(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2006-04-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[kerem74 [22k\]: hi
scKevinjf [21k\]: yap
troll [2k\]: hello
troll [2k\]: yes
Firzen [16k\]: yeah hi
kerem74 [22k\]: yeah
xDarigaaz [8k\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: Hello Guo Juan
MRei [?\]: hello
kirkbobic [13k\]: hi yes
Vanya [9k?\]: yes
Imoto [10k?\]: hi // yes
xDarigaaz [8k\]: yes
jramon [14k\]: yes
scKevinjf [21k\]: ;)
clemi [?\]: hello !
kerem74 [22k\]: nice to hear you!
Bodo212 [15k\]: hello
clemi [?\]: so nice of him to teach us still !
Forou [?\]: :)
Firzen [16k\]: @Forou no, but it's not best in this situation
]
(;AW[cc][fc][dd][od][qd]AB[bd][cf][ci]LB[hc:A][ic:B][jc:C][kc:D][lc:E][mc:F]C[Scribe [-\]: Black to play on the top side
Scribe [-\]: Black must invade
puzi [9k\]: h17
Forou [?\]: n17
Forou [?\]: F
scKevinjf [21k\]: N17 
Scribe [-\]: the Question is where  to invade
puzi [9k\]: A
zee [11k\]: F
scKevinjf [21k\]: f
Firzen [16k\]: I'd say f
clemi [?\]: B
kerem74 [22k\]: D
reed338 [17k?\]: D
MRei [?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
jramon [14k\]: D or F
puzi [9k\]: A
mallow [-\]: F
ruger [15k?\]: D
Vanya [9k?\]: d
Scribe [-\]: This is a basic matter
Scribe [-\]: aka fundamental
Blackstorm [10k\]: black to play ?
Firzen [16k\]: yes
Blackstorm [10k\]: thx :P
Scribe [-\]: Black does not have space to make eyes when Black plays at h17, j17, or k17
]
(;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: many reach 1, 2, or 3 dan and then are stuck for years..the reason is a lack of fundementals
])
(;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[kc]CR[kc])
(;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Sencha [?\]: hi wook 
Blackstorm [10k\]: so L 17 ??
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[hc]CR[hc])
(;B[kc]CR[kc]C[Forou [?\]: but it is not bad?
Scribe [-\]: L17 is besty
Blackstorm [10k\]: ok
Firzen [16k\]: yes
whendrik [14k\]: Yep
scKevinjf [21k\]: *nod*
kirkbobic [13k\]: yes
Forou [?\]: n17 isnt bad or ?!
Vanya [9k?\]: clear
EfeCan [24k\]: yes
]
(;W[ic]CR[ic]C[scKevinjf [21k\]: O17 
Blackstorm [10k\]: o 17
zeroblue42 [15k\]: O17 
Forou [?\]: o17
Firzen [16k\]: O17?
kerem74 [22k\]: o17
reed338 [17k?\]: o17
jramon [14k\]: O17
MRei [?\]: n17
Zark [3k\]: p18
clemi [?\]: K15 then ?
Scribe [-\]: play on the door line at p18 this is critical
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[joshiva [4k\]: P18
Brodersen [14k?\]: O 16
Vanya [9k?\]: o16
Forou [?\]: hmmm
Bodo212 [15k\]: nice !!
ozakin [18k?\]: yep ^^
Scribe [-\]: door is slammed in our face
reed338 [17k?\]: lol
kerem74 [22k\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: ouch !
Forou [?\]: yeah ^_^
Blackstorm [10k\]: *nose broken *
LT [12k?\]: fine explanation
Firzen [16k\]: why doesn't white answer P18 with N18?
])
(;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Forou [?\]: xD
]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[mc]CR[mc]C[Scribe [-\]: white makes more territory on the left 
]))
(;W[mc]CR[mc]C[Forou [?\]: black could take the corner then firz
kerem74 [22k\]: yes
clemi [?\]: very clear now
MRei [?\]: yeah
scKevinjf [21k\]: yes
kirkbobic [13k\]: yes
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]C[Firzen [16k\]: k thx
Scribe [-\]: room to make a base
Forou [?\]: yeah
Bodo212 [15k\]: ok
ozakin [18k?\]: ok
]))
(;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[pc]CR[pc])
(;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: this move attacks white corner
Scribe [-\]: but the corner is stronger than black's 
]
;B[me]CR[me]))
(;AW[qc][dd][nd][pd]AB[rd][qf][qi]LB[dd:B][nd:A]C[Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
][Forou [?\]: hmmmm
scKevinjf [21k\]: F17 
EfeCan [24k\]: L16
reed338 [17k?\]: f17
Forou [?\]: f17 ^_^
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
reed338 [17k?\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
ozakin [18k?\]: f
mallow [-\]: D
MRei [?\]: a
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
kerem74 [22k\]: d
zee [11k\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: d
gkmm [10k?\]: D
Brodersen [14k?\]: D
EfeCan [24k\]: F
puzi [9k\]: G
ruger [15k?\]: D
Imoto [10k?\]: D
ivanho [9k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade the top this time
Vanya [9k?\]: a
clemi [?\]: D again lol...
Firzen [16k\]: b?
erokay [-\]: C
Scribe [-\]: What is the name of the exercise book ?
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]LB[gc:B][kc:A][lc:C]C[Scribe [-\]: J17 is the best move
Scribe [-\]: black has two ways to make a base
Scribe [-\]: either m17 or f17
ozakin [18k?\]: hmm
Scribe [-\]: every stone needs a base
zeroblue42 [15k\]: B
kerem74 [22k\]: b
scKevinjf [21k\]: B
whendrik [14k\]: A
Brodersen [14k?\]: A
Firzen [16k\]: B
Zark [3k\]: L17
Pheodax [21k?\]: B
mallow [-\]: L17
puzi [9k\]: A
kirkbobic [13k\]: A
alarique [12k\]: B
jramon [14k\]: A
Forou [?\]: B..
JeffAmid [-\]: a
LT [12k?\]: l17
agui [7k\]: L17
ozakin [18k?\]: b
ivanho [9k\]: B
clemi [?\]: B 
reed338 [17k?\]: A
MRei [?\]: b
Scribe [-\]: Where should White respond to Black's invasion ??
Vanya [9k?\]: A
whendrik [14k\]: A
SILD [6k\]: a
puzi [9k\]: L17
mallow [-\]: A
Lynn: A
zee [11k\]: A
kerem74 [22k\]: B
reed338 [17k?\]: A
alarique [12k\]: B
Firzen [16k\]: B
Pheodax [21k?\]: B
scKevinjf [21k\]: A
Kennabee [6k\]: B
LT [12k?\]: A
JeffAmid [-\]: a
agui [7k\]: A
Forou [?\]: A
Scribe [-\]: even if White closes one door in the upper left there is still another door open
EfeCan [24k\]: srdr:yes
][Scribe [-\]: J17 is the best move
Scribe [-\]: black has two ways to make a base
Scribe [-\]: either m17 or f17
ozakin [18k?\]: hmm
Scribe [-\]: every stone needs a base
zeroblue42 [15k\]: B
kerem74 [22k\]: b
scKevinjf [21k\]: B
whendrik [14k\]: A
Brodersen [14k?\]: A
Firzen [16k\]: B
Zark [3k\]: L17
Pheodax [21k?\]: B
mallow [-\]: L17
puzi [9k\]: A
kirkbobic [13k\]: A
alarique [12k\]: B
jramon [14k\]: A
Forou [?\]: B..
JeffAmid [-\]: a
LT [12k?\]: l17
agui [7k\]: L17
][Scribe [-\]: J17 is the best move
Scribe [-\]: black has two ways to make a base
Scribe [-\]: either m17 or f17
ozakin [18k?\]: hmm
Scribe [-\]: every stone needs a base
zeroblue42 [15k\]: B
kerem74 [22k\]: b
scKevinjf [21k\]: B
whendrik [14k\]: A
Brodersen [14k?\]: A
Firzen [16k\]: B
Zark [3k\]: L17
Pheodax [21k?\]: B
mallow [-\]: L17
puzi [9k\]: A
kirkbobic [13k\]: A
alarique [12k\]: B
jramon [14k\]: A
Forou [?\]: B..
JeffAmid [-\]: a
LT [12k?\]: l17
agui [7k\]: L17
][Scribe [-\]: J17 is the best move
Scribe [-\]: black has two ways to make a base
Scribe [-\]: either m17 or f17
ozakin [18k?\]: hmm
Scribe [-\]: every stone needs a base
zeroblue42 [15k\]: B
kerem74 [22k\]: b
scKevinjf [21k\]: B
whendrik [14k\]: A
Brodersen [14k?\]: A
Firzen [16k\]: B
Zark [3k\]: L17
Pheodax [21k?\]: B
mallow [-\]: L17
puzi [9k\]: A
kirkbobic [13k\]: A
alarique [12k\]: B
jramon [14k\]: A
Forou [?\]: B..
JeffAmid [-\]: a
LT [12k?\]: l17
agui [7k\]: L17
]
(;W[kc]LB[fc:A][cf:B]TR[kc][qc][nd][pd]C[ruger [15k?\]: A
puzi [9k\]: close the door :D
Scribe [-\]: L17 is correct for White
Scribe [-\]: White shape in to top right is very efficient
whendrik [14k\]: Yep
Firzen [16k\]: yes totaly
Vanya [9k?\]: sure
MRei [?\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
Pheodax [21k?\]: Yes, very.
reed338 [17k?\]: yes maam
kerem74 [22k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: yes
clemi [?\]: it all makes good sense 
kirkbobic [13k\]: fine
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [-\]: stones that have to run damage the rest of the board
]
;W[cf]CR[cf])
(;W[gc]CR[gc]C[Scribe [-\]: White should close the door
]
;B[lc]CR[lc]))
(;AE[qc][nd][rd][qf][qi]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qi]CR[qi])
(;W[nd]CR[nd]
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[cf]CR[cf]TR[kc][nd][pd]C[kirkbobic [13k\]: r17
Blackstorm [10k\]: sansan
]
(;B[rd]CR[rd]C[mallow [-\]: R17 still open
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: therefore black plays r17 immediately
])
(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Firzen [16k\]: R17
reed338 [17k?\]: 3.3
MRei [?\]: r17
Firzen [16k\]: san-san
]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[Scribe [-\]: s16 would induce white to make perfect shape
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rc]CR[rc]))
(;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[scKevinjf [21k\]: yeah
kerem74 [22k\]: yes
MRei [?\]: yes
clemi [?\]: ok
Firzen [16k\]: sure
ivanho [9k\]: yes
kirkbobic [13k\]: clear
reed338 [17k?\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes thx
grossebaf [5k?\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: the continuation show why Black plays q10 in place of r11 when White plays o16 in place of o17
totylkoja [?\]: yes
]))))
(;AW[qe][ql]AB[qg][qj]LB[qh:1][qi:2]
;B[]C[Scribe [-\]: black must play at p10 else white will destroy eyeshape 
]
(;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[og]CR[og]
;AW[jp][pp]C[Scribe [-\]: middle game joseki
Scribe [-\]: black lives
])
(;AW[pc][dd][jd]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[nh]CR[nh]C[Scribe [-\]: white gets outside influence
Scribe [-\]: black lives
Scribe [-\]: white is happy
]
(;B[oj]CR[oj])
(;B[]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
(;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[pj]CR[pj])
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[nj]CR[nj]))))
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[oc]CR[oc]LB[pj:A]
(;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: black q10 is very big...makes moyo and connects stones
])
(;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Scribe [-\]: normally white plays to prevent black q10
Scribe [-\]: but theory is changing
]
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[pn]CR[pn])
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: Black: Yao Ye
rayen [8k\]: yup
Firzen [16k\]: no
kerem74 [22k\]: no
puzi [9k\]: sure
Scribe [-\]: White: Gu Li
troll [2k\]: yes
MRei [?\]: yeah
kerem74 [22k\]: 16?
Blackstorm [10k\]: and how strong ?
Scribe [-\]: 10 LG Cup game
puzi [9k\]: 9p
Blackstorm [10k\]: wow :P
Forou [?\]: title matches ;)
Vanya [9k?\]: yes
]
(;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: normal move is to play from the enclosure
]
(;B[qh]CR[qh]TR[oc][qd]
;W[qn]CR[qn])
(;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: White gets sente and creates moyo on top
]
(;W[qg]CR[qg]C[Scribe [-\]: more modern move
whendrik [14k\]: Q12
Jadeite [19k?\]: Q12 
reed338 [17k?\]: p11
puzi [9k\]: q12
Kennabee [6k\]: P3
troll [2k\]: P10?
Lynn: Q12
kirkbobic [13k\]: q12
]
;B[ph]CR[ph]C[scKevinjf [21k\]: K16 
]
;W[qh]CR[qh]C[puzi [9k\]: and what about white sansan invasion?
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[agui [7k\]: Isn't white P6 better ?
Blackstorm [10k\]: and what abouz if white nobi on r 9 ?
Firzen [16k\]: yes
clemi [?\]: ok
Bodo212 [15k\]: thx !
Forou [?\]: ok 
]
(;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[Scribe [-\]: black is VERY happy
reed338 [17k?\]: nice
scKevinjf [21k\]: teag'
scKevinjf [21k\]: yeah
Firzen [16k\]: yes
Forou [?\]: yeah
clemi [?\]: wow !
kerem74 [22k\]: good shape
kirkbobic [13k\]: yes, nice
scKevinjf [21k\]: crazy points
])
(;W[pk]CR[pk]C[whendrik [14k\]: R9
Jadeite [19k?\]: lol
agui [7k\]: yes
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[kerem74 [22k\]: r9
MRei [?\]: r9
rayen [8k\]: R9 
]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[oi]CR[oi]C[Scribe [-\]: How to punish this white q9 move
rayen [8k\]: S10 
troll [2k\]: S10
]
;B[rj]CR[rj]C[totylkoja [?\]: s10
scKevinjf [21k\]: P8 
reed338 [17k?\]: p8
ivanho [9k\]: extend
]
(;W[qi]CR[qi]C[agui [7k\]: o10
Scribe [-\]: force !
Jadeite [19k?\]: P9 
puzi [9k\]: nobi
Firzen [16k\]: O10?
rayen [8k\]: S11 
]
;B[nj]CR[nj]C[MRei [?\]: o10
totylkoja [?\]: o10
agui [7k\]: O10
]
;W[ni]CR[ni]C[reed338 [17k?\]: p8
ivanho [9k\]: extend
]
;B[mj]CR[mj])
(;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[qi]CR[qi]))
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[ScatCat [12k\]: kk
]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rk]CR[rk]
(;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[sk]CR[sk]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: black blocks white access to lower right
])
(;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[ri]CR[ri]
;W[sk]CR[sk]
;B[pm]CR[pm]C[Scribe [-\]: when learning joseki, must learn how to punish deviation from joseki
Scribe [-\]: joseki or any standard sequence
])))
(;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]C[puzi [9k\]: i meant after the middle game joseki
])))
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Scribe [-\]: game
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [-\]: Black creates moyo on both bottom and right side
scKevinjf [21k\]: why not D10 
]))))
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[puzi [9k\]: www.audiogolessons.com
Scribe [-\]: http://goaudiolessons.com
ljl [12k?\]: anybody know how she gets the triangles on the move tree?
]
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [-\]: @ljl F2
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[puzi [9k\]: mini chinese
guojuan [5p\]: mini Chinses
]
;W[po]CR[po]C[Scribe [-\]: modern fuseki ..... mini chinese
]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Firzen [16k\]: if there's something written in that moves number, there's a little triangle on the move tree
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
(;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[pm]LB[pm:16][qm:2][rm:14][on:15][pn:8][qn:7][rn:9][po:1][qo:6][ro:12][pp:5][qp:4][oq:13][qq:3][rq:10][qr:11]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[nf]CR[nf])
(;W[on]CR[on]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[Blackstorm [10k\]: w gote
joshiva [4k\]: sente/ gote
Scribe [-\]: white makes a big mistake when playing p6 before p3
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Scribe [-\]: best black move on the right side is q14
Scribe [-\]: defends both top and right side
]))
(;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[po]CR[po]C[puzi [9k\]: shusaku :D
]
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[Scribe [-\]: q15 is becoming rare move due to large komi
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
(;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[og]CR[og])
(;B[ql]CR[ql]C[totylkoja [?\]: invade
agui [7k\]: invade !
Forou [?\]: invade
scKevinjf [21k\]: R8 
Firzen [16k\]: invade
Bodo212 [15k\]: invade
clemi [?\]: great strengh
GrandYan [7k\]: Violent? :)
]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[hd]CR[hd]LB[cc:A][no:B]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: very painful fro balck on top
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[Scribe [-\]: c17 and o5 are both big moves to maintain balance in the game, neither play can be allowed to get both
puzi [9k\]: c14?
agui [7k\]: C14
Jadeite [19k?\]: C14 ?
elicoidal [?\]: d15
zeroblue42 [15k\]: D15 
joshiva [4k\]: C14
MRei [?\]: d15
whendrik [14k\]: c14
sansnom [9k\]: c14
scKevinjf [21k\]: D15 
]
(;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[be]CR[be]C[puzi [9k\]: c14?
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cb]CR[cb]C[birne [1k\]: but is k14 necessary?
]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[no]CR[no])
(;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[no]CR[no]C[ScatCat [12k\]: kk
agui [7k\]: yes
denis2: what ge W with C14?
denis2: get
Jadeite [19k?\]: great lesson :)
scKevinjf [21k\]: na lods of new info
Forou [?\]: no no it is interesting
puzi [9k\]: interesting. want more :)
Bodo212 [15k\]: thank you very much 
brx [13k\]: thank you
Naktibalda [16k\]: denis: sente
agui [7k\]: Thank you for this excellent lesson !!
zee [11k\]: Thanks a lot
kerem74 [22k\]: thanks
clemi [?\]: it's very interesting
whendrik [14k\]: Thank you for the game
suducodu [?\]: thx
Vanya [9k?\]: agree, very useful lesson. Thank you very much
zee [11k\]: Thanks to the ING Foundation too
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE GREAT LECTURE
xDarigaaz [8k\]: thank you for the lesson
Blackstorm [10k\]: thx
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
Firzen [16k\]: thanks a lot guojuan
SILD [6k\]: thank you
SILD [6k\]: cu
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
clemi [?\]: thank you
ivanho [9k\]: thank you
Redjoker [9k\]: danke^^
Forou [?\]: thank you!
ruger [15k?\]: thank you
totylkoja [?\]: Excellent Lesson - Thank you :)
Templar [?\]: That was very interesting lesson
ljl [12k?\]: thx teacher and Ing foundation
MRei [?\]: thank you
Scribe [-\]: www.audiogolessons.com...only 1 euro per game for 1 month of access
rayen [8k\]: thx
Yanek [12k?\]: thak you
alarique [12k\]: thanks
mallow [-\]: thanks a lot
omfgrateg [26k?\]: thakn you
au2 [4k\]: thanks to Scribe
Forou [?\]: they also got some free games on audiogolessons for tasters :) 
birne [1k\]: thank you for the lesson
kerem74 [22k\]: bye
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie GuoJuan Laoshi
GrandYan [7k\]: Thank you.
scKevinjf [21k\]: na
suducodu [?\]: not at qll
scKevinjf [21k\]: thx
Forou [?\]: the longer the better!
andrem [16k\]: after this clear lesson i feel i have a chance to improve ; thank you so much 
Firzen [16k\]: cya
xDarigaaz [8k\]: bye
Kennabee [6k\]: Thanks
au2 [4k\]: bye bye
kirkbobic [13k\]: thx very much
MRei [?\]: bye
ruger [15k?\]: bye
ljl [12k?\]: thankyou
Forou [?\]: Bye
scKevinjf [21k\]: bye
Imoto [10k?\]: cu
kerem74 [22k\]: se ya
aleph0 [-\]: thx
ivanho [9k\]: thank you, cu next time
LT [12k?\]: thx
agui [7k\]: Thank you very much !
puzi [9k\]: nice encore :)
Jimdvg [21k\]: bye
au2 [4k\]: have a great week
Forou [?\]: thnx
Kennabee [6k\]: Bye
elicoidal [?\]: bye
agui [7k\]: See you
Redjoker [9k\]: bye
Bodo212 [15k\]: thanks - bye
Blackstorm [10k\]: cya
EfeCan [24k\]: BYE
aleph0 [-\]: bye
Zark [3k\]: bye
GoShadow [8k\]: thx
Vanya [9k?\]: see you
])))
(;B[np]CR[np]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[or]CR[or]))
(;B[md]CR[md]C[whendrik [14k\]: sai!
JeffAmid [-\]: old fashioned
])
(;B[ld]CR[ld])
(;B[kd]CR[kd])
(;B[np]CR[np]C[Scribe [-\]: o4 is becoming rare as well
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[qk]CR[qk]LB[np:A]C[Firzen [16k\]: I didn'T even know that ^^
agui [7k\]: yes
clemi [?\]: yes
SILD [6k\]: YES
Amaraa: yes
])
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[rr]CR[rr]C[Scribe [-\]: o3 becoming more common than o4
Scribe [-\]: o3 allows s2 move
]
;W[qk]LB[qk:6][qp:4][nq:1][qq:2][qr:3][rr:5]C[Scribe [-\]: jsoeki
Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;B[so]CR[so]C[agui [7k\]: yes
whendrik [14k\]: b cant nobi when O3 = O4?
Blackstorm [10k\]: how many is the differents ?
]))))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
(;W[jq]CR[jq]C[puzi [9k\]: k4
])
(;W[kq]CR[kq]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[ko]CR[ko])
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [-\]: very good for black
]
(;W[eq]CR[eq]C[Scribe [-\]: must invade
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[lo]CR[lo]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[mo]CR[mo]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[no]CR[no])
(;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[co]CR[co]C[whendrik [14k\]: C2
Lynn: C2
puzi [9k\]: c2
rayen [8k\]: C2 
ivanho [9k\]: c2
zee [11k\]: c2
scKevinjf [21k\]: D2 
Scribe [-\]: white hane is an error
SakuraHime [9k?\]: c2
elicoidal [?\]: c6
Firzen [16k\]: D2?
kirkbobic [13k\]: c2
Blackstorm [10k\]: nobi
mallow [-\]: C2 D2 D5
Jadeite [19k?\]: C2 or D2 
clemi [?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: common 5kyu to 2dan mistake
mattC [2k?\]: what if white black does not have the ladder?
]
(;B[cr]CR[cr]C[MRei [?\]: what about d2 first for black?
]
(;W[dr]CR[dr]C[rayen [8k\]: D5 
whendrik [14k\]: Cut!
kirkbobic [13k\]: D5
agui [7k\]: cut
elicoidal [?\]: c6
Blackstorm [10k\]: cut
Lynn: D4
alarique [12k\]: D5
zee [11k\]: d5
]
;B[do]CR[do]C[puzi [9k\]: i had some experiences with that c2... :D
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[Vanya [9k?\]: c6
Lynn: D5
ivanho [9k\]: kill
alarique [12k\]: E4
SakuraHime [9k?\]: e4
sansnom [9k\]: e 4
rayen [8k\]: E4 
Lynn: E4
kirkbobic [13k\]: E4
Blackstorm [10k\]: e 5
Firzen [16k\]: E4
agui [7k\]: E4
mallow [-\]: E5
kerem74 [22k\]: e4
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]C[MRei [?\]: e5
Scribe [-\]: must e4
]
(;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[er]CR[er])
(;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[dm]CR[dm]C[Firzen [16k\]: ladder
]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;AE[pd]AB[qd]C[rayen [8k\]: E7 ?
ScatCat [12k\]: C7 
Lynn: E2
ivanho [9k\]: c7
]
(;B[em]CR[em]C[yfh2 [?\]: g6
cynewulf [10k?\]: g3
agui [7k\]: F6
])
(;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[eq]CR[eq]C[rayen [8k\]: oh right
rayen [8k\]: G5 
Firzen [16k\]: F4
GrandYan [7k\]: G5 
Vanya [9k?\]: defend
omfgrateg [26k?\]: f4
ScatCat [12k\]: G5 
mallow [-\]: G5
SakuraHime [9k?\]: g5
agui [7k\]: F4
h0029478 [11k\]: G5
noel [10k\]: E2
]
(;B[go]CR[go]C[troll [2k\]: D1
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[Scribe [-\]: squeeze
Blackstorm [10k\]: g 6
Blackstorm [10k\]: g5
Kennabee [6k\]: D1
])
(;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[Vanya [9k?\]: wow
ozakin [18k?\]: ^^
Blackstorm [10k\]: :P
Firzen [16k\]: looks hard
scKevinjf [21k\]: now that was crazy...
kerem74 [22k\]: nice
Firzen [16k\]: so many hane ^^
puzi [9k\]: woah
Imoto [10k?\]: nice^^
]))))
(;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: white escapes
]
;B[fs]CR[fs]
;W[ep]CR[ep]))
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[gp]CR[gp]LB[cf:A][cg:B][ch:C][ci:D][cj:E][ck:F][cl:G][cm:H]C[Scribe [-\]: good for black
totylkoja [?\]: c11
Firzen [16k\]: C11
puzi [9k\]: c11
puzi [9k\]: D
scKevinjf [21k\]: d
Jadeite [19k?\]: D
Firzen [16k\]: D
whendrik [14k\]: D
sansnom [9k\]: d
Vanya [9k?\]: d
zeroblue42 [15k\]: D
zee [11k\]: D
Amaraa: D
MRei [?\]: d
totylkoja [?\]: D
kirkbobic [13k\]: D
Scribe [-\]: where should black invade on the left side ?
]
(;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: best move
]
;B[cf]CR[cf])
(;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: c11 is the best move for black
whendrik [14k\]: Too close to stronger side
Vanya [9k?\]: too close
puzi [9k\]: w c12
Amaraa: close to wall
agui [7k\]: C13
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]C[mallow [-\]: white D9 then?
]
;B[cm]CR[cm]C[Blackstorm [10k\]: whit push black to his wall
])))
(;B[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [-\]: black mistake
Forou [?\]: c2
Vanya [9k?\]: then d2
ivanho [9k\]: c2?
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]TR[cp][cq]C[Firzen [16k\]: D2?
whendrik [14k\]: Thank choose not F5 but other
]
(;B[cn]CR[cn])
(;B[br]CR[br]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[fr]CR[fr])))))))
