(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-06-25]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[hiknoko [27k\]: supposing you dont make a mistake in the follw up
sephio [10k?\]: =D
sephio [10k?\]: hikaru no ko? XD
hiknoko [27k\]: yes
sephio [10k?\]: rofl :)
hiknoko [27k\]: its a play on the manga
sephio [10k?\]: no
hiknoko [27k\]: /
sephio [10k?\]: hikaru no GO
hiknoko [27k\]: i know
sephio [10k?\]: not KO
sephio [10k?\]: XD
hiknoko [27k\]: i know that
Rafghost2 [22k\]: 6
sephio [10k?\]: lol
pel [9k?\]: giant bulky five :>
]
(;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[ca]CR[ca]
;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[eb]CR[eb]C[hiknoko [27k\]: yes
]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;AB[jb][hc][ic][kc]C[rayen [6k\]: this one again ? :S
xDarigaaz [7k?\]: hi
rayen [6k\]: Hello
Rafghost2 [22k\]: yes
ouigkmy [16k\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: hear you well :)
xDarigaaz [7k?\]: yes
rayen [6k\]: I can hear you
BSY [12k\]: hi
hiknoko [27k\]: yes
sephio [10k?\]: yes
sephio [10k?\]: xD
sephio [10k?\]: cool voice =)
rayen [6k\]: yes
jjermann [19k\]: yes
Rafghost2 [22k\]: no
sume [4k?\]: yes
sume [4k?\]: 2
sephio [10k?\]: 2
sephio [10k?\]: yo
sephio [10k?\]: with tesuji?
sephio [10k?\]: D18
sephio [10k?\]: right?
sume [4k?\]: 2
sephio [10k?\]: i think D18
sephio [10k?\]: can kill white
hiknoko [27k\]: d 18?
hiknoko [27k\]: how?
sephio [10k?\]: yes
sephio [10k?\]: if black play D18
sephio [10k?\]: where will white play?
sume [4k?\]: white plays F19
hiknoko [27k\]: d17
Rafghost2 [22k\]: d17
sephio [10k?\]: yes
Rafghost2 [22k\]: yes
reed338 [?\]: e19
sephio [10k?\]: then black
sephio [10k?\]: E17
sephio [10k?\]: ;)
sephio [10k?\]: white is dead
sume [4k?\]: 3
rayen [6k\]: E17 
sephio [10k?\]: with D18!
]
;W[]C[sephio [10k?\]: :(
sume [4k?\]: e19
rayen [6k\]: E17 
rayen [6k\]: E17 
sume [4k?\]: g18
sume [4k?\]: no
Rafghost2 [22k\]: e19 and e17
sume [4k?\]: g18
Rafghost2 [22k\]: no
hiknoko [27k\]: nope
wholeboard [7k\]: which is the best?
reed338 [?\]: nope
]
(;B[db]CR[db]C[sephio [10k?\]: yes
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[sephio [10k?\]: and white?
sephio [10k?\]: E17
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[da]CR[da]C[sephio [10k?\]: arg
sephio [10k?\]: XD
rayen [6k\]: :p
sume [4k?\]: 22
jjermann [19k\]: *g*
ReDLotuS [21k?\]: d19
])
(;B[ea]CR[ea]C[sume [4k?\]: f17
caraib007 [16k\]: f19?
sephio [10k?\]: hey i am only a 4k on kgs don't be angry :)
sephio [10k?\]: :D
Rafghost2 [22k\]: f19
hiknoko [27k\]: o i see
hiknoko [27k\]: yay im right!
sume [4k?\]: e17
hiknoko [27k\]: i agrew ith rafghost
]
(;W[fa]CR[fa]C[sume [4k?\]: g18
reed338 [?\]: d18
Scribe [-\]: Key Move
]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
(;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[ha]CR[ha])
(;W[ga]CR[ga]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[db]CR[db]C[sephio [10k?\]: yay =D
]))
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[da]CR[da]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[ha]CR[ha]C[TeeSushi [7k\]: nice
])
(;W[da]CR[da]C[sephio [10k?\]: we need a teesushi XD
Rafghost2 [22k\]: d17
TeeSushi [7k\]: :P
bplayer55 [10k\]: d18
]
;B[dc]CR[dc]C[sume [4k?\]: g18
]
;W[db]CR[db]C[reed338 [?\]: g18
hiknoko [27k\]: e17
sephio [10k?\]: g18
rayen [6k\]: F19 
TeeSushi [7k\]: F19 
Rafghost2 [22k\]: yes
]
(;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[ga]CR[ga]C[sume [4k?\]: before
])
(;B[ec]CR[ec]
(;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[gb]CR[gb])
(;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[ga]CR[ga]))))
(;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Scribe [-\]: Thee ways to kill this White group
Rafghost2 [22k\]: three ways: e19, e17 and g18!!
Rafghost2 [22k\]: only to remember
reed338 [?\]: game
sume [4k?\]: yay
]
(;W[db]CR[db]C[rayen [6k\]: F19 
sume [4k?\]: e19
Rafghost2 [22k\]: f19
sume [4k?\]: e19
]
(;B[fa]CR[fa]
;W[ea]CR[ea]C[rayen [6k\]: H19 
sephio [10k?\]: hm
])
(;B[ea]CR[ea]C[sume [4k?\]: e19
]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[gb]CR[gb]))
(;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[db]CR[db])
(;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[ha]CR[ha]))
(;B[gb]CR[gb]
(;W[fb]CR[fb]C[sume [4k?\]: sorry
sume [4k?\]: wrong
sume [4k?\]: e19
]
;B[ea]CR[ea]
(;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[ha]CR[ha])
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fa]CR[fa]
;B[da]CR[da]))
(;W[ga]CR[ga]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: white will live so
sephio [10k?\]: a teesushi Xd
]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]C[rayen [6k\]: E19 
]
;W[fb]CR[fb]C[sephio [10k?\]: tee & sushi :)
]
(;B[da]CR[da]C[sume [4k?\]: 319
])
(;B[ea]CR[ea]C[rayen [6k\]: snapback
]))))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[sephio [10k?\]: sanrensei? o.o
Scribe [-\]: Who are the players ?
TeeSushi [7k\]: san ren sei my favorite :D
ouigkmy [16k\]: who are the players?
])
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[rayen [6k\]: 50/50 fuseki :/
]
;B[jj]CR[jj]C[Ordiac [8k\]: id like this
TeeSushi [7k\]: all star opening :)
]))
(;B[jj]CR[jj]
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Eternity [24k?\]: ooo, tengen
TeeSushi [7k\]: sanrensei :D
rayen [6k\]: no
hiknoko [27k\]: hard
ouigkmy [16k\]: no
sume [4k?\]: no
TeeSushi [7k\]: hehe
sephio [10k?\]: Q17 , Q3 , R10 is best opening :)
Jefia [13k\]: yeah
sephio [10k?\]: lol
BSY [12k\]: no
Rafghost2 [22k\]: in those years the hoshi start to be played or?
sephio [10k?\]: chinese wall? :)
Jefia [13k\]: no
rayen [6k\]: seems okay
sephio [10k?\]: XD
ouigkmy [16k\]: hard to play it
Vanya [11k\]: only in y dreams
Hu [13k?\]: Good fun fuseki.
Scribe [-\]: 1934
seidelin [9k\]: crazy go day
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[sephio [10k?\]: a short oppening - tengen
]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jp]CR[jp]LB[dj:B][dp:A]C[Jefia [13k\]: fuseki experimental time the 30s
sephio [10k?\]: stupid...
hiknoko [27k\]: all right on the starpoints
sephio [10k?\]: ...
Jefia [13k\]: white
tablescrap [8k?\]: b
seidelin [9k\]: white
Vanya [11k\]: white
sume [4k?\]: white
rayen [6k\]: black ^^
Rafghost2 [22k\]: b
bplayer55 [10k\]: b
sephio [10k?\]: black
pel [9k?\]: black
hiknoko [27k\]: white
Ordiac [8k\]: both
agui [6k?\]: white
ReDLotuS [21k?\]: b
sephio [10k?\]: rofl =(
]
;W[gj]CR[gj]C[sephio [10k?\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: Black has more stones on the board...any extra move
sephio [10k?\]: white =)
sume [4k?\]: black
sume [4k?\]: white
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]C[sephio [10k?\]: white
tablescrap [8k?\]: d4 has no future
sephio [10k?\]: no
sephio [10k?\]: stupid
Rafghost2 [22k\]: w
sephio [10k?\]: good for white
hiknoko [27k\]: d4 has a good future
Hu [13k?\]: Good exchange for W.
agui [6k?\]: for black
rayen [6k\]: black
Jefia [13k\]: w
Hu [13k?\]: for black, II mean.
sephio [10k?\]: jo
Ordiac [8k\]: not on c14 ?
Rafghost2 [22k\]: c14 is weak in this case
hiknoko [27k\]: oo diagonal
]
(;W[fd]CR[fd])
(;W[ce]CR[ce])
(;W[ff]CR[ff]LB[md:F][fh:E][cm:C][dm:A][cn:B][dn:D]C[hoppla [6k\]: hm
sephio [10k?\]: lol :D
Ordiac [8k\]: c6
Ordiac [8k\]: obvious ?
Rafghost2 [22k\]: f8
sephio [10k?\]: N16
sume [4k?\]: f12
Vanya [11k\]: F4 
rayen [6k\]: D7 
seidelin [9k\]: d7
nitram1 [7k\]: d7
hoppla [6k\]: c6
sk00 [16k\]: C7
agui [6k?\]: D7
pel [9k?\]: c6
sephio [10k?\]: f12
sephio [10k?\]: F12
sephio [10k?\]: or N16
sephio [10k?\]: C3
sephio [10k?\]: is sansan
sephio [10k?\]: and better then all attacks 
Rafghost2 [22k\]: F8?
hoppla [6k\]: B
sephio [10k?\]: F16
Ordiac [8k\]: didnt go seigen say like : in opening everything i spossible ?
sk00 [16k\]: c
hoppla [6k\]: its my move
seidelin [9k\]: E
maketa: e
sephio [10k?\]: yes
jjermann [19k\]: sephio: you talk a lot... ;)
sephio [10k?\]: =)
]
(;B[ee]CR[ee]C[sephio [10k?\]: hm
hoppla [6k\]: hui
Ordiac [8k\]: hehe
sephio [10k?\]: cut? o.o
sephio [10k?\]: y?
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[de]CR[de]C[sephio [10k?\]: :)
]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[rayen [6k\]: b getting weak
sephio [10k?\]: 30k-game? ;)
Rafghost2 [22k\]: that happened to me in my last match
])
(;B[gh]CR[gh]C[sephio [10k?\]: i sayd :D
]
;W[fh]CR[fh]C[sephio [10k?\]: argh
]
;B[fi]CR[fi]C[Ordiac [8k\]: sry f4 i cant understand
]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[hh]CR[hh]C[rayen [6k\]: complicated
seidelin [9k\]: good for black
Ordiac [8k\]: all light stones
Vanya [11k\]: extremely complicated
]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[gk]CR[gk]C[sephio [10k?\]: what will white do if black play sansan
sephio [10k?\]: ?
]
;B[ii]CR[ii]C[hiknoko [27k\]: ansan has nothing to do with this battle right now
rayen [6k\]: :p
Scribe [-\]: yes
Ordiac [8k\]: f9 is sente now ?
Hu [13k?\]: It's fun to stimulate the imagination.
reed338 [?\]: would you ever play like this
Hu [13k?\]: Shin Fuseki
Ordiac [8k\]: the new fuseki are ?
hoppla [6k\]: revolution!
wholeboard [7k\]: revolutionary
Hu [13k?\]: "New Fuseki"
Ordiac [8k\]: *area
sephio [10k?\]: hmm
syriel [8k\]: new fuseki era 
sephio [10k?\]: strong sente is F8 or?
hiknoko [27k\]: what are the new fuseki?
Ordiac [8k\]: this dosaku nightmare ?
Scribe [-\]: go without reading ability is the same as blind men dueling with chainsaws
sume [4k?\]: b
Ordiac [8k\]: id like w
tablescrap [8k?\]: b
sephio [10k?\]: b
Vanya [11k\]: good for black
agui [6k?\]: for black
syriel [8k\]: i like w
Ordiac [8k\]: g9 is light stones
sk00 [16k\]: b
sephio [10k?\]: Ô_o
]
(;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[gm]CR[gm]
;B[eo]CR[eo])
(;W[fk]CR[fk]C[rayen [6k\]: no :(
hiknoko [27k\]: ooo
sume [4k?\]: no
sephio [10k?\]:  in how tree are you ran? Ô_o
Ordiac [8k\]: its sente
]
;B[di]CR[di]C[sk00 [16k\]: nop
]
(;W[dh]CR[dh]C[Ordiac [8k\]: again sente
Scribe [-\]: c7
Rafghost2 [22k\]: e5
Ordiac [8k\]: imho g9 still light stones
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]C[agui [6k?\]: c12
Rafghost2 [22k\]: d7?
reed338 [?\]: c6
]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[sephio [10k?\]: AAAAAAAAAAAH
hiknoko [27k\]: lol
sephio [10k?\]: not so loud >______________<
])
(;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [-\]: white gains
]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
(;B[gg]CR[gg]TR[eh][fh][hh][ii][jj]C[Ordiac [8k\]: thos helpes w top
sume [4k?\]: w
Rafghost2 [22k\]: black
sephio [10k?\]: ignoring
sk00 [16k\]:  b
sephio [10k?\]: and play R3
hiknoko [27k\]: Black
Rafghost2 [22k\]: good for black
sephio [10k?\]: black^^
sephio [10k?\]: lol
jjermann [19k\]: but white got a nice top?
hiknoko [27k\]: yay!
sephio [10k?\]: tenuki :)
hiknoko [27k\]: im smart
hiknoko [27k\]: !
sephio [10k?\]: ‼
Ordiac [8k\]: really ?
sume [4k?\]: b
Rafghost2 [22k\]: b
reed338 [?\]: b
Xbox360 [13k\]: b
sephio [10k?\]: Mindy =D
Ordiac [8k\]: is g13 even sente ?
hiknoko [27k\]: ?
Ordiac [8k\]: well me too
sephio [10k?\]: XD
Scribe [-\]: White has gained from the attack on the black side stones
Scribe [-\]: White lost two cutting stones, but Black center stones (3) are inefficient
Scribe [-\]: e17 is balck aji against white top left corner
hiknoko [27k\]: ah
Ordiac [8k\]: h17 error ?
]
;W[df]CR[df]C[Scribe [-\]: White gained top left corner and sente
]
;B[eg]CR[eg]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: near 15 points?
Scribe [-\]: e17 aji in variation diagram (not this line)
Vanya [11k\]: like for white
Rafghost2 [22k\]: maybe
ouigkmy [16k\]: hard :\]
sume [4k?\]: no
Ordiac [8k\]: id like w
agui [6k?\]: no
Hu [13k?\]: B can cut at E8.
sume [4k?\]: no
Ordiac [8k\]: q4 not solid yet too ?
])
(;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[]
;B[ec]CR[ec]))))
(;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: good move
]
;B[gh]CR[gh]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: g6
Scribe [-\]: d7 is good move
Scribe [-\]: patient
])))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[og]CR[og]C[Ordiac [8k\]: i like this
hiknoko [27k\]: p12 error
]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[of]CR[of]C[guojuan [5p\]: in chinese we call it Da Ya Liang
Ordiac [8k\]: b wall strong
]
(;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qc]CR[qc])
(;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[re]CR[re]C[Scribe [-\]: very very complicated
Scribe [-\]: subject of class next week
Hu [13k?\]: Cool
agui [6k?\]: ok  fine
Ordiac [8k\]: thx
Scribe [-\]: (HINT: try to figure it out yourself during the week)
BSY [12k\]: thx
Vanya [11k\]: thank you
agui [6k?\]: :)
hiknoko [27k\]: i cant save this 
Ordiac [8k\]: i tried a bit
hiknoko [27k\]: im not on my comp T_T
Ordiac [8k\]: but i not good at tsumego
hiknoko [27k\]: i wasnt here last  time
Rafghost2 [22k\]: me too
Ordiac [8k\]: i thought i saw it but your sequences , well
])))
(;B[ji]CR[ji]
;W[dd]CR[dd]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: new opening hiknoko
]
;B[ij]CR[ij]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[sephio [10k?\]: over tengen? ;D
]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[jk]CR[jk]C[Ordiac [8k\]: aaargh
sephio [10k?\]: rofl
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[sephio [10k?\]: i hat this :)
hoppla [6k\]: hm
hiknoko [27k\]: yes i know
sephio [10k?\]: but
Ordiac [8k\]: no way
sephio [10k?\]: white paly s better
Rafghost2 [22k\]: funny
sephio [10k?\]: haha
sephio [10k?\]: lol
sume [4k?\]: you can't
Scribe [-\]: student is too weak at fighting
Ordiac [8k\]: w fall in beaty trap
sk00 [16k\]: how?
ouigkmy [16k\]: black knows how to use influence and is good fighter
tablescrap [8k?\]: w should not use 4-4
sephio [10k?\]: best move for black is resign ;D
rayen [6k\]: b overconcentrated ^^
])
(;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[oo]CR[oo]C[AkiraTohya [-\]: but w is has sente
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[qe]CR[qe]C[hiknoko [27k\]: 5 point is too high
]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[oj]CR[oj]C[ouigkmy [16k\]: wow
]
(;B[ko]CR[ko]C[Vanya [11k\]: computer's game?
sk00 [16k\]: ???????????????
hiknoko [27k\]: jeez
hiknoko [27k\]: why on the five point?
sephio [10k?\]: rfol
Rafghost2 [22k\]: 5-5 at the beginning?
sephio [10k?\]: schokobot and simplebpt? ;)
hiknoko [27k\]: yea thats whati was wondering
sephio [10k?\]: bot*
Rafghost2 [22k\]: He must be very confident
Ordiac [8k\]: i would like b here
])
(;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[hiknoko [27k\]: i like whiteway more
]
;W[nr]CR[nr]C[Scribe [-\]: Two 6p players
hiknoko [27k\]: hm
]))
(;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;AW[ga][hd][fe][ef]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework
Scribe [-\]: White to play
fringd [9k\]: a18
sk00 [16k\]: and kill?
Rafghost2 [22k\]: e18?
Hu [13k?\]: Yay for thinking!
Rafghost2 [22k\]: e17 sorry
])
(;AB[jj]C[kooler [28k?\]: did you here me yell think?
Ordiac [8k\]: i played like this
]
;B[]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Ordiac [8k\]: but maybe better on L12
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[dj]CR[dj])
(;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[Hu [13k?\]: dezomb and sum play like this.
Ordiac [8k\]: yeah
Ordiac [8k\]: looks like they play :)
Hu [13k?\]: Thinking and imagination are good for Go.
hiknoko [27k\]: i like go
Hu [13k?\]: Thank you!
sk00 [16k\]: thx
guojuan [5p\]: I am here :)
guojuan [5p\]: thanks
agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much !
Rafghost2 [22k\]: thank you too
xDarigaaz [7k?\]: thank you
wholeboard [7k\]: thank you
kooler [28k?\]: well by playing farther away from oppnent earns you more territory
jjermann [19k\]: thanks
BSY [12k\]: thanks
pel [9k?\]: thnak you mingjuiu
vachu [7k\]: thx
Ordiac [8k\]: thx could you set position back to homework ?
rodimos [20k\]: thank you
Rafghost2 [22k\]: bye
hansili [10k\]: thank you
hiknoko [27k\]: thank you very VERY MUCH!
reed338 [?\]: thanks, fun lecture
kooler [28k?\]: ok
rayen [6k\]: thank you
jjermann [19k\]: bye
]))
