(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-07-30]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Wook [-\]: Hello mingjiu ):
Javaness [4k\]: Hi mingjiu
Idn [5k\]: Hello
Warfreak2 [16k\]: woo free stuff
humbaba [10k\]: hello 
kilroy [5k\]: good morning
MrCakes [22k\]: Hello1 Mingjiu, thans for lesson...
whendrik [11k\]: Greetings
Th3m3 [18k\]: good day ^^
guojuan [5p\]: hi
suducodu [?\]: Hello
Srdr [13k\]: yep
Tartarichi [-\]: hi
Warfreak2 [16k\]: i can hear you
kilroy [5k\]: yes
suducodu [?\]: Hi
whendrik [11k\]: yes i can hear you
guojuan [5p\]: yes we hear you
ouigkmy [14k\]: sound ok
PrzemekS [?\]: Hi 
choubi [11k\]: how can a shimari be overconcentrated oO
hakky [30k?\]: haha
hansb [5k?\]: yes
ljl [13k?\]: yes!
letsdance: what homework?
wizzydude [-\]: yes
kkkekai [?\]: yeah
grossebaf [4k?\]: homework ?  ♫...( `.  ` )
]
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[guojuan [5p\]: no audio 
guojuan [5p\]: ok now :)
]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Javaness [4k\]: oh
rayen [6k\]: is it possible in this case for w to play C7  when b F3 
Scribe [-\]: how to play if white omits f17 ?
]
(;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ck]CR[ck]LB[ch:A][cn:B]C[Ordiac [8k\]: hmm better
Scribe [-\]: now hard for whtie to play c12
Scribe [-\]: because whtie stone is at c6 in place of c7
hansb [5k?\]: will white attack F3 now?
])
(;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[cj]CR[cj])
(;W[df]CR[df]C[Ordiac [8k\]: hehe
Scribe [-\]: after black d14 or black c13, joseki is white f`17
Scribe [-\]: what is white omits f17
hansb [5k?\]: go on please
Templar [17k?\]: what should black do after Wd14?
Blackstorm [5k?\]: i don t hear anything ??
Scribe [-\]: white must help the cutting stone, else why play it at all
Ordiac [8k\]: here d13  ment
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[Ordiac [8k\]: tenuki now?
Dreggo [4k\]: make sure to have sound turned on
hansb [5k?\]: C8?
Javaness [4k\]: f4
]
(;W[cg]CR[cg]C[Scribe [-\]: black has more benefit
]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[kinamoh [12k\]: close and restart game -> sound ok again
Dreggo [4k\]: black
BobSmith [13k\]: black
Zark [2k\]: black
Javaness [4k\]: I like black 
Ordiac [8k\]: id like b
])
(;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[eo]CR[eo])
(;W[eo]CR[eo]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Scribe [-\]: white needs to move out at e5 first
Scribe [-\]: now white can tenuki lower left
]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [-\]: its a game
])
(;B[cg]CR[cg]LB[ee:B][ef:A]C[Talaer [11k?\]: E14
sume [4k?\]: e14
rayen [6k\]: D7 
Ordiac [8k\]: why not atari ?at d13
whendrik [11k\]: O3
Scribe [-\]: white must save d14
sume [4k?\]: e14
Ordiac [8k\]: w gets free ladder breaker around o3 , i would guess
Scribe [-\]: two ways to have d14: e14 and e15
SoulShard [-\]: A
Warfreak2 [16k\]: e14, so d13 is not a forcing move
saodiseng [1d\]: A
rayen [6k\]: A
agui [8k?\]: B
Blackstorm [5k?\]: b
sume [4k?\]: a
tablescrap [8k?\]: b
sk00 [14k?\]: a
Vanya [10k?\]: B
BobSmith [13k\]: a
clemi [20k?\]: B
Kamisama [16k\]: B 
Scribe [-\]: e15 is very slow
Ordiac [8k\]: the aji is scary
]
(;W[dm]CR[dm]C[sume [4k?\]: helps white
]
;B[ef]CR[ef]C[Scribe [-\]: white does not have time to play d7
Ordiac [8k\]: yes ladder
Scribe [-\]: ladder works for black
rayen [6k\]: maybe not :p
])
(;W[ef]CR[ef]C[Scribe [-\]: e14 is the only choice
sume [4k?\]: who is black
Scribe [-\]: white e15 gives black the forcing move of d13 which allows black to make perfect shape on the left
]
(;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[fd]CR[fd])
(;B[gd]CR[gd])
(;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Vanya [10k?\]: no
llaume [?\]: C10 
]
(;W[ci]CR[ci])
(;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[dg]CR[dg]C[Ordiac [8k\]: i would think r10 is big
]))
(;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[cl]CR[cl]))
(;W[ee]CR[ee]C[rayen [6k\]: I like E14 
sume [4k?\]: a
Kamisama [16k\]: nice shape
Rivularia [?\]: i cannot understand anything
seku [8k\]: a
Rivularia [?\]: :(
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
(;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: now black has nice shape on the left
sume [4k?\]: who is white
Scribe [-\]: perfect shape for black on the left
llaume [?\]: yes
Ordiac [8k\]: looks alive
clemi [20k?\]: ok
Idn [5k\]: why not D9 for black ?
Vanya [10k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: d9 give white the sente move of e7 and there is bad aji at c8
Ordiac [8k\]: thx
Blackstorm [5k?\]: do i have to :P
])
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[Vanya [10k?\]: weak plount C8 
Ordiac [8k\]: maybe its thin?
]
(;W[em]CR[em])
(;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Idn [5k\]: ok
])))
(;W[dg]CR[dg]C[rayen [6k\]: helping black
]
(;B[ch]CR[ch])
(;B[dh]CR[dh]
(;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[bh]CR[bh]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[di]CR[di]C[Scribe [-\]: dont help your opponent, white should not play at d13
Scribe [-\]: again the ladder
]
(;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[ef]CR[ef])
(;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[ag]CR[ag]C[Scribe [-\]: black kills white
]))
(;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[ci]CR[ci]))))))
(;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dm]CR[dm]))
(;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Scribe [-\]: White can continue in this manner to harm the black left side group
]
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[Scribe [-\]: Good move for white at c7
]
(;W[dj]CR[dj])
(;W[bj]CR[bj]))
(;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Scribe [-\]: in all these variations white wants a stone one space from the black extension on the left
]))
(;B[df]CR[df]C[kilroy [5k\]: i have audio
Srdr [13k\]: i have audio
Warfreak2 [16k\]: i have audio
rayen [6k\]: I hear
Javaness [4k\]: me too
Wook [-\]: yes I can hear you fine
Ordiac [8k\]: hi
Tartarichi [-\]: i have
Th3m3 [18k\]: i can hear ya
]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[cl]CR[cl]LB[ch:A]))
(;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: how strong are the players ?
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[co]CR[co]C[Ordiac [8k\]: d9 is soo overplayish ?
rayen [6k\]: :P
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [-\]: 5 dan players
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[qn]CR[qn]C[rayen [6k\]: im sure going to master basic if they make mistakes like this :ÅP
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[letsdance: i lost it :(
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Hu [12k\]: Please don't disrupt the lesson, hakky.
hakky [30k?\]: haha
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Ordiac [8k\]: h3 ?
rayen [6k\]: hmz I dont like black 
Scribe [-\]: its a game
Scribe [-\]: game is good for black at this point
rayen [6k\]: b doesnt have so good shape
choubi [11k\]: such a symetrical game almost 
]
(;W[rp]TR[ec][nc][pc][qc][rc][cd][od][pd][qd][rd][qe][re][pf][ch][pj][dk][qn][bo][co][bp][cp][dp][ep][pp][rp][bq][cq][dq][fq][nq]C[Scribe [-\]: now equal number of stones
llaume [?\]: black
Blackstorm [5k?\]: black
BobSmith [13k\]: white
Scribe [-\]: white is better
rayen [6k\]: isnt Q10  a little to far away ?
Vanya [10k?\]: black
agui [8k?\]: white
waykay [7k\]: even
Idn [5k\]: white
Dreggo [4k\]: i prefer black
Blackstorm [5k?\]: right side still open of white
Blackstorm [5k?\]: left 
Blackstorm [5k?\]: :P
alenmilk [12k\]: is q14 necessary?
Vanya [10k?\]: black has E6 
Blackstorm [5k?\]: b
rayen [6k\]: left is bigger
BobSmith [13k\]: black
Th3m3 [18k\]: b
hansb [5k?\]: white is bigger
agui [8k?\]: left
Azaela [17k\]: black
saodiseng [1d\]: black
Scribe [-\]: black has the right, while white has the left
Blackstorm [5k?\]: white has too much aji
kkkekai [?\]: b
tablescrap [8k?\]: black q10 is strange, but w made it good for b
Scribe [-\]: right side is bigger
rayen [6k\]: I dont like b shape
agui [8k?\]: but weaker
saodiseng [1d\]: same
Th3m3 [18k\]: even
Warfreak2 [16k\]: why not compare opposite corners
BobSmith [13k\]: black
Ordiac [8k\]: top right bigger
Blackstorm [5k?\]: white still have aji left in his froup
Scribe [-\]: why not compare top right with bottom left corners ?
Warfreak2 [16k\]: yes
agui [8k?\]: is safe
Blackstorm [5k?\]: big
waykay [7k\]: bottom right is bigger
agui [8k?\]: white
BobSmith [13k\]: white
Blackstorm [5k?\]: i like white better
Dreggo [4k\]: still like black
Warfreak2 [16k\]: SE prefers white, so i'm going to say black
waykay [7k\]: I think its very close.
au2 [4k\]: b's right side more open - but b has sente
Blackstorm [5k?\]: black
whendrik [11k\]: white has komi
saodiseng [1d\]: black because it has the next move
Blackstorm [5k?\]: but what about  5 c stone :P
Blackstorm [5k?\]: 6 c
waykay [7k\]: Yes
Vanya [10k?\]: yes
agui [8k?\]: yes
kkkekai [?\]: yeah
Scribe [-\]: white's corners are bigger than black's corners
Bagowei [12k\]: yes
Blackstorm [5k?\]: yeah
alenmilk [12k\]: i think q14 was unnecessary move
Blackstorm [5k?\]: but still 6 c there
alenmilk [12k\]: white maybe more efficient
Ordiac [8k\]: yep i think i can understand
Scribe [-\]: fairly even now
Dreggo [4k\]: black already had q14
Scribe [-\]: white has a simpler game
RoniinoR [28k?\]: 'ישא איקאד צקשמ?
RoniinoR [28k?\]: waht thets means
suducodu [?\]: W  has a bigger lower corner
]
(;B[me]CR[me]C[choubi [11k\]: does that reduce the aji really completely ?
letsdance: b can expand easier
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[pel [8k?\]: white
rayen [6k\]: b spend 2 moves .. and didnt fix weakness
Javaness [4k\]: almost a mirror
letsdance: capping?
hakky [30k?\]: k-10 would be big !
Javaness [4k\]: shimari is better with L17
waykay [7k\]: n15 seems overconcentrated anyways
letsdance: ok :)
]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[rayen [6k\]: w
BobSmith [13k\]: white
Blackstorm [5k?\]: black
saodiseng [1d\]: black
hansb [5k?\]: black
waykay [7k\]: black
kkkekai [?\]: b
PrzemekS [?\]: B
Warfreak2 [16k\]: black
agui [8k?\]: white can invade
Idn [5k\]: white
rayen [6k\]: b didnt fix weakness
myv [25k?\]: w
Th3m3 [18k\]: im going b too :D
au2 [4k\]: does r8 live or die?
tablescrap [8k?\]: b controls the game
Zark [2k\]: black, white overplay
Ordiac [8k\]: w has aji
hakky [30k?\]: lol caramel color i think
Vanya [10k?\]: black is better after invasion
Scribe [-\]: good for white
rayen [6k\]: 2 ways .. connect or run out :P
Vanya [10k?\]: Q7 
Scribe [-\]: no way for black to make big moyo now
nitram1 [7k\]: q8
]
(;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[rn]CR[rn]C[Scribe [-\]: black may want m17 later.  n15 followed by n17 prevents m17 possibility
])
(;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[ri]CR[ri])
(;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: r 5 ?
Warfreak2 [16k\]: ...
waykay [7k\]: ahh
]
(;B[ok]CR[ok]
(;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rm]CR[rm]C[suducodu [?\]: yes
hakky [30k?\]: omgg because he is BLACK ?
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[rayen [6k\]: ouch
Blackstorm [5k?\]: mmhhh
waykay [7k\]: Will w still invade at r8 if black omits n15?
choubi [11k\]: very light
Blackstorm [5k?\]: what if black why 7 s ?
]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[rj]CR[rj]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: ah 
]
;B[rh]CR[rh]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: nothing
]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[ol]CR[ol]C[Ordiac [8k\]: hmm
]
;B[nl]CR[nl]
;W[om]CR[om]C[Scribe [-\]: a lot of cutting points in black
]
;B[nm]CR[nm]C[Vanya [10k?\]: severe
]
;W[nn]CR[nn]C[rayen [6k\]: :p
Scribe [-\]: black has problems
])
(;W[ol]CR[ol]
;B[nl]CR[nl]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[ri]CR[ri]C[Scribe [-\]: hard for black to kill white in both these variations
]))
(;B[pm]CR[pm]C[hakky [30k?\]: racist
choubi [11k\]: no :(
Warfreak2 [16k\]: T1
Warfreak2 [16k\]: corner invasion
]
;W[qj]CR[qj])))
(;B[lc]CR[lc]C[Scribe [-\]: n15 and n17 are bad exchange for black
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[ld]CR[ld])
(;B[on]CR[on]C[Scribe [-\]: better way for black to play....skip the n15 move
waykay [7k\]: Will w still invade?
]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[choubi [11k\]: ah !
]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[rl]CR[rl]C[Scribe [-\]: black will get a big wall
]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[so]CR[so]C[Scribe [-\]: now m17 comes into play
]
(;B[lc]CR[lc]C[waykay [7k\]: ahh, very nice
])
(;B[me]CR[me]
;W[mc]CR[mc])))
(;W[dn]CR[dn]))
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[rayen [6k\]: to far away in my opinion
Blackstorm [5k?\]: would be r 11 better ?
Scribe [-\]: q10 is not a pincer
Scribe [-\]: proper pincer
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: s 4
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Warfreak2 [16k\]: r9
]
;B[pf]CR[pf])))
(;B[br]CR[br]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework !
]
;W[ar]CR[ar]C[letsdance: i want homework
choubi [11k\]: ♪ tito
Th3m3 [18k\]: offcourse :3
]
;B[cr]CR[cr]C[letsdance: :)
]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[bs]CR[bs]C[llaume [?\]: i didn't find the answer :'(
]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[butterdish: I forgot
RoniinoR [28k?\]: what his do?
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[vuya [20k\]: homework for god safe why did you say that
RoniinoR [28k?\]: ?
llaume [?\]: shame on you
Javaness [4k\]: silly butterdish :(
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[eq]CR[eq]C[letsdance: hehe :)
]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[ds]CR[ds]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[RoniinoR [28k?\]: whay b dont do D1 ?
]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[gp]CR[gp]C[choubi [11k\]: he's setting up a problem
]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[waykay [7k\]: (he's just seeting up a problem, its not a joseki)
]
;W[hp]CR[hp]C[letsdance: ohh :)
]
;AW[ip][iq][ir][kr][js]AB[is]LB[fr:C][gr:B][gs:A][hs:D]C[BobSmith [13k\]: lol
letsdance: XDD
hakky [30k?\]: 0_0
choubi [11k\]: W to kill ?
Dreggo [4k\]: f2
ljl [13k?\]: F2 for white to kill
turkizm [5k\]: f2?
hansb [5k?\]: white can kill
RoniinoR [28k?\]: F2 
choubi [11k\]: I think W can kill
hansb [5k?\]: G1
letsdance: W can kill :)
hakky [30k?\]: white is alive 
rayen [6k\]: w kill b
RoniinoR [28k?\]: he can kill C2 
ljl [13k?\]: white to kill
Blackstorm [5k?\]: ko
choubi [11k\]: *reading*
hansb [5k?\]: white kills
BobSmith [13k\]: f2
TenukiGirl [?\]: white kill 
BobSmith [13k\]: white kill
hakky [30k?\]: like i said !
Kamisama [16k\]: white can kill 
hakky [30k?\]: muriii
RoniinoR [28k?\]: A3 A1 C1
weee [11k\]: white can'tkill b
choubi [11k\]: ?
humbaba [10k\]: g1 ?
letsdance: f2
raneup444 [23k\]: oheo avryone
kilroy [5k\]: white can kill
BobSmith [13k\]: f2
raneup444 [23k\]: evryone**
RetroGen [16k\]: B alive
RoniinoR [28k?\]: A3 A1 C1 
ArCosH [5k\]: w can kill but its b's turn
Warfreak2 [16k\]: i think b is alive
Kamisama [16k\]: F2 E1 F3 C1 H1 
Ordiac [8k\]: f1
RoniinoR [28k?\]: G1 F1 
Tartarichi [-\]: F2 E1 G1 
Blackstorm [5k?\]: i think mingjiu is laughing about our answers :P
blitzme [6k\]: black dead!!!!
weee [11k\]: only can kill some park of b
Zark [2k\]: white kill
blitzme [6k\]: g1
nitram1 [7k\]: left side of b stays alive
Vanya [10k?\]: seems w kills after G1 
Blackstorm [5k?\]: tengen !!!!
Zark [2k\]: f1
waykay [7k\]: g1 lives
letsdance: XDD
RoniinoR [28k?\]: W can kill B2 group
RetroGen [16k\]: B alive!
MBarbr [23k\]: F2 E1 F1 F3 H1?
hakky [30k?\]: can somebody explain j1 ? or is it to sketch the scene ?
Tartarichi [-\]: ^^
choubi [11k\]: F2 to kill I believe
RoniinoR [28k?\]: A3 A1 C1 
hansb [5k?\]: G1 kills
letsdance: f2 
BobSmith [13k\]: f2
Blackstorm [5k?\]: t1 ? :P
Blackstorm [5k?\]: ko
RoniinoR [28k?\]: F2 
blitzme [6k\]: ko
Dreggo [4k\]: ko
RetroGen [16k\]: No
letsdance: yes
BobSmith [13k\]: yes
kilroy [5k\]: yes
RoniinoR [28k?\]: H1 
hansb [5k?\]: yes
hakky [30k?\]: no
PrzemekS [?\]: yes
Blackstorm [5k?\]: ko
nitram1 [7k\]: no
Kamisama [16k\]: white kills black (F2 E1 F3 C1 H1 )  ?
clemi [20k?\]: i would say no
Ringelpiez [9k\]: yes
choubi [11k\]: yes
CBlue [9k\]: lol
letsdance: lol
kkkekai [?\]: no
RoniinoR [28k?\]: yes
llaume [?\]: all answers :/
humbaba [10k\]: yes, g1
rayen [6k\]: hmm actually no
rayen [6k\]: only part of b
Th3m3 [18k\]: yeah
hakky [30k?\]: if white kills black i will kill myself
Blackstorm [5k?\]: no or yes this is the question :P
RoniinoR [28k?\]: H1 F1 
RoniinoR [28k?\]: A3 A1 C1 
hakky [30k?\]: :P
raneup444 [23k\]: how ia the teacher?!?!?!
Knubbel [17k\]: part of b is enough..not enough eye room afterwards
raneup444 [23k\]: is*
hansb [5k?\]: G1
saodiseng [1d\]: g1
kilroy [5k\]: G1
BobSmith [13k\]: oops
letsdance: F2 
Blackstorm [5k?\]: 50: 50 chance :P
Kamisama [16k\]: G2
impulse [6k\]: f2
BobSmith [13k\]: no
Kamisama [16k\]: f2
Vanya [10k?\]: yes, G1
choubi [11k\]: f2
ljl [13k?\]: f2
RoniinoR [28k?\]: H1 
letsdance: f2
Blackstorm [5k?\]: tengen :P
RetroGen [16k\]: T1!
RoniinoR [28k?\]: A3 A3 A1 C1 
waykay [7k\]: A...
choubi [11k\]: haha
Kamisama [16k\]: C
letsdance: K10 
TenukiBoy [8k\]: C
humbaba [10k\]: A
kkkekai [?\]: c
Azaela [17k\]: C
agui [8k?\]: C
hakky [30k?\]: none
choubi [11k\]: C
RoniinoR [28k?\]: C
waykay [7k\]: heh
alenmilk [12k\]: A
letsdance: hee
Th3m3 [18k\]: c have to
alenmilk [12k\]: A
]
;B[]C[agui [8k?\]: yes
letsdance: :)
kkkekai [?\]: yeah
Blackstorm [5k?\]: i  have to
waykay [7k\]: B is silly
turkizm [5k\]: A
]
(;W[fr]CR[fr]C[letsdance: we do
Kiyomaro [13k?\]: yes
]
;B[es]CR[es]C[TenukiBoy [8k\]: yes, 8 points !! :)
choubi [11k\]: H1 ?
Vanya [10k?\]: G1 
BobSmith [13k\]: g1
RetroGen [16k\]: H1 
Tartarichi [-\]: G1 
waykay [7k\]: Yes
choubi [11k\]: yes
PrzemekS [?\]: yes
]
(;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[cs]CR[cs]C[agui [8k?\]: no
]
(;W[dr]CR[dr])
(;W[gr]CR[gr]C[letsdance: partially
RoniinoR [28k?\]: H1 
letsdance: :)
choubi [11k\]: ah !
waykay [7k\]: No.
BobSmith [13k\]: yes
choubi [11k\]: I see
]))
(;W[hs]CR[hs]C[wizzydude [-\]: g2 now
RoniinoR [28k?\]: G1 
]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
(;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[fq]CR[fq])
(;B[gr]CR[gr]))
(;W[gs]CR[gs]C[choubi [11k\]: nice
]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[fs]CR[fs]
;W[hs]CR[hs]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[RoniinoR [28k?\]: J1 
]))
(;W[gr]CR[gr]C[rayen [6k\]: g1 seems to work
Kamisama [16k\]: A  then :o
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[gs]CR[gs]
;B[fs]CR[fs])
(;W[hs]CR[hs]C[hakky [30k?\]: f-3 would mean dead
]
;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[es]CR[es]
;W[fq]CR[fq]C[RoniinoR [28k?\]: kill B2 group
]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[is]CR[is])
(;W[gs]CR[gs]C[Ordiac [8k\]: f1
choubi [11k\]: for black
]
(;B[fs]CR[fs]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[choubi [11k\]: F 2 ?
])
(;B[fr]CR[fr]C[choubi [11k\]: yep
]
;W[hs]CR[hs]
(;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fs]CR[fs]C[choubi [11k\]: F1
choubi [11k\]: ?
])
(;B[fs]CR[fs]
;W[is]CR[is]C[choubi [11k\]: ah 
choubi [11k\]: dead
hakky [30k?\]: sicky
]
;B[gr]CR[gr]C[murky: chicken leg
choubi [11k\]: I misread
Warfreak2 [16k\]: seki?
choubi [11k\]: yes
Blackstorm [5k?\]: no
rayen [6k\]: no seki
BobSmith [13k\]: no
waykay [7k\]: no seki :)
]))
(;B[gr]CR[gr]C[Th3m3 [18k\]: not an seki..
letsdance: Saki :P
saodiseng [1d\]: E1
hansb [5k?\]: E1
]
;W[es]CR[es]
;B[hs]CR[hs]
;W[fr]CR[fr])
(;B[es]CR[es]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: answer ko
]
(;W[hs]CR[hs]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[gr]CR[gr]C[saodiseng [1d\]: NO
waykay [7k\]: fake eye :)
saodiseng [1d\]: G2 for white
hansb [5k?\]: play G2
])
(;W[gr]CR[gr]C[choubi [11k\]: B tenuki
choubi [11k\]: at least dead in sente
choubi [11k\]: ;)
hakky [30k?\]: black lives dude
murky: cool
]))))
(;B[qa]CR[qa]
;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: New Homework
]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[letsdance: homework?
]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Warfreak2 [16k\]: doesn't matter if b lives, w still better full-board :P
]
;AW[pd][qf][rg][qh]C[letsdance: i thought its vocation :P
Scribe [-\]: White's turn
choubi [11k\]: can White kill ?
choubi [11k\]: is it ko ?
letsdance: T18 ?
choubi [11k\]: hah
RetroGen [16k\]: W can kill B
PrzemekS [?\]: ;>
Scribe [-\]: Can White kill
choubi [11k\]: *notes down his homework*
Scribe [-\]: If so, how many ways ?
whendrik [11k\]: Not yet
RetroGen [16k\]: Too many :D
llaume [?\]: 3
Blackstorm [5k?\]: 6 ?
Vanya [10k?\]: seems too many ways
Ordiac [8k\]: s15 is most solid ?
letsdance: 3-4
waykay [7k\]: Its homework :)
hakky [30k?\]: 3.5 ways
Blackstorm [5k?\]: i say more than 1 :P
letsdance: when will be the next lesson?
Warfreak2 [16k\]: 3.5 ways miai value
Blackstorm [5k?\]: thx
alenmilk [12k\]: THX
Wook [-\]: Thank you very much!
choubi [11k\]: thank you Mingjiu !
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
Th3m3 [18k\]: thank you
murky: thank u
letsdance: Thanks :)
agui [8k?\]: Thank you very much
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
toepk [20k?\]: thank you
Knubbel [17k\]: thank you
Dreggo [4k\]: thank you
butterdish: Thank you Mingjiu!
Azaela [17k\]: thanks
Janez [2k\]: thx
letsdance: thanks mingjiu
kkkekai [?\]: thx
TenukiBoy [8k\]: thanks !
Ordiac [8k\]: thx
Wook [-\]: and have a nice week :)
GOldenSkua [21k\]: thank you
saodiseng [1d\]: thank you
PrzemekS [?\]: Thankx a lot :)
au2 [4k\]: Thanks Scribe
letsdance: i love your book
Vanya [10k?\]: thank you very much for the lecture
Blackstorm [5k?\]: ah i have a question
zee [10k\]: Thanks
Warfreak2 [16k\]: thanks for the lecture
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation
hakky [30k?\]: next time go to my lecture mingju
rayen [6k\]: thx
Zark [2k\]: thank you
wizzydude [-\]: Thank you mingjiu an ings goe fundation!
letsdance: Correcting and punishing joseki mistakes :)
agui [8k?\]: See you
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu
grossebaf [4k?\]: thx mingjiu
Cutrone [14k\]: thank you 
kkkekai [?\]: see you by
murky: Bye
letsdance: bb
Azaela [17k\]: bye
Idn [5k\]: thank you !
au2 [4k\]: bye bye
Th3m3 [18k\]: bye
butterdish: bye bye
Vanya [10k?\]: see you
RetroGen [16k\]: Bye :)
Templar [17k?\]: bey
letsdance: bye
letsdance: :)
]))
