(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Turku GP]PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2006-07-30]RO[2]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[murky: Hello
agui [8k?\]: Hello
Dreggo [4k\]: hi
ljl [13k?\]: hello
rayen [6k\]: Hello :)
Templar [17k?\]: Hi
grossebaf [4k?\]: hello 
Warfreak2 [16k\]: hello
clemi [20k?\]: hello
murky: Nice to hear you 
TenukiBoy [8k\]: hello !!! fine ;)
zee [10k\]: Hello
Hu [12k\]: Hello!  Good sound.
clemi [20k?\]: yeah
hansb [5k?\]: thanks to the rain
Warfreak2 [16k\]: thunder storms
ljl [13k?\]: 105 in the shade out here
freegame [-\]: raining here
RoniinoR [28k?\]: רןעיא
clemi [20k?\]: in europe !
blitzme [6k\]: hi 
RoniinoR [28k?\]: right
blitzme [6k\]: we are happy
rayen [6k\]: nice
Warfreak2 [16k\]: i missed an atari a couple of hours ago :(
Th3m3 [18k\]: hello there
Blackstorm [5k?\]: hello#
choubi [11k\]: is it ok to nobi at the top though ?
letsdance: ok :)
choubi [11k\]: as black
]
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Scribe [-\]: game
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[Blackstorm [5k?\]: how strong ?
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[TenukiBoy [8k\]: cool, only 8 stones to win in 1 week :)
weee [11k\]: thanks
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
(;W[po]CR[po]C[Wook [-\]: I really like this "Common mistakes" series, looking forward to the next lessons :)
whendrik [11k\]: Look on audiogolessons.com there are some there to
Scribe [-\]: tries to forstall the Kobayashi
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[choubi [11k\]: fair exchange it seems
Scribe [-\]: d2 punishes white's mistake at k4 (at end of variation)
]
(;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]C[llaume [?\]: bored of joseki ?
]
;W[en]CR[en]C[Soclatotle [5k\]: not really, dont know them
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[co]CR[co]C[choubi [11k\]: yes
]
(;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
(;B[ci]CR[ci]C[choubi [11k\]: interesting
Scribe [-\]: black has suffered
]
(;W[jp]CR[jp]C[choubi [11k\]: didn't know joseki maybe ?
rayen [6k\]: D2 
]
(;B[qo]CR[qo]LB[qn:A][pp:B]C[rayen [6k\]: Q4 
choubi [11k\]: Q4 ?
agui [8k?\]: q4
droste [18k?\]: hane
pel [8k?\]: o3?
Blackstorm [5k?\]: b
seku [8k\]: B
agui [8k?\]: B
TenukiBoy [8k\]: b :)
choubi [11k\]: B
clemi [20k?\]: B
]
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[TenukiBoy [8k\]: no murky
]
(;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Scribe [-\]: r12 perfect move for black
]
(;W[nc]CR[nc]TR[pd][qh]
(;B[pc]CR[pc]C[choubi [11k\]: D3 possible, but maybe not ehre
]
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[Kamisama [16k\]: yes
choubi [11k\]: K17 ?
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]C[rayen [6k\]: I would rather F17 
choubi [11k\]: miai possibilities ?
Warfreak2 [16k\]: choice of two 2-point jumps
Kamisama [16k\]: good move
hansb [5k?\]: too far from the white stone
choubi [11k\]: L17 sente base for W
rayen [6k\]: w will G17  now
Vanya [10k?\]: seems ok
Scribe [-\]: k17 is punishment
choubi [11k\]: here*
]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: black must punish the white tenuki of c14
rayen [6k\]: thx
choubi [11k\]: thank you Guo Juan !
Hu [12k\]: Thank you!
Th3m3 [18k\]:  thank you
Soclatotle [5k\]: thanks
toepk [20k?\]: thank you
ouigkmy [14k\]: thank you for the lecture
Templar [17k?\]: thank you
Vanya [10k?\]: thank you
agui [8k?\]: Thank you very much
TenukiBoy [8k\]: thanks Guo Juan !!
zeroblue42 [14k\]: thank you
Zark [2k\]: thank you
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
humbaba [10k\]: thanx very much !!
Kamisama [16k\]: arrigato
Blackstorm [5k?\]: thx
Tarkam [?\]: Thanks
weee [11k\]: tdhanks you 
Scribe [-\]: thanks to Guo Juan
Templar [17k?\]: very interesting lesson
zee [10k\]: Thank you and the ING Foundation for a great lesson
murky: thanks 
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
choubi [11k\]: have a great evening !
Idn [5k\]: Thank you very much !
au2 [4k\]: Thanks Scribe
Scribe [-\]: and thanks to the Ing Goe Foundationb
blitzme [6k\]: thx for nice lektion!!!!
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Guo Juan
au2 [4k\]: Have a great week
seku [8k\]: thank you for the lesson
au2 [4k\]: bye bye
Janez [2k\]: Thanks
zee [10k\]: Special thanks to Scribe
ljl [13k?\]: thx very much
Majeh [19k\]: thanks:o
murky: bye
butterdish: thanks GJ, Ing, Scribe
droste [18k?\]: thank you
agui [8k?\]: See you
SoulShard [-\]: Thanks Guo, thanks scribe, thanks ing go foundation!
Idn [5k\]: bye bye !
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
Idn [5k\]: yes very good site, one euros is little expensive !!
rayen [6k\]: lol
Idn [5k\]: : )
butterdish: bye bye
zee [10k\]: I like the audio site a lot
Idn [5k\]: thank you !
kkkekai [?\]: thx 
vuya [20k\]: tnx
Majeh [19k\]: ^_^
reed338 [?\]: thank you
kkkekai [?\]: by
Templar [17k?\]: bye
vuya [20k\]: bye
Blackstorm [5k?\]: cya
Th3m3 [18k\]: bye bye
Vanya [10k?\]: see you
Cutrone [14k\]: bye
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[choubi [11k\]: is Q17 ok there ?
Scribe [-\]: black must punish white o17 stone by pincering in place of j17
choubi [11k\]: good move ?
]
(;W[cr]CR[cr]C[choubi [11k\]: never sure when to play a teshi nobi :/
choubi [11k\]: techu*
Scribe [-\]: q16 and r12 connection is too weak
]
(;B[ie]CR[ie]
(;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
(;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[ql]CR[ql]TR[cr]C[Scribe [-\]: black protected the upper right and got sente
choubi [11k\]: feels like we have sente on move 1, and then we try to survive
choubi [11k\]: :)
])
(;W[]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
(;W[nb]CR[nb]C[choubi [11k\]: ouch
Scribe [-\]: split
]
;B[ld]CR[ld])
(;W[ld]CR[ld]C[Cornak [11k\]: nice one.
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[ke]CR[ke])))
(;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
;W[rh]CR[rh]
;B[le]CR[le]))
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[ee]CR[ee]))
(;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[bm]CR[bm]TR[pd][qh]C[rayen [6k\]: b can still live in corner though :S
Warfreak2 [16k\]: yes
choubi [11k\]: but we were saying R12 was a good move
][rayen [6k\]: b can still live in corner though :S
]
(;W[qf]CR[qf])
(;W[qe]CR[qe])))
(;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: j17 is not punishment
])
(;B[kc]CR[kc])
(;B[kd]CR[kd])
(;B[lc]CR[lc]))
(;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: normal play for white
choubi [11k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: k17 denies white a base
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[cf]CR[cf])
(;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Vanya [10k?\]: C15 
]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[ic]CR[ic])))
(;B[lc]CR[lc]C[Kamisama [16k\]: joseki
ouigkmy [14k\]: r17?
Kamisama [16k\]: R17
hansb [5k?\]: san san
Vanya [10k?\]: sure
]
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[agui [8k?\]: R17
Vanya [10k?\]: R17 
])
(;W[qc]CR[qc]C[choubi [11k\]: nice
]
(;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Cornak [11k\]: r17
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[re]CR[re]
(;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[qe]CR[qe]C[Scribe [-\]: r12 stone is now misplaced
]
;B[pe]CR[pe])
(;B[pf]CR[pf]))
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[me]CR[me]C[Kamisama [16k\]: better
choubi [11k\]: small wall
agui [8k?\]: no
hansb [5k?\]: too cramoed
ouigkmy [14k\]: black didnt gain much
pel [8k?\]: still to close
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Templar [17k?\]: small
]
;B[ph]CR[ph]C[Scribe [-\]: r12 is too close to black wall
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]C[Scribe [-\]: black overconcentrated
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[ce]CR[ce]TR[od][pd][qd][me][ph][qh]C[Scribe [-\]: white is gaining a lot
]
;AE[ph][qh][qi]AB[qj]C[choubi [11k\]: almost 5 stone wall
agui [8k?\]: yes
])))
(;AB[pc]))
(;W[]C[Kamisama [16k\]: r!3 not better ?
Scribe [-\]: not possible for white
]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Kamisama [16k\]: r13 
Scribe [-\]: very severe attack
Kamisama [16k\]: hm
]
;W[pl]CR[pl]LB[qk:B][rl:A]C[Vanya [10k?\]: R9 
Kamisama [16k\]: r7 ?
rayen [6k\]: R9 
agui [8k?\]: S8
Idn [5k\]: R9 *
humbaba [10k\]: r9
seku [8k\]: s8?
butterdish: s8
Warfreak2 [16k\]: i think s8
choubi [11k\]: r7
choubi [11k\]: S8 maybe yes
Scribe [-\]: no not today
butterdish: no
Cornak [11k\]: and, if white defends at S6  after s8?
Vanya [10k?\]: which is better now?
]
(;B[rl]CR[rl]C[Cornak [11k\]: let's go for s8...
]
(;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[Scribe [-\]: s8 make corner bigger
])
(;W[rn]CR[rn]C[TenukiBoy [8k\]: then q9 would be too good for b I bguess cornak
Kamisama [16k\]: ye
Cornak [11k\]: hmm
]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Cornak [11k\]: yes, not good at all...
Cornak [11k\]: ok
]))
(;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: r9 connects to r12 directly
])))
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
(;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qi]CR[qi])
(;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[choubi [11k\]: ah yes
choubi [11k\]: I remember that
])
(;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[oe]CR[oe])))
(;W[pp]CR[pp]C[Vanya [10k?\]: B
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[oq]CR[oq]))
(;B[dr]CR[dr]
(;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[bo]CR[bo])
(;W[br]CR[br]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[hq]CR[hq])))
(;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[bm]CR[bm]C[Scribe [-\]: not joseki
]))
(;B[dr]CR[dr]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
(;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[bo]CR[bo]C[choubi [11k\]: B3 C2 B5 ?
])
(;W[br]CR[br]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[dj]LB[dj:17][cm:7][dm:3][em:13][cn:1][dn:2][en:4][fn:14][co:6][bq:12][cq:5][dq:8][fq:15][iq:16][br:10][cr:11][dr:9]C[whendrik [11k\]: joseki
][whendrik [11k\]: joseki
])
(;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
(;B[dk]CR[dk]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
(;B[dl]CR[dl])
(;B[ce]LB[ce:9][cj:7][ck:6][dk:5][cl:8][bm:4][bn:2][br:3][dr:1]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
letsdance: pincer will be bad :P
]))
(;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[bl]CR[bl]
;W[el]CR[el]C[Scribe [-\]: also joseki
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[cl]CR[cl]))))
(;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[cm]CR[cm]TR[cq][dq][fq][pq]C[Scribe [-\]: White d6 touchs the weaker black stone ?
Bagowei [12k\]: for w
letsdance: w
swilks [6k\]: bad for black. low on bottom
rayen [6k\]: I like w
Th3m3 [18k\]: w
seku [8k\]: white
choubi [11k\]: W
Idn [5k\]: white
toepk [20k?\]: better for w
letsdance: direction of play
bplayer55 [8k\]: good for white
clemi [20k?\]: very good for white
Cornak [11k\]: black has sente...
Scribe [-\]: all black stones on the bottom are low
]))
(;B[cp]CR[cp]C[seku [8k\]: nope ^^
]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[bp]CR[bp]TR[bm][dm][cn]
(;W[em]CR[em]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[jp]CR[jp]LB[dl:B][em:A]C[Scribe [-\]: more common professional move is c4 in place of c3
choubi [11k\]: and tenuki at K4 after E7 possible ?
Scribe [-\]: h3 to live
TenukiBoy [8k\]: don't think so choubi
choubi [11k\]: vvery wise move
]
(;B[dq]CR[dq])
(;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
(;B[jr]CR[jr])
(;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cr]CR[cr]C[TenukiBoy [8k\]: *I don't ...
]))
(;B[hp]CR[hp]))
(;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[cm]CR[cm]C[Cornak [11k\]: close his mouth.
agui [8k?\]: yes thanks
Scribe [-\]: makes black heavy by filling the tiger's mouth
droste [18k?\]: feed it
]
;W[eq]CR[eq])))
(;W[eo]CR[eo]C[seku [8k\]: would you have a general rule of thumb as to when to consider double approach?
pel [8k?\]: np
murky: no
humbaba [10k\]: is w f4 bad ?
reed338 [?\]: good
zee [10k\]: fine
Kamisama [16k\]: its fine :D
Hu [12k\]: It is good.
playmore [2d\]: no, speed is good
ouigkmy [14k\]: no, it's okay :\]
choubi [11k\]: yes
Templar [17k?\]: that is ok =\]
Cornak [11k\]: yes
murky: full of excitments
agui [8k?\]: yes
Cornak [11k\]: it's fine
Vanya [10k?\]: it's ok
choubi [11k\]: maybe scribe is putting ice on his fingers ;)
seku [8k\]: yes, youre talking very clearly =)
agui [8k?\]: no prob
Hu [12k\]: More information this way :)
pel [8k?\]: speed is veryg good - keeping me awake ;)
Templar [17k?\]: the more info we get :)
Idn [5k\]: it is clearly
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]TR[eo][dp]C[choubi [11k\]: your exitement is refreshing :)
choubi [11k\]: excitement*
murky: hehe
choubi [11k\]: what do you mean ?
murky: should W block D3 first?
]
(;W[]
;B[go]CR[go]C[choubi [11k\]: to not tenuki ?
choubi [11k\]: ah yes
]
(;W[el]CR[el]C[Kamisama [16k\]: gas ;o
])
(;W[em]CR[em])
(;W[]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[]
;B[gm]CR[gm]C[choubi [11k\]: :/
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[choubi [11k\]: black is very rich and thick
]
;AE[cp][dp][cq][dq])
(;W[dm]CR[dm]))
(;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
(;W[cm]CR[cm])
(;W[ho]CR[ho]))))
(;W[cn]CR[cn]C[Hu [12k\]: "typical"  is a fine word.
]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: Kobayashi Fuseki
]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[po]CR[po]))
(;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Idn [5k\]: Hello
]
;AW[np][nq][pq]AB[mq][nr]C[Vanya [10k?\]: hello
Wook [-\]: yes
toepk [20k?\]: yes
Th3m3 [18k\]: yeah 
letsdance: yes
clemi [20k?\]: we haer you clear
agui [8k?\]: yes
ouigkmy [14k\]: sound is fine
Cutrone [14k\]: yes
Warfreak2 [16k\]: i can hear
letsdance: :
Vanya [10k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: yes we can hear well
]
;W[or]CR[or]
(;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Scribe [-\]: Local shape considerations
letsdance: yes
Templar [17k?\]: yes :)
])
(;B[ns]CR[ns]C[choubi [11k\]: hello Guo juan
]
(;W[os]CR[os]C[Scribe [-\]: black extension to edge is a bad move
]
;B[mr]CR[mr])
(;W[lr]CR[lr]C[Scribe [-\]: black does not gain from o1 as compared to connecting at n2
])
(;W[mo]CR[mo]C[letsdance: aji
Scribe [-\]: o1 creates a needless cutting point in black shape
]
(;B[lo]CR[lo]LB[lp:1][mr:2][ns:A]C[Scribe [-\]: o1 leaves weakness es in black shape
letsdance: yes
]
;W[lp]CR[lp])
(;B[jb]CR[jb]
;AW[jb][ic][id]AB[kb][jc][jd][nd][pd][je]C[Cornak [11k\]: If this whole sequence is one line higher, is the descent still bad?
]
(;W[ib]CR[ib]C[Scribe [-\]: the o1 move is the bad move
Scribe [-\]: white reduces black in endgame due to the connection at j18
Scribe [-\]: there is also aji of m18 move
letsdance: in 9k?
Scribe [-\]: o1 is mistake typical of 15k to 30k range
]
(;B[ka]CR[ka])
(;B[]
(;W[lb]CR[lb])
(;W[ka]CR[ka]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[la]CR[la]
;B[ma]CR[ma]
;W[ja]CR[ja]
;B[mb]CR[mb])))
(;W[ja]CR[ja]
;B[ka]CR[ka]
;W[ib]CR[ib])))))
(;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[letsdance: yes
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Vanya [10k?\]: yes
choubi [11k\]: yes
]
;W[of]CR[of]C[whendrik [11k\]: Yes
]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[rayen [6k\]: yes
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[ri]CR[ri]C[Scribe [-\]: well known joseki
letsdance: yes
letsdance: it have aji
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[jp]CR[jp]LB[hd:2][hd:2][gq:1][hq:2][iq:3]
(;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
(;W[jr]CR[jr]C[choubi [11k\]: H2 cuts ?
Blackstorm [5k?\]: j3
Scribe [-\]: this is a mistake in the lower left
letsdance: ok
Vanya [10k?\]: H2 
letsdance: how to punish?
Th3m3 [18k\]: h3
agui [8k?\]: H3
letsdance: ok
choubi [11k\]: H3 yes
rayen [6k\]: G4 
choubi [11k\]: not H2 sorry
Zark [2k\]: g4 then h2?
RoniinoR [28k?\]: H3 
Vanya [10k?\]: G4 F4 H2 
Scribe [-\]: slide under single black stone is good with two space. but error with three space
letsdance: piping
Scribe [-\]: black splits white\\
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[choubi [11k\]: G4 F4 G3  ?
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[gr]CR[gr]C[choubi [11k\]: ah yes
]
;B[hr]CR[hr])
(;W[ir]CR[ir]C[Scribe [-\]: also a mistake
choubi [11k\]: K2 and make a wall ?
letsdance: yes
whendrik [11k\]: no
letsdance: :)
Blackstorm [5k?\]: i ve got a broken nose :P
]
;B[rj]CR[rj]C[Idn [5k\]: K2 too good for black
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[jr]CR[jr]C[Vanya [10k?\]: black stone si stronger
Scribe [-\]: black punishes
choubi [11k\]: so K2 is a good move
choubi [11k\]: *happy*
])
(;W[hq]CR[hq]LB[dn:B][fo:A]C[TenukiBoy [8k\]: lesson 1 : beware of doors
Scribe [-\]: not so good this h3 move
choubi [11k\]: K4 feels no pressure ?
letsdance: later : beaware from tenukiboy :P
Azaela [17k\]: what about j3?
rayen [6k\]: j3 is contacting move
Scribe [-\]: this mistake from 15k to 1 d
letsdance: ye
agui [8k?\]: yes 
whendrik [11k\]: Yes
Scribe [-\]: how should white play on the lower left ?
Blackstorm [5k?\]: can u show  how it looks correctly ??
choubi [11k\]: so W should for instance jump to corner ?
]))
(;W[dr]CR[dr]C[humbaba [10k\]: is d2 necesssary before h3 ?
letsdance: ok :)
choubi [11k\]: thank you !
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Vanya [10k?\]: yes
]
;B[]C[Scribe [-\]: white can make two eyes after h3
]
(;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[dn]CR[dn])
(;W[dm]CR[dm]C[letsdance: if K4 is the hasami , dont we do double approach?
Scribe [-\]: attack black this way
letsdance: C6 
letsdance: yes
Blackstorm [5k?\]: ok
choubi [11k\]: very clear
agui [8k?\]: yes
]))))