(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] DT[2007-01-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[kiyosumi [2d\]: yes Repacse [3k\]: hello Grindel [9k\]: good mornig Providence [-\]: yes sume [?\]: yes ElsaS [?\]: Hi Scribe [-\]: Nihao Juju Laoshi Providence [-\]: it's great =) pugh [7k\]: yes grumpfl [6k\]: excellent Grindel [9k\]: yes it good wildseven [18k\]: yes egemen [-\]: yes clear murky: ok Grindel [9k\]: :) good to see you ... thanks to Ing mathieud [1d\]: hi Grindel [9k\]: a Wu game ?? Grindel [9k\]: honerable honinbo Scribe [-\]: Game between Wu Qingyuan (Go Seigen) and Karigane from May 1942 Scribe [-\]: Game sponsored by the Yomiuri Newspaper Company Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Japanese newspapers companies for their continued sponsorship of numerous tournaments in Japan ] ;B[qd] ;W[dc]C[Scribe [-\]: Fifth Game of the Jubango Scribe [-\]: Wu leads the series 3-1 ] ;B[cp] ;W[pq]C[Scribe [-\]: Wu is which color here ? ] ;B[od] ;W[eq]C[Scribe [-\]: Just like all jubango, these are no komi games Grindel [9k\]: wu is white i think ] ;B[qo] ;W[pl] (;B[qq]C[Scribe [-\]: Black r3 is now out of favor HNG1fan [6k\]: what room is this in i cant remember? stirb [15k?\]: Ing's Goe Internet Class HNG1fan [6k\]: thx stirb [15k?\]: nP ] ;W[qr] ;B[pp]C[Scribe [-\]: older style ] (;W[rq]C[Grindel [9k\]: white in abetter position though ?? Scribe [-\]: result is not bad for white. white can make a big corner Scribe [-\]: s3 is a key move in this joseki ] ;B[oq] ;W[qp] ;B[pr] ;W[qq] ;B[oo]C[Scribe [-\]: white's corner was considered to be inferior to black's outside Scribe [-\]: Wu is White ] ;W[kp] ;B[do] ;W[cf] (;B[iq]C[Scribe [-\]: Karigane starts a fight Scribe [-\]: Karigane has reputation as excellent fighter and deep reader ] (;W[fp] ;B[io] ;W[cr] (;B[cl]C[Scribe [-\]: white settles in the lower left as does black ] (;W[lm]C[Scribe [-\]: m7 is remarkable move that appears to connect two weak white groups and attack black from the outside with speed Scribe [-\]: just living for black is too small, white outside is too valuable ] (;B[om] ;W[ol] (;B[mm] (;W[ll] (;B[ml] ;W[mk]C[Grindel [9k\]: hello every one.... greetings sensi jujo ] ;B[mn] ;W[ln]C[Reiter [1k\]: m9 now no? ] (;B[lk] ;W[np] (;B[mp] ;W[op] ;B[po] ;W[nq] (;B[lo] ;W[ko]C[stupid [5k\]: hello ] ;B[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: m5 is a critical move ] ;W[no] ;B[mo] ;W[jq] ;B[nr] ;W[or] ;B[nn] ;W[oq]C[ljl [2k\]: did not black want to connet to the J stones? ] (;B[kn] ;W[jn] (;B[km] ;W[kl] ;B[jm] ;W[lj] ;B[im] ;W[kk]C[Scribe [-\]: White gains very nice outside ]) (;B[nk] ;W[mj] ;B[km] ;W[kl] ;B[jm] (;W[kk] ;B[im] ;W[lj]C[Scribe [-\]: better for black than variation big difference o9/n10 exchange ]) (;W[in] ;B[jo]C[Scribe [-\]: black must kill three white stones. white is more flexible..strong outside is good enough Scribe [-\]: three day game...14 hours each Grindel [9k\]: seal the moves Scribe [-\]: sealed moves at the end of each day ] ;W[kk]C[Scribe [-\]: end of first day here Scribe [-\]: game published over 30 installments in the newspaper icebucket [10k\]: :( q11 [1d?\]: newspaper many times a day? ] (;B[jk]C[Scribe [-\]: k9 is a very powerful move ] (;W[hn] ;B[kj] ;W[lj] ;B[jl] ;W[lk]C[Scribe [-\]: very painful for white ]) (;W[jl] ;B[im] ;W[hn] ;B[il] ;W[kj]C[coffeepot: k4 Jadeite [-\]: players payed ¥700 each per game desperado [2d\]: h5 seidelin [2k\]: G5 impulse [1k\]: j4 impulse [1k\]: oh yeah, k4 :) coffeepot: (You have showed us this game before...) icebucket [10k\]: he has lots of coffee. Maybe a transcribe from it. :/ ] (;B[ir]C[impulse [1k\]: I remember when you showed it ]) (;B[ho] ;W[gn]) (;B[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: only move ] ;W[ho] ;B[ip] ;W[kq] ;B[ir]C[Scribe [-\]: k4 is horrible shape, but it works Scribe [-\]: kills white three stones Scribe [-\]: now four stones sume [?\]: l2 instead of l3 ] ;W[ik]C[Scribe [-\]: game favors white ] ;B[gm] ;W[dl] (;B[ck]C[Spraypaint [3k\]: Yes? ] ;W[cm] ;B[dm] ;W[dn] ;B[em] ;W[fm]C[etl3 [?\]: wow ] (;B[fl] ;W[fn] (;B[el] ;W[hl]C[FishGo [8k\]: jesus: ]) (;B[gl] ;W[el])) (;B[fn] ;W[fl])) (;B[cm] ;W[hk] ;B[gl] ;W[gk] ;B[fn] ;W[jd]C[Scribe [-\]: jubango was suspended after this game...Wu won the game. Series score stood at 4-1 in Wu's favor Assu [2d\]: cool :) Reiter [1k\]: why suspended? pel [3k\]: a bit sad :( Assu [2d\]: if one get´s 4 losses he gets depromoted seidelin [2k\]: thanks sume [?\]: bye ilterendi [1k\]: thanks a lot!!! BlueOcean [2d\]: thank you YardBird [2k\]: thanks etl3 [?\]: thanks Creslin [5k\]: Thank you. Good bye saruman [-\]: thanks krynn [9k\]: Thank you very much! ruger [6k\]: thank you sume [?\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION Assu [2d\]: so old players might lose their face MagicMagor [5k\]: thx, bye Repacse [3k\]: thanks very much Providence [-\]: ty =) FishGo [8k\]: because according to the rules, if Karigane loses one more game he will lose one dan Reiter [1k\]: he got a rank down? pugh [7k\]: bye Jadeite [-\]: thanks Jujo :) seidelin [2k\]: this was great pel [3k\]: thank you nitram1 [1k\]: thx Grindel [9k\]: Thank you Sensi jalapeno [7k\]: thanks jujo Winters [4k\]: thanks q11 [1d?\]: thanks emot [3k?\]: thank you coffeepot: Thanks -bye bye Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Jujo FishGo [8k\]: so to avoid that the newspaper company stopped the jubango ])))) (;B[ho] ;W[im]) (;B[il])))) (;B[ir] ;W[in] ;B[ho] ;W[mj] ;B[kn] ;W[jm])) (;B[mq] ;W[lo] ;B[mo])) (;B[op] ;W[mj] ;B[lo] ;W[ko] ;B[kn] ;W[jn] ;B[km] ;W[kl] ;B[jm] ;W[mo]C[Scribe [-\]: white succeeds ])) (;B[mp] ;W[lk])) (;B[ln] ;W[kn] ;B[lo] ;W[ko])) (;W[ml]C[Scribe [-\]: black needs to breakthrough white's outside ] ;B[ln] ;W[kn] (;B[nl]C[Scribe [-\]: black plan ]) (;B[ll] ;W[km] ;B[nl] ;W[mk] ;B[nk]C[Scribe [-\]: again black breaks out ]))) (;B[nl] ;W[nm])) (;B[mp] ;W[kn])) (;W[ro])) (;B[kn] ;W[dl])) (;W[km] ;B[fp])) (;B[pj] ;W[hp] ;B[dq] ;W[ep]C[Scribe [-\]: black stones on lower right are not thick..they are weak ] ;B[cl] ;W[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: game looks easy for white hansb [1k?\]: Why is this the same game as on December 31? Scribe [-\]: comparing white three stones on left and top, to black three stones on top and right...white is better Scribe [-\]: white can develop more easily mathieud [1d\]: o8? Scribe [-\]: white four stones on bottom compared to black four stones on lower left...white is better Scribe [-\]: plus white has the lower right corner ])) (;W[oq] ;B[rq] ;W[mp]C[Scribe [-\]: black settled quickly ] ;B[pj])) (;B[no] ;W[mq] ;B[pj]C[Scribe [-\]: very common joseki Scarabee [-\]: hi Scribe [-\]: good for Black, white is a low on the bottom ]))