(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-05-14]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Gaijin [17k\]: needs follow up if goona play
Scribe [-\]: New Homework !
Kanako16 [25k\]: homework?!
]
(;B[na]CR[na]
;W[ob]CR[ob]C[rakdver [6k\]: hello
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[mb]CR[mb]C[Ciovo [8k?\]: hi
]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[md]CR[md]C[agui [7k?\]: Hello
]
;W[me]CR[me]C[LT [12k?\]: hello
]
;B[ld]CR[ld]C[isshinryu [14k\]: hi
]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[kd]CR[kd]C[Forou [?\]: this problem is impossible..
]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[jd]CR[jd]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: hello
pel [10k\]: :)
FRaiSoo [9k\]: hi
Ciovo [8k?\]: yess
SitaRam [2d?\]: yes
agui [7k?\]: yes
FRaiSoo [9k\]: yes
Myshkin [18k\]: Yes
Shikasta [15k\]: hi
Vanya [11k\]: yes
rakdver [6k\]: yes
Codexus [15k\]: hello :)
Ogakusei [14k\]: yes
isshinryu [14k\]: yes
fu [15k?\]: hello
Worthless [6k?\]: Yes/
Forou [?\]: hi and yes 
xDarigaaz [8k\]: Hi yes
Scribe [-\]: Nihao
grossebaf [4k?\]: hi mingjiu
Kevintju [-\]: hi
SILD [5k\]: hi
troll [2k\]: good morning
]
;B[]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;AW[hc][ic][ie]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework from last week
kaila [5k?\]: k18
Scribe [-\]: Homework from two weeks ago
gotobigo [?\]: K18 kills
Scribe [-\]: White to play
Forou [?\]: m19 and k18 looks like miai
Forou [?\]: I couldnt solve it :(
Repacse [12k\]: white kills
kaila [5k?\]: k18
SitaRam [2d?\]: b dead
Vanya [11k\]: ko
kaila [5k?\]: no ko
kaila [5k?\]: k18
Forou [?\]: It is very hard!
Forou [?\]: impossible :(
]
;B[]C[Blackstorm [9k\]: ops ^^
Scribe [-\]: again m19 is key point
SitaRam [2d?\]: k18
Vanya [11k\]: K19 
napster [?\]: L19*
]
(;W[kb]CR[kb]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: alive
agui [7k?\]: m18
Forou [?\]: black plays k18
isshinryu [14k\]: l18
Hoshiman [7k\]: m18?
kaila [5k?\]: m18
Forou [?\]: k18 makes seki..
SILD [5k\]: m18 is ko
Blackstorm [9k\]: m 18
SitaRam [2d?\]: k18
napster [?\]: L10
]
(;B[lb]CR[lb]C[mpu [-\]: M19 
Hoshiman [7k\]: I think m18 works
SitaRam [2d?\]: no
agui [7k?\]: yes
Hoshiman [7k\]: maby
Vanya [11k\]: M19 
]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[SILD [5k\]: its ko
]
;B[mc]CR[mc]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: ko
]
;W[la]CR[la]C[SILD [5k\]: like i said
SILD [5k\]: ^^
Scribe [-\]: creates ko
]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[ja]CR[ja])
(;B[la]CR[la]C[capt [2k?\]: m19 seems to be a good point ;)
]
(;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[mc]CR[mc])
(;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[jb]CR[jb])))
(;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Forou [?\]: black k18
agui [7k?\]: L18
Vanya [11k\]: K18 
Blackstorm [9k\]: k 18
SitaRam [2d?\]: m19
SitaRam [2d?\]: yeah
Forou [?\]: if white plays m19 black can play k18..
]
(;B[jb]CR[jb]C[Forou [?\]: black k18, white m19, black n17
]
;W[la]CR[la]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Forou [?\]: ah right that first:)
Hoshiman [7k\]: seki
]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ja]CR[ja])
(;B[la]CR[la]
(;W[ka]CR[ka]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[ma]CR[ma]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: jo seki
]
;B[mc]CR[mc])
(;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[ka]CR[ka]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[ma]CR[ma]
;B[ja]CR[ja])))
(;W[jb]CR[jb]C[Blackstorm [9k\]: m 19
]
;B[la]CR[la]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: no
Blackstorm [9k\]: m1
])
(;W[ja]CR[ja]C[napster [?\]: L19
sajmon [11k\]: m19 first move
]
;B[la]CR[la]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: no
capt [2k?\]: m19
Forou [?\]: it is impossible -_-
AescCasper [9k\]: M19 
fu [15k?\]: w m19?
])
(;W[la]CR[la]C[Forou [?\]: white m19, black k18
Forou [?\]: black k18!!
Scribe [-\]: liberty at p19 allows seki
napster [?\]: L18 w?
Ciovo [8k?\]: what rank to solve this problem in about 5 min ... ?!
]
(;B[lb]CR[lb]C[napster [?\]: yes
fu [15k?\]: b L18
SILD [5k\]: no
AescCasper [9k\]: yes
]
;W[jb]CR[jb]C[Forou [?\]: bad...
Scribe [-\]: no eye on edge
])
(;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[ka]CR[ka]
;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Forou [?\]: bad...
Scribe [-\]: dead
FRaiSoo [9k\]: dead
])
(;B[jb]CR[jb]C[Hoshiman [7k\]: k18
agui [7k?\]: L18
Vanya [11k\]: K19? 
]
(;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Vanya [11k\]: clear
Forou [?\]: what if black plays 18j?
]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Scribe [-\]: seki again
]
(;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ja]CR[ja]LB[oa:A]C[Forou [?\]: impossible to kill ...
])
(;W[ja]CR[ja]C[Forou [?\]: instead of j19..
Vanya [11k\]: J18 
napster [?\]: J18
Scribe [-\]: must
]
(;B[ib]CR[ib])
(;B[ia]CR[ia]
;W[ib]CR[ib])))
(;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]C[Forou [?\]: ...
Dita [5k\]: hehe
Scribe [-\]: L18 is thank you move
napster [?\]: :)
])
(;W[ja]CR[ja]C[Forou [?\]: hmmm
Vanya [11k\]: 5 years
troll [2k\]: minutes
Dita [5k\]: hehe
FRaiSoo [9k\]: ...
LeFourBe [-\]: seem pretty difficult :)
Quinn [9k\]: i guess 4d ama
Forou [?\]: a little hehe...
Forou [?\]: okay :^_^
Dita [5k\]: yes plz! :D
Codexus [15k\]: yes :)
SILD [5k\]: ok
Repacse [12k\]: was that a kuy problem ?
napster [?\]: why no?
LeFourBe [-\]: to find it in a real game, even harder :)
]
(;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ka]CR[ka]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: ah
]
;W[lb]CR[lb])
(;B[ia]CR[ia]C[Forou [?\]: black j18?
]
;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Vanya [11k\]: L18 
]
(;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[ib]CR[ib])
(;B[mc]CR[mc]C[Scribe [-\]: after white k19 black must extend at j18
]
;W[ib]CR[ib]C[Forou [?\]: black dont play 19j!
Forou [?\]: but play black 18?
]))
(;B[ib]CR[ib]C[Forou [?\]: then what?
Vanya [11k\]: J18 
LeFourBe [-\]: L18 to ko
Vanya [11k\]: L18 
agui [7k?\]: H18
isshinryu [14k\]: m 18
]
(;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[kb]CR[kb]LB[ja:A][ib:B])
(;W[kb]CR[kb]
(;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: ko
Forou [?\]: hmmmm
])
(;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ia]CR[ia]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[mc]CR[mc]C[FRaiSoo [9k\]: lol.
]
;W[ha]CR[ha]C[Scribe [-\]: two step ko
napster [?\]: this is the answer?
Forou [?\]: 2 steb ko was the solution... ?
Vanya [11k\]: no
isshinryu [14k\]: nope
agui [7k?\]: no
])))))))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Gaijin [17k\]: seemes b kakari too distant in both corners
Blackstorm [9k\]: no
Dita [5k\]: hehe
Forou [?\]: no :)
Kevintju [-\]: lol
cynewulf [9k?\]: horrible :)
Forou [?\]: it is good :)
Codexus [15k\]: the only I'm sure is right :)
Ciovo [8k?\]: looks great!
Myshkin [18k\]: heh
Worthless [6k?\]: I could say it is :)
troll [2k\]: Q16, good feeling :p
Blackstorm [9k\]: mhhhh i think black don t want a hard pincer
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[Blackstorm [9k\]: < thinking
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[Forou [?\]: rank of players?
]
(;B[df]CR[df]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: stop
napster [?\]: no
Vanya [11k\]: it depends
Forou [?\]: look s a little weird.. but doesnt have to be bad?
Scribe [-\]: d14 is a light move, means that black wants to play fast
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Karamfil [15k\]: this is wrong
Gaijin [17k\]: ok, but think top left needs follow up
Karamfil [15k\]: other side better
SitaRam [2d?\]: f3 looks better
agui [7k?\]: ;)
Shikasta [15k\]: doesnt work well with d14
Ogakusei [14k\]: F3 better
SitaRam [2d?\]: f3
Karamfil [15k\]: F3 
Quinn [9k\]: f3
Karamfil [15k\]: yeah
Vanya [11k\]: C14 
quatschi [12k\]: Q9
napster [?\]: M4
Blackstorm [9k\]: i would response on the  joseki upper left because  c 15 makes  a big weak ness 
Karamfil [15k\]: than C14 
sajmon [11k\]: D10 is joseki, but I think it is a bit small
Quinn [9k\]: nadare
]
(;B[cn]CR[cn]LB[df:A]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: wrong
Vanya [11k\]: seem not good
napster [?\]: yes
Shikasta [15k\]: yes
SitaRam [2d?\]: wrong side
Codexus [15k\]: it feels like wrong direction to me
bigfish [?\]: good
Dita [5k\]: seems ok because D14 = light
capt [2k?\]: seems ok
Damir [8k\]: D10 attacks both vblack stones
bigfish [?\]: nah
agui [7k?\]: no
Myshkin [18k\]: no
Blackstorm [9k\]: mmhhhh
Scribe [-\]: onadare not nadare
Gaijin [17k\]: was hoping to make side I guess
]
(;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Forou [?\]: oh no think!
Scribe [-\]: Thirty move shown, then locate the mistakes
Scribe [-\]: c6 is a proper approach, d14 is light
Blackstorm [9k\]: c 15 produve a weak point or ?
troll [2k\]: no
agui [7k?\]: yes
Blackstorm [9k\]: no
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu does not like this pincer for white, black will develop and attempt to enclose
Scribe [-\]: better to pincer at d9 than to play d10
Gaijin [17k\]: how to deal with the fourth line in lower side?
]
(;B[fp]CR[fp]LB[dn:A][fo:B]C[Vanya [11k\]: wrong joseki
bigfish [?\]: d6
agui [7k?\]: F5
Worthless [6k?\]: Atttach, d6?
Vanya [11k\]: what about F4?
bigfish [?\]: d7
Janus37 [6k\]: d6 or f5
xDarigaaz [8k\]: D6 is joseki
Unesential [21k?\]: f5 ?
troll [2k\]: because of D10, I would lean with F5 to attack C6
Quinn [9k\]: and why nor e5?
Unesential [21k?\]: is it just territory or another eason?
]
(;W[eo]CR[eo]C[bigfish [?\]: no
SitaRam [2d?\]: no
Blackstorm [9k\]: 6 d
agui [7k?\]: no , F5
Forou [?\]: looks like an attemtp to split black in two
SitaRam [2d?\]: d6
Scribe [-\]: not joseki
Quinn [9k\]: why not?
Vanya [11k\]: what about F4, is it good or bad?
Forou [?\]: continue
]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[Quinn [9k\]: how can b punish?
Blackstorm [9k\]: c 15 produce a weak point or ?
Vanya [11k\]: what about F4? Is it a mistake? 
Guardian [19k\]: b
]
(;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Quinn [9k\]: b4?
Scribe [-\]: c3 punishes e5
Quinn [9k\]: c4?
Ciovo [8k?\]: C4
Quinn [9k\]: i mean
Javaness [4k\]: C4 looks better
Blackstorm [9k\]: c4
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[Gaijin [17k\]: that is better threat against c6
Dita [5k\]: D7
Vanya [11k\]: F5 
Scribe [-\]: how can white make nice shape here
Hoshiman [7k\]: why not f6
]
(;W[ep]CR[ep]C[Gaijin [17k\]: on question : how to follow that up?
troll [2k\]: ok
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[fo]CR[fo]C[Shikasta [15k\]: what if w f5
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]LB[cl:A]C[Dita [5k\]: noooo
agui [7k?\]: no
Vanya [11k\]: no
Forou [?\]: n..
Javaness [4k\]: white made an empty triangle
SitaRam [2d?\]: noo
Blackstorm [9k\]: mmhh yeah
bigfish [?\]: yup
Quinn [9k\]: ah ok
fu [15k?\]: looks like bad shape for w
Scribe [-\]: Black c8 is good play, easy to live
Scribe [-\]: when white makes e5 mistake, must play b3 in place of e4
Scribe [-\]: e4 empty triangle
Vanya [11k\]: D7 ?
SitaRam [2d?\]: ;-)
Gaijin [17k\]: thankyou move
]
(;W[de]CR[de]LB[cl:B][cn:A]
(;B[em]CR[em]C[Worthless [6k?\]: Wow.
Scribe [-\]: invites severe attack at c8
]
(;W[go]CR[go]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
(;W[gm]CR[gm]
(;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Scribe [-\]: white g5 is good push
]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[fk]CR[fk]
;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Vanya [11k\]: at last
Ciovo [8k?\]: now you prefer white or black?
SitaRam [2d?\]: no
mpu [-\]: yes
agui [7k?\]: no
Forou [?\]: white!!
bigfish [?\]: who won
Dita [5k\]: lol
troll [2k\]: what instead of E5?
suducodu [?\]: clear
Dita [5k\]: ok
Forou [?\]: okay ^_^
SILD [5k\]: ok
Kanako16 [25k\]: yay!
Kevintju [-\]: ok
Ciovo [8k?\]: thank you
Shikasta [15k\]: thxs
grossebaf [4k?\]: thx
Codexus [15k\]: homework \\o/
]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[cm]LB[dc:4][pd:1][ce:6][de:18][df:5][dj:8][ej:24][ck:27][dk:28][ek:23][fk:25][cl:26][dl:29][el:31][cm:32][dm:30][em:19][gm:22][cn:7][eo:10][fo:16][go:20][cp:12][dp:2][ep:14][fp:9][gp:17][hp:21][cq:11][dq:13][eq:15][pq:3]C[fu [15k?\]: E4 mistake... ?
Quinn [9k\]: e4 strange, d15 touches weak stone
Gaijin [17k\]: to star d14 doesnt accomplish much
Blackstorm [9k\]: e 4
mpu [-\]: no
Blackstorm [9k\]: but is d 14 normal ?
Scribe [-\]: d14 is group touch stone....punishes
Quinn [9k\]: 14 & 18 seem bad
gertzu [-\]: 9
SitaRam [2d?\]: 14 and 19 very strange
Karamfil [15k\]: 6 seems bad 
Unesential [21k?\]: 18 is odd
Blackstorm [9k\]: e 4 desrtoys aji 
Gaijin [17k\]: 14 better at f4?
Myshkin [18k\]: c3 hurts c6
troll [2k\]: I dislike 5,8,10
Dita [5k\]: I would play move 18 at 30
Vanya [11k\]: D10 seems not good, 8th move
Blackstorm [9k\]: 5 at 6 or ?
Blackstorm [9k\]: white e 4
Blackstorm [9k\]: one
troll [2k\]: among others
kaila [5k?\]: b makes more mistake than w
Repacse [12k\]: 7 is the wrong kakari
Damir [8k\]: i dislike 7
troll [2k\]: yes
Shikasta [15k\]: 7
Scribe [-\]: White is ahead at this point
Unesential [21k?\]: you saying 7 should be from the bottom instead?
])
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[bj]CR[bj]))
(;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [-\]: white attacks black
Scribe [-\]: bad shape for black now
]))
(;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [-\]: e7 bad move
]))
(;B[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [-\]: makes  base
Scribe [-\]: hard to fix white's shape after two mistakes
]
(;W[el]CR[el]
;B[bj]CR[bj]C[Scribe [-\]: proper move is c8 for black
SitaRam [2d?\]: b gets a base
])
(;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[el]CR[el]))
(;B[el]CR[el]C[Gaijin [17k\]: cut
])
(;B[go]CR[go]))
(;W[dm]CR[dm]C[Kerrick [16k?\]: b is on 4th line :-(
]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [-\]: Black gains more than White
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: pushing from behind
]
;W[co]CR[co]C[Scribe [-\]: White needs to play d7
Worthless [6k?\]: W is saturated...
])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: e5 is a handicap joseki at most
]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]C[Dita [5k\]: R15
])
(;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[ph]CR[ph]TR[nc]C[Javaness [4k\]: too soft
Scribe [-\]: handicap joseki
Quinn [9k\]: overconcentrated
Scribe [-\]: give up a little extra to get safe easier
]))
(;W[cl]CR[cl]
(;B[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [-\]: c8 key point
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[ge]CR[ge])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq])
(;B[go]CR[go]))
(;W[hn]CR[hn]C[Scribe [-\]: perhaps this is the move for white
])
(;W[cm]CR[cm]))
(;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[ep]CR[ep]C[Javaness [4k\]: i hate it
]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bq]CR[bq]C[Dita [5k\]: aha
Dita [5k\]: no
SitaRam [2d?\]: no
Blackstorm [9k\]: buth no
])
(;W[bq]CR[bq]C[SILD [5k\]: B3
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[Dita [5k\]: ahh
]
;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[dm]CR[dm]C[Scribe [-\]: proper move is b3 in place of e4
Forou [?\]: nice
Kacpergo [16k\]: why not f6 but d7?
]))
(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[dl]CR[dl]))
(;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[co]CR[co]C[Quinn [9k\]: not*
]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[bq]CR[bq]C[Unesential [21k?\]: it just looks odd
]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[el]CR[el]LB[ce:B][df:A]C[Unesential [21k?\]: easy cut
bigfish [?\]: bad fo W
agui [7k?\]: good for white
Unesential [21k?\]: but then, i'm a bad player so don't listen to me lol
Ciovo [8k?\]: quite sad for white, i think...
Vanya [11k\]: seems good for W
Scribe [-\]: joseki
Gaijin [17k\]: f4 in trouble
Blackstorm [9k\]: for whit not so nice or ~ ~
Worthless [6k?\]: Fine for both...
SitaRam [2d?\]: hm
agui [7k?\]: for white
Forou [?\]: good for black
Codexus [15k\]: i prefer black
bigfish [?\]: black
Quinn [9k\]: like b
Janus37 [6k\]: d10 well placed
Dita [5k\]: I dont know
Gaijin [17k\]: white has more potential
Javaness [4k\]: white's wall is poor
SitaRam [2d?\]: good for b
agui [7k?\]: good influence
Blackstorm [9k\]: right side is small 
Shikasta [15k\]: i like b
Blackstorm [9k\]: left
Forou [?\]: lOl
Blackstorm [9k\]: left side is small 
Forou [?\]: right.. white is connected all the way..
Quinn [9k\]: f4 doesnt look good, but black has sente
Forou [?\]: hmmm
bigfish [?\]: you er thicknesswhites  cou
Scribe [-\]: result is good for white
Kacpergo [16k\]: white can attack
Forou [?\]: I am changing mind ^_^
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu likes White
Scribe [-\]: d14 stone is misplaced
bigfish [?\]: who won
Unesential [21k?\]: acn someone tell me the advantage of position b for black?
Scribe [-\]: d14 should be at c15
Unesential [21k?\]: instead of a?
agui [7k?\]: yes thanks
Pilsun [12k\]: is white f5 joseki better?
Blackstorm [9k\]: yeah
]))
(;B[en]CR[en]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Dita [5k\]: G16 at F10?
]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[ee]CR[ee]C[Blackstorm [9k\]: agree
]
;B[ff]CR[ff]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: always
]
;W[gd]CR[gd]C[Unesential [21k?\]: Ican white try to wall down instead?
Worthless [6k?\]: Hardly...
Tanada [9k\]: yes 
Karamfil [15k\]: O.o
]
;B[fj]CR[fj]TR[dj]C[Dita [5k\]: no
SitaRam [2d?\]: no
Blackstorm [9k\]: no
Codexus [15k\]: no :)
Myshkin [18k\]: no
agui [7k?\]: noooo
Dita [5k\]: is G16 needed?
]))
(;W[fq]CR[fq]C[sajmon [11k\]: C14 
])
(;W[dk]CR[dk]))
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[bigfish [?\]: I wouldn't playd d14
FRaiSoo [9k\]: <c14 slow
])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki move
]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ef]CR[ef]C[Unesential [21k?\]: better if there was another black stone near d 10
]
;W[ee]CR[ee]C[fu [15k?\]: not equation.. equation must equal 0
]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[gd]CR[gd]TR[cf][df][ef][ff]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: yes
napster [?\]: no
Vanya [11k\]: a liitle
FRaiSoo [9k\]: no (_(
Myshkin [18k\]: no
bigfish [?\]: yes
agui [7k?\]: yes
Dita [5k\]: no :)
troll [2k\]: yes
Blackstorm [9k\]: still big for white
Ciovo [8k?\]: no
Quinn [9k\]: c9
Codexus [15k\]: 5 spaces
agui [7k?\]: C9
Unesential [21k?\]: c8?
Dita [5k\]: C6
]
(;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Shikasta [15k\]: d9
quatschi [12k\]: D9
Vanya [11k\]: D9 or C9 
Worthless [6k?\]: C9
Blackstorm [9k\]: no
SILD [5k\]: C8 
])
(;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Damir [8k\]: D8 
])
(;B[cl]CR[cl]TR[cg][ch][qh][ci][cj][ck][qk]C[Forou [?\]: d9
troll [2k\]: C6 or F3
Forou [?\]: oh
Karamfil [15k\]: C8 
FRaiSoo [9k\]: d9?
Scribe [-\]: proper extension
bigfish [?\]: D8
Ciovo [8k?\]: d8?
SitaRam [2d?\]: 4+1
LeFourBe [-\]: N+1 
Worthless [6k?\]: There's an equation for how far a stone shouuld be placed? :)
bigfish [?\]: 5 stones 5
Fibo [14k\]: is D8 ok?
Vanya [11k\]: what if N=19?
FRaiSoo [9k\]: ...
])
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[FRaiSoo [9k\]: to high?
Scribe [-\]: too close to thickness
Ciovo [8k?\]: d(?
napster [?\]: H15
]))
(;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Dita [5k\]: hehe
SitaRam [2d?\]: not reallly
Karamfil [15k\]: D15 better
Karamfil [15k\]: :)
Blackstorm [9k\]: no
Forou [?\]: lOl
Worthless [6k?\]: Unusual :)
Ciovo [8k?\]: K16?
SILD [5k\]: D15 
])
(;B[de]CR[de]C[bigfish [?\]: E15
Gaijin [17k\]: d15 connects
bigfish [?\]: I woldn't play d14
]
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [-\]: also joseki
]
;B[dj]CR[dj])
(;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[ec]CR[ec]C[Karamfil [15k\]: :)
]
;W[dg]CR[dg]C[Gaijin [17k\]: avalancher
Scribe [-\]: large avalanche
])))
(;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: now it is
]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[el]CR[el]
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: black can not connect d14 to lower left
Codexus [15k\]: ok
Unesential [21k?\]: what do you use a stone at d15 for for b?
Dita [5k\]: yes
SitaRam [2d?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: better to approach low at c15 then
agui [7k?\]: yes
Worthless [6k?\]: Clear.
]
;B[dk]CR[dk]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: understand
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: d14 becomes misplaced stone
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ej]CR[ej]C[SitaRam [2d?\]: ah
])
(;B[ce]CR[ce])
(;B[de]CR[de]C[Kacpergo [16k\]: no
Ciovo [8k?\]: this is better
])))
(;B[qd]CR[qd])
(;B[qa]CR[qa]C[Forou [?\]: as difficult as the last one?
]
;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Kacpergo [16k\]: homework?
Kevintju [-\]: thank you very much for the lesson!
]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Kanako16 [25k\]: i get enough from school x.x
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[lc]LB[pc:B][od:A]TR[mb][lc][nc][nd]C[napster [?\]: me either
suducodu [?\]: joseki
bigfish [?\]: you gave me htis problem
Unesential [21k?\]: white 's turn?
napster [?\]: moyu
kaila [5k?\]: w to play?
napster [?\]: :)
bigfish [?\]: hard
Javaness [4k\]: Black will kill
Kanako16 [25k\]: lol
Vanya [11k\]: black to die?
Forou [?\]: lOl
Forou [?\]: blacks turn :)
Javaness [4k\]: can we give the move?
Dita [5k\]: hehe
Scribe [-\]: Black to play
Forou [?\]: it is homework!
napster [?\]: T16?
Javaness [4k\]: oh i will wait till next week
Codexus [15k\]: no javaness, you have to think about it for a whole week :)
Forou [?\]: ^_^
Vanya [11k\]: T17, I suppose
Ciovo [8k?\]: thank you!!!!
Unesential [21k?\]: this one's hard =/
SitaRam [2d?\]: no
Forou [?\]: :)
Vanya [11k\]: no
suducodu [?\]: thank you 
Myshkin [18k\]: Thank you
bigfish [?\]: thanks
ACErose [28k\]: ty
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
Blackstorm [9k\]: thx
SitaRam [2d?\]: thx mingjiu
Unesential [21k?\]: thank you
Forou [?\]: thank you
xDarigaaz [8k\]: thank you
Dita [5k\]: thank you!!
strange [26k?\]: ok, thank you, will try
Vanya [11k\]: thank you for the lecture
Javaness [4k\]: thank you mingjiu
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
LT [12k?\]: thx
bigfish [?\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
Codexus [15k\]: thank you for the lesson ^_^
Kevintju [-\]: thank you very much
zelifor [-\]: thank you
Repacse [12k\]: thanks
Damir [8k\]: thanks
SitaRam [2d?\]: thx so much
Javaness [4k\]: thanks to kgs
Vanya [11k\]: see you
au2 [4k\]: Have a great week
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Laoshi
kirschi [14k\]: thanks
Ciovo [8k?\]: thanks a lot!
Javaness [4k\]: thanks to scribe
SitaRam [2d?\]: wish you the best
LOKInst [8k\]: thx
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to Ing Goe Foundation
napster [?\]: thx
agui [7k?\]: Thank you very much
mencke [13k\]: thx
au2 [4k\]: Thanks Scribe
Javaness [4k\]: thanks to homework
SitaRam [2d?\]: never
agui [7k?\]: See you
]))
