(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2006-08-06]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[ahiman [?\]: hello xDarigaaz [5k?\]: Hi Scribe [-\]: Nihao JuJo ! Scribe [-\]: Wu Qingyuan game Scribe [-\]: at the age of 14 Wu went to Japan Wook [-\]: Note: Wu Qingyuan is better known as Go Seigen here Scribe [-\]: Segoe sent Hashimoto to China to test Wu's skill Scribe [-\]: 1 September 1928 game Hashimoto vs Wu ] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Scribe [-\]: Wu is 14 years old at this time and playing Black ] (;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Scribe [-\]: Hashomoto is 4 dan at this time....at that time ranks were granted less often, 4dan was very strong Scribe [-\]: r14 better than q14 here ] ;W[ce]CR[ce] ;B[cp]CR[cp]C[Scribe [-\]: Hashimoto is Hashimoto Utaro, in 1928 he was about 21 years old ] ;W[op]CR[op] ;B[eq]CR[eq] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[dc]CR[dc]C[Scribe [-\]: big move ] ;W[cj]CR[cj] ;B[ed]CR[ed]C[Scribe [-\]: e16 very solid, dont give White a chance to create problems Scribe [-\]: reminiscent of Honinbo Shusaku Scribe [-\]: kosumi has become much more rare since the addition of komi ] (;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [-\]: k17 is proper Scribe [-\]: j17 is a bit of an overplay ] ;B[qk]CR[qk] ;W[ng]CR[ng]C[Scribe [-\]: White must push harder for there is no komi in this game Scribe [-\]: Hashimoto is known for innovative play on the board Scribe [-\]: this continued even into his 50's ] (;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: Black plays to thwart White's plan ] ;W[pg]CR[pg] (;B[nf]CR[nf]C[Scribe [-\]: Black resists White's plan ] (;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[of]CR[of] ;B[oe]CR[oe] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[od]CR[od] (;W[qe]CR[qe] (;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[rf]CR[rf] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[qh]CR[qh] (;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[ob]CR[ob]C[Scribe [-\]: White gets whole corner ] ;B[md]CR[md] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[qc]CR[qc] (;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: connect here, sacrifice one more stone to get more forcing moves ] (;B[mg]CR[mg]C[Scribe [-\]: connect is also probe see White's response Scribe [-\]: White has 13/14 points on top, when it was Black corner it was about 10 points Scribe [-\]: exchange cost Black 25 points but the Black outside is now much stronger and White top moyo gone...j17 is now weak as well Scribe [-\]: White four stones on outside are weak as well Scribe [-\]: Exchange is good for Black ] ;W[mh]CR[mh] ;B[lh]CR[lh] (;W[mf]CR[mf]C[Scribe [-\]: Double hane possible due to White weakness...continuation si very difficult for White ] ;B[lg]CR[lg] ;W[me]CR[me] ;B[nd]CR[nd] ;W[le]CR[le] ;B[ld]CR[ld] ;W[ke]CR[ke] ;B[kd]CR[kd] ;W[je]CR[je] ;B[mi]CR[mi]) (;W[ni]CR[ni] ;B[lg]CR[lg]C[Scribe [-\]: Gmae Scribe [-\]: Game ] ;W[li]CR[li] ;B[ki]CR[ki] ;W[lj]CR[lj] ;B[kj]CR[kj]C[Scribe [-\]: Why does Black continue to push from the top direction ? Grimley [6k\]: because white's wall will be useless so it's a good exchange? Yippie [6k\]: to attack c15 c10 ? jantiff [-\]: to control the center Zark [2k\]: prepare to attack j17 kirisute [?\]: to keep pressure on white? MUSlC [-\]: Weaken J 17 xDarigaaz [5k?\]: to attack J17? kirkbobic [9k\]: he want to invade between C12? Scribe [-\]: White does not gain much from this pushing as Black has both r12 and r9 already in position birne [1k\]: black seems to have weakness at S11? ] (;W[lk]CR[lk] ;B[kk]CR[kk]) (;W[kk]CR[kk] ;B[lk]CR[lk] ;W[pi]CR[pi] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[jk]CR[jk] ;B[mk]CR[mk] ;W[nk]CR[nk] ;B[nl]CR[nl] ;W[mj]CR[mj] ;B[ij]CR[ij] ;W[lm]CR[lm] ;B[ok]CR[ok] ;W[nj]CR[nj] ;B[ml]CR[ml]C[Scribe [-\]: game Scribe [-\]: Game is a little favorable for Black, but still a long way to go Scribe [-\]: at 14 Wu is powerful and confident playing against Hashimoto lepinskie [5k?\]: thank you ) Wook [-\]: Thank you jujo! kilroy [5k\]: thank you for having the lesson xDarigaaz [5k?\]: thank you very much Zark [2k\]: thank you au2 [4k\]: Thank you for the lecture swilks [6k\]: thank you. SakiKaki3D [2k?\]: thx Soul [12k\]: thank you Ahndraniel [13k\]: thanks saodiseng [2d\]: Thank you! MUSlC [-\]: Thank you wholeboard [7k\]: thank you! Scribe [-\]: Xiexie 江铸久 au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION ruger [12k?\]: thank you! monchacha [11k\]: thank you LemoNT [-\]: xiexie jujo laoshi Majeh [18k\]: thx au2 [4k\]: Thanks to Scribe au2 [4k\]: bye bye hansb [5k?\]: thank you wizzydude [21k\]: thank you! Cutrone [14k\]: thank you Scribe [-\]: Jujo does not provide private lessons at this time, please contact Mingjiu for lessons sume [3k?\]: thanks you Inkognito [2k?\]: thank you ]))) (;B[se]CR[se])) (;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[mg]CR[mg])) (;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: White must answer after q18 ] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[qb]CR[qb])) (;B[re]CR[re] ;W[pc]CR[pc]C[Scribe [-\]: Black has too many cutting points in this variation ])) (;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[md]CR[md] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[lf]CR[lf] (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[rh]CR[rh]) (;W[qg]CR[qg] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[mc]CR[mc] ;B[ld]CR[ld] ;W[lc]CR[lc] ;B[kd]CR[kd] ;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: not bad for White ] ;B[qn]CR[qn] (;W[rf]CR[rf] ;B[re]CR[re] ;W[rg]CR[rg] (;B[mg]CR[mg] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[pb]CR[pb]C[Scribe [-\]: the corner dies ] ;B[ra]CR[ra] ;W[sd]CR[sd]C[Scribe [-\]: This is Black's plan... but the result is not bad for White ]) (;B[pb]CR[pb])) (;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: creates more ko threats ] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Scribe [-\]: Black must answer so r13 is sente ])))) (;W[mf]CR[mf]C[Scribe [-\]: push at p14 would be slow Scribe [-\]: Perfect for White if Black just connects at p14 ] (;B[og]CR[og] ;W[oh]CR[oh] ;B[of]CR[of] (;W[ph]CR[ph]C[Scribe [-\]: Black has created many cutting points in White's shape ] ;B[me]CR[me]) (;W[mg]CR[mg] ;B[ph]CR[ph])) (;B[of]CR[of] ;W[og]CR[og])) (;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[qh]CR[qh] ;B[mg]CR[mg] ;W[nh]CR[nh] ;B[mf]CR[mf] ;W[qm]CR[qm] (;B[ld]CR[ld]) (;B[kc]CR[kc] ;W[ie]CR[ie] ;B[ke]CR[ke] ;W[ok]CR[ok] ;B[ig]CR[ig] ;W[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [-\]: very big corner on right top ] ;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: this fight is better for Black ])) (;W[of]CR[of] ;B[oe]CR[oe] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[pe]CR[pe] (;B[qf]CR[qf]) (;B[od]CR[od] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[nc]CR[nc]))) (;B[qg]CR[qg] ;W[qh]CR[qh] ;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[ph]CR[ph] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[pc]CR[pc] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: White gets an attack on both right side Black groups ] ;W[pl]CR[pl]C[Scribe [-\]: big advantage to White on the top side ]) (;B[of]CR[of] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[nf]CR[nf] ;W[mf]CR[mf] ;B[mg]CR[mg] ;W[lf]CR[lf] ;B[mh]CR[mh]C[Scribe [-\]: slow. White becomes stronger ] ;W[qf]CR[qf])) (;B[ph]CR[ph] ;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: White's plan ] ;B[kd]CR[kd]C[Scribe [-\]: Black invasion at L16 becomes difficult ] ;W[kc]CR[kc])) (;W[jc]CR[jc] (;B[qk]CR[qk] ;W[gc]CR[gc]) (;B[hc]CR[hc] ;W[qh]CR[qh]))) (;B[qf]CR[qf] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[od]CR[od] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[rc]CR[rc]C[Scribe [-\]: per Wu is this a better variation for White ] ;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Scribe [-\]: for Black !! ]))