(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
PW[White]PB[Black]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2006-06-25]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[xDarigaaz [7k?\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Guo Juan
jjermann [19k\]: hi
Hu [13k?\]: Howdy guojuan.  Sound is good.
areal [12k\]: hello
agui [6k?\]: Hello
rayen [6k\]: some ^^
ouigkmy [16k\]: i live in the netherlands
ouigkmy [16k\]: but i don't watch football
ouigkmy [16k\]: :\]
Vanya [11k\]: hello
]
(;B[qd]CR[qd]C[kooler [28k?\]: I find go owns football
]
(;W[od]CR[od]C[BarakYacov [14k\]: there's only in japan right?
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: Shape from one of last week's game
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]C[rayen [6k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
]
(;W[]C[kooler [28k?\]: no
sk00 [16k\]: thx
kooler [28k?\]: china and korea
hiknoko [27k\]: nope
Hu [13k?\]: Please take your discussion somewhere else and not interrupt the lecture, kooler, hiknoko.
reed338 [?\]: yes
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: yup
weee [12k\]: so who want that game ?
sk00 [16k\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: so far, this is clear
Rafghost2 [22k\]: like the water
BarakYacov [14k\]: there is no insei programs in japan?
agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much for your work on this  !!!
]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
(;W[md]CR[md]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
(;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Scribe [-\]: Black has two follow ups to this joseki: o15 to press White down and develop the right side and J17 to attack severely at n17
]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[nd]CR[nd])
(;W[]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Scribe [-\]: white loses points AND eyeshape
Scribe [-\]: White has weak group
]
;B[]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[sb]CR[sb]C[kooler [28k?\]: not
Rafghost2 [22k\]: no
]
(;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[pa]CR[pa]C[agui [6k?\]: yes , only one
])
(;W[qa]CR[qa]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ra]CR[ra]C[Scribe [-\]: possible eye in ko for white
])))
(;W[kd]CR[kd]C[kooler [28k?\]: it seems whites going to be traped or killed in the last formation
agui [6k?\]: yes
Vanya [11k\]: M16 
rayen [6k\]: M16 
jjermann [19k\]: M16
]
;B[ld]CR[ld]C[agui [6k?\]: push and hane
]
;W[le]CR[le]C[hiknoko [27k\]: m16
]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[me]CR[me]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Vanya [11k\]: yes
]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [-\]: from last week
Ordiac [8k\]: yep i remember
Scribe [-\]: remember this !
]
;AW[lq]AB[dp][fp][jq]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
(;B[ip]CR[ip])
(;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Hu [13k?\]: Push-hane-atari-cut-kill
jjermann [19k\]: J4
reed338 [?\]: push
agui [6k?\]: push
rayen [6k\]: J4 
]
;W[ip]CR[ip]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: j4
]
;B[io]CR[io]LB[ho:A][jo:B]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[jo]CR[jo]C[Scribe [-\]: this push according to theory....push when the push does not damage white liberty...create cutting points when possible without damaging self
]
;B[in]CR[in]
;W[kp]CR[kp])))
(;W[ld]CR[ld]C[Vanya [11k\]: N16 ?
rayen [6k\]: :D
Scribe [-\]: N16 normal, L16 fundamental error, M16 extremely rare move
agui [6k?\]: O:
Vanya [11k\]: i mean for black
Scribe [-\]: once in 36,000 professional games per database search
]
;B[md]CR[md]C[kooler [28k?\]: 7 dan sweet
Ordiac [8k\]: lol thx :)
]
;W[me]CR[me]
(;B[kb]CR[kb]LB[mb:3][lc:4][nc:2][nd:1]C[kooler [28k?\]: a pro eh
Rafghost2 [22k\]: yes
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: yup
Vanya [11k\]: sure
fringd [9k\]: uh huh
hiknoko [27k\]: yyyeeesss
sume [4k?\]: yes
]
(;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[kooler [28k?\]: n14
Vanya [11k\]: J18 
hiknoko [27k\]: White dead in corner
pel [9k?\]: :)
]
(;B[le]CR[le]
;W[mf]CR[mf]C[sk00 [16k\]: M15
]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[ja]CR[ja]
(;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[mb]CR[mb])
(;B[ob]CR[ob])
(;B[nb]CR[nb]
(;W[]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[kg]CR[kg])
(;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[qb]CR[qb])
(;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[oa]CR[oa])
(;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[na]CR[na]
;B[ma]CR[ma]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
(;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[pb]CR[pb])
(;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[nc]CR[nc])))))
(;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[ja]CR[ja]
(;B[nb]CR[nb]C[kooler [28k?\]: I don't get homework
Vanya [11k\]: N14 
kooler [28k?\]: atari ladder same thing
agui [6k?\]: Good job !
Cornak [12k?\]: sorry, who wins the race here?
Rafghost2 [22k\]: black
Cornak [12k?\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Guojuan
Scribe [-\]: Thank to the Ing Goe Foundation
agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much for this good job !
ouigkmy [16k\]: thank you for the lesson
seidelin [9k\]: thanks for teaching us
]
(;W[]C[Scribe [-\]: atari at n13 prevents/breaks the ladder
]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[mf]CR[mf]C[Scribe [-\]: now very hard for white
]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[kf]CR[kf]C[rayen [6k\]: no
hiknoko [27k\]: no
maketa: no
]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[kg]CR[kg]C[hiknoko [27k\]: atari
])
(;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[oc]CR[oc]C[kooler [28k?\]: america made name ladder because of the game company atari
]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
(;W[pb]LB[oa:1][pa:2][qb:3]TR[ob][pb][pc][qc]C[Vanya [11k\]: R19 ?
sume [4k?\]: r19
hiknoko [27k\]: atari is different from ladder
sk00 [16k\]: s18
baian [3k\]: p 19
Ordiac [8k\]: s18
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: s18
rayen [6k\]: P19 
]
(;B[rb]CR[rb]C[Scribe [-\]: basic shape of four white stines
])
(;B[qa]CR[qa])
(;B[oa]CR[oa]C[hiknoko [27k\]: p19
Scribe [-\]: BEST
kooler [28k?\]: whites dead
]))
(;W[rb]CR[rb]C[Vanya [11k\]: Q18 
hiknoko [27k\]: q18
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: q18 =)
rayen [6k\]: Q18 
rodimos [20k\]: q18
Rafghost2 [22k\]: q18
]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oa]CR[oa]C[Scribe [-\]: Black lived
Scribe [-\]: white dead
Scribe [-\]: liberty count very important in semeai
Scribe [-\]: gain an eye in semeai very valuable
jjermann [19k\]: if black has an eye the neighbouring liberties count for black and not for the eyless group
Ordiac [8k\]: nah thx
kooler [28k?\]: sometimes you don't capture stones beacause their dead in the end
]))
(;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: BEST
Scribe [-\]: quickly reduce white to only two liberties
])
(;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[qb]CR[qb]TR[nb][ob][mc][oc][pc][qc][md][nd][od]SQ[kb][lb]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: 3
sk00 [16k\]: 3
ouigkmy [16k\]: p17 is a weaker group
kooler [28k?\]: attack the stone
fringd [9k\]: looking at m17?
Scribe [-\]: the stones at m18 and L18 have nothing to do with the fight in the top right
Scribe [-\]: capturing them will not save the white stones
hiknoko [27k\]: yyyyyeeeeeessssssss
ouigkmy [16k\]: yes
areal [12k\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: yes :)
agui [6k?\]: yes
rodimos [20k\]: yes
Rafghost2 [22k\]: white can't win the semeai so he leave, right?
tibra [18k?\]: yes
Vanya [11k\]: yes
sume [4k?\]: yup
]
(;W[na]CR[na]C[hiknoko [27k\]: White can kill black
agui [6k?\]: take away a liberty
]
;B[ma]CR[ma]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
(;W[lc]CR[lc]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: 2
]
;B[pb]CR[pb]C[hiknoko [27k\]: 2
])
(;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[nc]CR[nc]))
(;W[ka]CR[ka]))))
(;B[ob]CR[ob]))
(;B[nb]CR[nb]))
(;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[lc]CR[lc]LB[kd:A])
(;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[lb]CR[lb]))
(;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[nd]LB[nd:1]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Vanya [11k\]: M18 
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: m18 =)
nitram1 [7k\]: m17
sume [4k?\]: m18
sk00 [16k\]: m17
Pasukaru [8k\]: n18
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: n18
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: m17
]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[mb]CR[mb]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: n18
sk00 [16k\]: cut
sk00 [16k\]: yes
kirkbobic [10k\]: yes
jjermann [19k\]: yes
Cornak [12k?\]: yes
areal [12k\]: yes
reed338 [?\]: yes
hiknoko [27k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes very clear , thanks
Vanya [11k\]: yes
])))
(;W[ke]CR[ke]))
(;AB[dd]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: yes
rayen [6k\]: jujo`s wife :)
hiknoko [27k\]: wow
kooler [28k?\]: meijein is cool to bad we don't have meijein
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]C[hiknoko [27k\]: is there a eal meijin title?
hiknoko [27k\]: *real
]
(;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[ja]CR[ja]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[ie]CR[ie]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[kh]CR[kh])
(;AW[cg][cj]TR[ic]C[Jefia [13k\]: yeah
kooler [28k?\]: meijein means the undisputed best player
hiknoko [27k\]: o
]
(;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[fc]CR[fc])
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[kooler [28k?\]: I here janice kim 3 dan is good at go
hiknoko [27k\]: she wrote 2 books i tihnk
]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
(;W[md]CR[md]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[kb]CR[kb])
(;W[ld]CR[ld]C[kooler [28k?\]: she teaches go in every monthly shonen jump here in america
hiknoko [27k\]: yeah
]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]C[seidelin [9k\]: maybe i will just avoid playing that move then
]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[ib]CR[ib]C[kooler [28k?\]: to bad theres no insei programs in america
]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[ja]CR[ja]
;W[of]CR[of]C[hiknoko [27k\]: ther isnt 
hiknoko [27k\]: realy?
]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[mg]CR[mg]C[kooler [28k?\]: nopr
]
;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[id]CR[id]C[kooler [28k?\]: **nope
]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[ie]CR[ie]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[hiknoko [27k\]: that sux
kooler [28k?\]: aga is cheap
]
;W[kh]CR[kh]))))
(;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[lc]CR[lc]))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[po]CR[po]
(;B[mp]CR[mp]C[sume [4k?\]: yes
weee [12k\]: no
ouigkmy [16k\]: no
kooler [28k?\]: yes
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: i never =/
Rafghost2 [22k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
seidelin [9k\]: yes
]
(;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[pr]CR[pr]C[kooler [28k?\]: how hard is it to play triple ko?
Ordiac [8k\]: sure never try to win a ko
]
(;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[fringd [9k\]: black?
sume [4k?\]: no
agui [6k?\]: q1
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: no you're right =)
pel [9k?\]: there are no kothreats in the beginning of the game
sk00 [16k\]: Q1
]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]LB[qr:1]
;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[jp]CR[jp]LB[mp:2][fq:1]C[Scribe [-\]: someone said this game was easy ?
]
(;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Vanya [11k\]: not
idigo [4k\]: not good shape
areal [12k\]: bad
cynewulf [7k?\]: bad
weee [12k\]: no 
Scribe [-\]: j3 is a bad move
areal [12k\]: makes w stronger
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: stenghen k4?
cynewulf [7k?\]: black is pushing from behind now
weee [12k\]: b can kill
jantiff [?\]: white splits with good shape
fringd [9k\]: too close?
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: strenghten*
idigo [4k\]: it is like j3, k4, then black tenuki
Vanya [11k\]: left b group became weak
kirkbobic [10k\]: it´s like dont answering shoulder hit
kooler [28k?\]: no
areal [12k\]: no :)
seidelin [9k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: yes please
areal [12k\]: yes
pel [9k?\]: sure 
kirkbobic [10k\]: yes
bplayer55 [10k\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: ya
kooler [28k?\]: yes
]
(;B[oo]CR[oo]C[Vanya [11k\]: what about K2 after K4 ?
Scribe [-\]: j3 touches weak stone and induces white to strengthen it. and weaken the lower right black group
]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[im]CR[im]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[lm]CR[lm]
;B[kn]CR[kn]
;W[km]CR[km]
;B[in]CR[in]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[jm]CR[jm]
;W[jl]CR[jl]
;B[jn]CR[jn]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[il]CR[il]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[lq]CR[lq]
;W[lr]CR[lr]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[ms]CR[ms]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[js]CR[js]
;W[ks]CR[ks]
;B[is]CR[is]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[lo]CR[lo]
;W[gk]CR[gk]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[ek]CR[ek]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[dk]CR[dk])
(;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[jo]CR[jo]C[Scribe [-\]: two black groups, neither one alive, have them live separately rather than fighting with each other over the bottom area
]))
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[mm]CR[mm])
(;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[jo]CR[jo]C[xDarigaaz [7k?\]: why not K6 for black?
seidelin [9k\]: =)
playm8 [6k?\]: living apart together? ^^
Cornak [12k?\]: yes, nice analogy.
agui [6k?\]: yes thanks
ouigkmy [16k\]: yes, excellent explanation :\]
]))
(;B[ps]CR[ps]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[mr]CR[mr]
(;W[qk]CR[qk])
(;W[rr]CR[rr]C[sk00 [16k\]: oh
])))
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
(;B[qr]CR[qr])
(;B[eo]CR[eo]C[Scribe [-\]: proper move
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: ok
ouigkmy [16k\]: yes, thanks :\]
sk00 [16k\]: yes
pel [9k?\]: mm
Vanya [11k\]: whay about lower left corner?
fringd [9k\]: yes, i see it
Scribe [-\]: r2, in main line, is wasted move
agui [6k?\]: Yes very clear thanks !
jantiff [?\]: yes nice tewari
Scribe [-\]: Before you start a ko, verify that you have ko threats
Scribe [-\]: then count the ko threats
Vanya [11k\]: yes
sk00 [16k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: yes
playm8 [6k?\]: but it's very hard to see how many ko-threats you and your opponent have
])))
(;B[qq]CR[qq]))
(;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]C[BSY [12k\]: no
]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[Cornak [12k?\]: yes... there's a defect at P3 , i think...
]
;B[or]CR[or]C[areal [12k\]: yes, my opponent played it in my last game ^^
]
;W[qk]CR[qk]LB[mp:A][np:B]
;B[]
(;W[op]CR[op]C[Rafghost2 [22k\]: why black plays p2?
])
(;W[kq]CR[kq]LB[mp:A][np:B])))
(;B[np]CR[np]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[qk]CR[qk])
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[so]CR[so])))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[pel [9k?\]: no soccer! :D
]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[dd]CR[dd]C[seidelin [9k\]: great topic
]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [-\]: football on tivo....guojuan LIVE
Scribe [-\]: two one dan players
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
Scribe [-\]: b10 WRONG
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [-\]: c10 WRONG
jantiff [?\]: can w E4 and cut ?
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [-\]: too close to Black thickness
agui [6k?\]: C7
]
(;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Scribe [-\]: black very strong shape, white walks in second line...very bad
Scribe [-\]: c7 WRONG
fringd [9k\]: close to wall!
pel [9k?\]: close to thickness
cynewulf [7k?\]: too close to thickness
areal [12k\]: coming close to b's wal
bplayer55 [10k\]: close to thickness
Vanya [11k\]: to close to rhickness
Hu [13k?\]: Too close to strength
jantiff [?\]: approaching strength
ouigkmy [16k\]: plays close to thivkness
fringd [9k\]: play c14
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: c13 available
]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: find the White mistake
]
(;W[bo]CR[bo]LB[cj:B][cp:A]C[Scribe [-\]: b5 WRONG
cynewulf [7k?\]: two brothers
playm8 [6k?\]: brothers shop in same street
Hu [13k?\]: Forces B to get strong.
jantiff [?\]: hurts the outside
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: weaken one of the two groups
seidelin [9k\]: corner is alive
Rafghost2 [22k\]: black attack in b6
bplayer55 [10k\]: hurt c10 group
]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[cn]CR[cn]LB[cj:A]TR[ap][aq][bq][cq]C[Pilsun [11k\]: c7
idigo [4k\]: b5 seems like the big one
cynewulf [7k?\]: c10, b5
bplayer55 [10k\]: g3
Vanya [11k\]: to w stones became weak
agui [6k?\]: too close to thickness
Scribe [-\]: b5 hurts the c7 and c10 stones
Scribe [-\]: white b7 now ?
])
(;W[ej]CR[ej]C[Scribe [-\]: CORRECT
Cornak [12k?\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: yes
playm8 [6k?\]: what should black do now?
]
;B[eh]CR[eh]C[playm8 [6k?\]: keep pressure, thx
Cornak [12k?\]: oh no ...
FRaiSoo [8k?\]: yes
playm8 [6k?\]: yes
areal [12k\]: yes
Ordiac [8k\]: yep
Vanya [11k\]: yes, thanks
pel [9k?\]: yup
Cornak [12k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: yes it is
fringd [9k\]: yes, thank you
Micke [4k\]: yes
tibra [18k?\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: Yes very clear ,  Thanks
hansili [10k\]: very clear
jantiff [?\]: thanks for the good teaching
])
(;W[em]CR[em]))
(;W[cg]CR[cg]C[playm8 [6k?\]: can't make territory near thickness
]))
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[fc]CR[fc])))
