
jackblack1 [7k\]: Thank you!
Violence [?\]: Thanks
pugh [7k\]: thank you mingjui
murky: thanks
derPlumps [6k\]: thanks a lot
babakhan [6k?\]: Thank you!
bkibi: thanks
seidelin [2k\]: thanks
gerg [19k\]: thanks
woos [5k\]: thanks
Mihow [11k\]: moree
svante [1k\]: thanks
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu Laoshi
Shinichi56 [2k\]: thx
Winters [4k\]: thanks
guojuan [5p\]: I am ready :)
foxxdan [22k?\]: thx
hwausre [6k\]: thanks
Titan [6k\]: thanks
agui [4k\]: Thank you very much
Alenchon [8k?\]: thank you Teacher
Assu [2d\]: we love uu <3 !!!!
hansili [3k\]: thank you very much
kkamil [4k\]: thx
coudi20: thank you mingjiu and scribe
lupis [4k\]: thx for the lecture
pugh [7k\]: thanks Ing Found
Assu [2d\]: bye
AishaSama [9k\]: bye
agui [4k\]: bye
AishaSama [9k\]: =3
butterfork: thank you bye bye
MRei [1k\]: thanks
kkamil [4k\]: bye
MRei [1k\]: bye
]))
