(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2006-07-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[LemoNT [-\]: ni hao ZhuJiu laoshi
Cornak [13k\]: hello, is the lecture starting soon?
LemoNT [-\]: probably in 15min or so
Cornak [13k\]: ok
Cornak [13k\]: What does laoshi mean?
Dance [11k\]: teacher
Cornak [13k\]: oh, ok.
Dance [11k\]: "lao" actually means "old", but I forgot what "shi" means, but together they mean "teacher"
Janus37 [4k\]: hello !
Hu [12k\]: Howdy.  Sound is good.
Janus37 [4k\]: fine
Scribe [-\]: [Sacrifice a Single Stone on the Second Line 1\]
whendrik [11k\]: Hello
au2 [4k\]: yes
saodiseng [1d\]: good morning
immortal [10k\]: yes
MRei [?\]: hi
etl3 [?\]: Yes
clemi [20k?\]: good afternoon from france
Scribe [-\]: http://www.yellowbridge.com/language/wordsearch.php?searchPinyin=1&pinyinWord=lao3+shi1
Hu [12k\]: A bit of an echo, but reasonable sound.
murky: Hi, Good to hear you again
Scribe [-\]: Wu Qingyang game played in 1933
murky: slow summer game
DrOlczyk [14k\]: Some day do karigane vs shusha
DrOlczyk [14k\]: Please
wizzydude [26k?\]: can some1 translate him?
murky: read scribe
Cornak [13k\]: thank you for the link scribe.
Scribe [-\]: Thank to the Ing Foundation for sponsoring this series of lessons
Scribe [-\]: Jujo does not provide private lessons at this time.  Please contact his brother, Mingjiu instead
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[Scribe [-\]: Wu is Black
]
(;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[murky: Wu Seigan's game
]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[do]CR[do]C[DrOlczyk [14k\]: So no komi makes 3x3 a little easier to play.
]
;B[er]CR[er]C[Scribe [-\]: after 3x3 it is easy for white to take the outside
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[partisan [14k\]: here were no komi, right?
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Scribe [-\]: white can kill black in lower right per variation
whendrik [11k\]: Did he not knew this?
whendrik [11k\]: no
whendrik [11k\]: i can still hear you
Vanya [10k?\]: hello
Scribe [-\]: we can hear you
Janus37 [4k\]: we hear you
Cornak [13k\]: yes.
seidelin [9k\]: yes
immortal [10k\]: yes
]
(;W[pm]CR[pm]C[etl3 [?\]: Yes
tibra [15k?\]: we hear you
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]C[Blackstorm [7k?\]: hello :P
]
;W[on]CR[on]C[smudge [?\]: yes, we can hear you :)
]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[om]CR[om]
(;B[ql]CR[ql])
(;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[whendrik [11k\]: Why did he not played like you showed? 
Scribe [-\]: better than real game
Janus37 [4k\]: whendrik : game played 70 years ago ...
Scribe [-\]: black has three corners, white has the move, where to play for white now ?
whendrik [11k\]: left side
Blackstorm [7k?\]: f 3
partisan [14k\]: around f3?
Scribe [-\]: please select a particular point.
seidelin [9k\]: c5
]
(;W[hp]CR[hp]C[Blackstorm [7k?\]: j 3 ?
Scribe [-\]: hard to enclose bottom, white cant follow joseki
Scribe [-\]: must change...white played h4
]
(;B[pk]CR[pk]
(;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Cornak [13k\]: I hate when my opponent has territory...
Scribe [-\]: black  now limited to second line play from lower left corner as a result of h3, can not play third line
Scribe [-\]: o9 not so good
Scribe [-\]: normal move, but leaves two white stones rather stranded
Scribe [-\]: in fuseki must make all stones useful
]
;W[mi]CR[mi]C[Scribe [-\]: black shape on right is too good
seidelin [9k\]: vacation from playing the game
Scribe [-\]: this game played at the very start of the New Fuseki period, when Wu and Kitani were still struggling with the concepts
]
(;B[im]CR[im]
(;W[jo]CR[jo]C[partisan [14k\]: hm go has a lot to do with economics and trading so you schouldnt hate that
Scribe [-\]: white does not want to allow black two moves in the bottom area
Scribe [-\]: later Kitani called k5 the losing move
tablescrap [8k?\]: d7
Scribe [-\]: Where for Black to play now ?
Janus37 [4k\]: k3 ? :)
ChocoboVII [?\]: famous move?
seidelin [9k\]: L9
Blackstorm [7k?\]: f 4
ligo [?\]: l7
whendrik [11k\]: D15
Zark [2k\]: J10?
Blackstorm [7k?\]: m 4 
murky: l11
clemi [20k?\]: F6 ?
ligo [?\]: o13
wizzydude [26k?\]: c10?  tenuki
av8 [10k\]: j11
seidelin [9k\]: D7
ChocoboVII [?\]: think about losing in just one move... I want to see it :D
Blackstorm [7k?\]: m 6
zzz [7k\]: O5
Blackstorm [7k?\]: :P
ligo [?\]: c16
SanRenSei [9k\]: c16
toones [13k\]: c16
whendrik [11k\]: yes
playmore [2d\]: C17 
ligo [?\]: e15
whendrik [11k\]: D14
]
(;B[ee]CR[ee]C[Blackstorm [7k?\]: ??
ligo [?\]: guess
Scribe [-\]: This is a very famous move for Black.  After this move, Kitani believed that White is losing
ligo [?\]: bad
ligo [?\]: 7k
murky: JuJo gave us some hint though
Scribe [-\]: e15 makes it very hard to white to gain in the center
ligo [?\]: big hint
Scribe [-\]: the normal joseki is too easy for black
ChocoboVII [?\]: 5x5 point :)
]
(;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[di]CR[di]C[Scribe [-\]: normal joseki
])
(;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[ik]CR[ik]C[Scribe [-\]: white happy if black plays d15 in place of e15
]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[ii]CR[ii]C[TrueWisdom [1k\]: j13
Scribe [-\]: fuseki is very hard to figure out, for pros as well as amateurs
]
;W[ig]CR[ig]C[Scribe [-\]: endgame we can calculate the value of moves, hard to do the same in the fusei
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: fuseki
]
(;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [-\]: white makes black live in center, gains strength to attack black on side
]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Scribe [-\]: black c15/e15 stones are flexible either take the corner or the side.  side weakens white stones in the side
]
;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[gj]CR[gj]C[Scribe [-\]: black got sente
]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[bh]CR[bh])
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [-\]: real game
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
(;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[ae]CR[ae]
;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[bh]CR[bh])
(;W[bh]CR[bh]
(;B[ed]CR[ed])
(;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[hc]CR[hc]C[Scribe [-\]: black tries to get quick life without making white stones near black center stones stronger
seidelin [9k\]: thanks
etl3 [?\]: thank you
TrueWisdom [1k\]: thx
tibra [15k?\]: thank you
au2 [4k\]: Thank you
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Jujo
Janus37 [4k\]: thanks a lot !!
ChocoboVII [?\]: Hope it'll happen again :\]
MRei [?\]: thank you
Hu [12k\]: Thank you.
whendrik [11k\]: Thank you
murky: thanks 
immortal [10k\]: thanks
Cornak [13k\]: thanks
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
SoulShard [-\]: thx for the lesson!
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation
Zark [2k\]: thank you
jjacky [12k?\]: thank you
saodiseng [1d\]: thank you
reed338 [?\]: thx
au2 [4k\]: Thanks to Scribe
wizzydude [26k?\]: thx
immortal [10k\]: thanks ing foundation
au2 [4k\]: bye
Blackstorm [7k?\]: thx
Sotiris [1k?\]: thank you 
ChocoboVII [?\]: thank you very much
]))))
(;W[kh]CR[kh]
;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[fk]CR[fk]
;W[el]CR[el]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[bh]CR[bh]))
(;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cc]CR[cc])))
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[di]CR[di]C[Scribe [-\]: white builds center
]))
(;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[jp]CR[jp]))
(;B[jp]CR[jp])
(;B[jo]CR[jo]))
(;W[nk]CR[nk]C[Scribe [-\]: much better move for white
]
;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [-\]: same idea but does not strengthen black
Blackstorm [7k?\]: 10 o   ?
]
(;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[oj]CR[oj])
(;W[mh]CR[mh])))
(;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Scribe [-\]: very famous move
]))
(;W[fq]CR[fq]C[partisan [14k\]: is c5 to slow?
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[jo]CR[jo])
(;W[gp]CR[gp]C[partisan [14k\]: :)
]
;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [-\]: bottom so open still easy for black to invade that area
Scribe [-\]: white must make wall in lower right work
])))
(;W[pn]CR[pn]C[clemi [20k?\]: yes we can
murky: sound came back
]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: White tries to get all outside
]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
(;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[qk]CR[qk]C[Scribe [-\]: this is better if white really wants outside
]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[rh]CR[rh]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[sl]CR[sl]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[rq]CR[rq])
(;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[oj]CR[oj]C[Scribe [-\]: black can not hane at q9...dies
])))
(;B[po]CR[po]C[murky: no komi?
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[rp]CR[rp]C[Scribe [-\]: no komi game
]
;B[no]CR[no]C[Scribe [-\]: komi began with the first honinbo tournament\\
]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [-\]: better for black than in game
]))
