(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2006-04-16]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[rayen [8k\]: hi jujo !
ljl [12k\]: happy easter
seidelin [10k\]: Bunny time! =)
DrGoPlayer [-\]: hello
habanos [24k\]: 复活节 快乐 
Fibo [15k\]: hi
EfeCan [27k?\]: hi
EfeCan [27k?\]: have fun
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: Hi
hixhix [4k?\]: hi all
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]C[ljl [12k\]: I beleive he is setting up the class
Fibo [15k\]: no audio neither
Uvas [-\]: hi
Firzen [16k\]: hi
Fibo [15k\]: it works!
EfeCan [27k?\]: helloo :)
hansb [5k\]: this game is Go Seigen against KItani
dodo4: hello
murky: Hello
Zark [4k\]: hi
SitaRam [1d?\]: hello jujo
rollingpin: greetings
JosefK [7k\]: hi
Porkepic [16k\]: hello
ArGonauta [15k?\]: hello teacher !
kencabbit [7k\]: Hello
seidelin [10k\]: good morning
Fibo [15k\]: hi
tibra [11k?\]: hello
Aivonix [12k\]: g'day
au2 [4k\]: hi jujo
twofotisx [17k?\]: hello
ligo [?\]: hiya
dodo4: go seigen is white i guess
Bodo212 [15k\]: good afternoon
saodiseng [1d\]: good morning
Vanya [9k\]: hi
murky: Audio good today
ljl [12k\]: wu = white?
hixhix [4k?\]: who's Go Sensei ?
ljl [12k\]: white
hgmichna [11k\]: Sound volume is rather low.
agui [7k\]: volume too low !
Scribe [-\]: no very hard to hear
seidelin [10k\]: sound is good enough for me
baian [4k\]: ok here
hgmichna [11k\]: Yes, it is sufficient, but it is unnecessarily low.
agui [7k\]: Sorry but for me is very hard to hear
Uvas [-\]: turn up volume :)
]
;W[pp]CR[pp]C[agui [7k\]: It's full turned !!!
Scribe [-\]: yes please
ArGonauta [15k?\]: thats better
ljl [12k\]: ur fine
Uvas [-\]: yes fine
suzakusan [11k\]: yes
Aivonix [12k\]: yes plz
swilks [8k\]: i hear fine
ArGonauta [15k?\]: yes
rayen [8k\]: I hear you
Porkepic [16k\]: yes ok
hgmichna [11k\]: Closer to the microphone, perhaps.
Scribe [-\]: louder yes [;ease
habanos [24k\]: yes very good
Fibo [15k\]: fine
twofotisx [17k?\]: that's good
Bagheera: yes
kouchi [3k\]: maybe move mic closer
Uvas [-\]: yes
Akala [-\]: fine on my system
whendrik [14k\]: I can hear you good
twofotisx [17k?\]: much
]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: yes - better now
DrGoPlayer [-\]: u are fine
au2 [4k\]: sound is strong
agui [7k\]: better yes
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[habanos [24k\]: 复活节 快乐 
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]C[kent1956 [23k\]: ififyes
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[od]CR[od]C[Scribe [-\]: Two space kakari is a favorite move of Wu when playing white
]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
(;B[oe]CR[oe]C[hansb [5k\]: kitani style is very solid
]
;W[nf]CR[nf]C[Talaer [11k\]: You can disable stone sound
Akala [-\]: solution is to turn off stone sound
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [-\]: Black 11 prevents white from sealing black off from expanding on the right side
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
(;B[kc]CR[kc]C[ArGonauta [15k?\]: disable stone sound disables all
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
(;B[of]CR[of]
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[qm]CR[qm]C[ArGonauta [15k?\]: no audio?
Templar [?\]: audio ok
dodo4: why didn't white play Q7?
hgmichna [11k\]: Audio works, but volume is low. Should be about 10-20 dB higher.
dodo4: hgmichna: every 3db sound is about twice as loud, 10-20 db is overkill i think ;-)
kouchi [3k\]: listeners just turn up your windows wav and total volume up, it's fine
ArGonauta [15k?\]: voice is not clear, pleaase can you turn up mic volune or speak closer?
Scribe [-\]: turned up all the way...and no its not fine
Ramppu [18k\]: i took headphones
seidelin [10k\]: there is allways some who have sound problems....almost allways it is his or hers own pc that is the problem
hgmichna [11k\]: It is not fine. It is intelligible, but it is too low compared to the stone click, and it also shows compression artifacts.
Uvas [-\]: take complaints outside of lesson please
hgmichna [11k\]: But since it apparently can't be fixed, we'll have to bear it out.
Uvas [-\]: wow
Uvas [-\]: genius
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: game is now close....if there had been komi, white would be better at this point
]
;W[mg]CR[mg]C[dodo4: hi
dodo4: yes
Uvas [-\]: yes
seidelin [10k\]: yes
SitaRam [1d?\]: yes
Talaer [11k\]: yes
swilks [8k\]: yes
au2 [4k\]: yes
whendrik [14k\]: I can hear you
suzakusan [11k\]: yes clear
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: yes
tibra [11k?\]: yes
ArGonauta [15k?\]: too low
Akala [-\]: hear you fine
Bodo212 [15k\]: can hear
clemi [?\]: yes of course !
agui [7k\]: yes
habanos [24k\]: yes very good
ArGonauta [15k?\]: is NOT clear
]
;B[mh]CR[mh]C[Siva [12k\]: yes
]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[og]CR[og]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: ok
ArGonauta [15k?\]: voie
]
(;W[jd]CR[jd]C[Firzen [16k\]: Why didn't white hane?
]
(;B[jc]CR[jc])
(;B[id]CR[id]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
(;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[go]CR[go]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
(;W[oj]CR[oj]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[ni]CR[ni]C[seidelin [10k\]: l10
dodo4: H14 
upsidedown: N4 ?
au2 [4k\]: Q12?
kirkbobic [14k\]: n4
ArGonauta [15k?\]: around N5?
Talaer [11k\]: K10?
saodiseng [1d\]: g14
Quinn [9k?\]: m4
whendrik [14k\]: n10
kouchi [3k\]: G15 
clemi [?\]: NQ11
wossname [10k\]: q11
keplen [7k?\]: L10?
]
(;W[gg]CR[gg]C[Vanya [9k\]: k10
])
(;W[co]CR[co]C[ArGonauta [15k?\]: L10 too
]
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[dodo4: how come such a strong player makes a 'weak' move like C5?
]
;W[gg]CR[gg]C[Scribe [-\]: both white c5 and black r12 are slow moves.  should move in the center.  shows that the development of moyo oriented go was still in progress and not fully incorporated in play
]
;B[gi]CR[gi]C[rayen [8k\]: oO
]
(;W[jj]CR[jj]C[rayen [8k\]: seems to deep for me
]
(;B[gk]CR[gk]
;W[ei]CR[ei]C[dodo4: black probably played something like D10
Scribe [-\]: even black lives, its not good for black due to moves like e11
])
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[Scribe [-\]: game
ChipMonk [18k\]: Hm...
]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Scribe [-\]: 3 day game, 13 hours per person
Scribe [-\]: final result 2 point win for white
seidelin [10k\]: oh so one of em was chinese?
Scribe [-\]: wu is chinese
dodo4: seidelin: shame on you, you should know go seigen is chinese
seidelin [10k\]: ok thanks
ljl [12k\]: Go Seigon was chinese, (0r Wu if u perfer)
Scribe [-\]: wu's name in japanese pronounciation of chinese characters is go seigen
Fibo [15k\]: thx
habanos [24k\]: 呉清源 
murky: Thank you, MIngJiu
kouchi [3k\]: this was first "sealed move" game where last move was secret, so neither player could prepare overnight
swilks [8k\]: thank you
murky: JuJo
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: thank you
tibra [11k?\]: than you
Vanya [9k\]: thank you for the lecture
Scribe [-\]: see http://senseis.xmp.net/?GoSeigen
iddonaim [-\]: thank you
agui [7k\]: thank you very much
ljl [12k\]: thx jujo
murky: Thank you JuJo
SitaRam [1d?\]: thank you jujo
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
saym [8k?\]: thx
saodiseng [1d\]: thank you
Janez [3k\]: thx
hgmichna [11k\]: Thank you very much.
mpk [10k\]: thank you
wingnut [-\]: thank you Jujo and Ing Foundation
ChipMonk [18k\]: Thanks
kirkbobic [14k\]: thank you
Worthless [5k?\]: Thank you.
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
Myshkin [19k\]: Thank you
seidelin [10k\]: thanks
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: bye
dodo4: bye
Zark [4k\]: thank you
SitaRam [1d?\]: see you
Vanya [9k\]: bye
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO SCRIBE
whendrik [14k\]: Thank you and bye
rollingpin: bye bye, thank you!
equit [21k\]: thank you
equit [21k\]: bye!
Siva [12k\]: thanks
rayen [8k\]: thx
Siva [12k\]: bye
])
(;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[hk]CR[hk]C[Scribe [-\]: this is considered the way based upon later analysis
]
;W[il]CR[il]
;B[fg]CR[fg]))
(;W[ii]CR[ii]
;B[hh]CR[hh]C[keplen [7k?\]: J11 is shape point?
]
;W[if]CR[if]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: weaknesses top and bottom
dodo4: nice
]))
(;B[hg]CR[hg]C[Quinn [9k?\]: bless you ;)
])))
(;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[ml]CR[ml]))
(;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
(;B[fq]CR[fq])
(;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
(;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[hq]CR[hq])
(;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[ep]CR[ep]))))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[fo]CR[fo]))
(;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[je]CR[je]C[Quinn [9k?\]: thank you move
]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[ie]CR[ie]))
(;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ka]CR[ka]
;W[id]CR[id]))
(;W[lg]CR[lg]C[ArGonauta [15k?\]: voie is too low and distorted
seidelin [10k\]: m15
rayen [8k\]: M15 
hansb [5k\]: M15
whendrik [14k\]: N11
]
(;B[le]CR[le]C[Myshkin [19k\]: m15
Vanya [9k\]: N11
dodo4: i wouldn't play there
agui [7k\]: M12
Quinn [9k?\]: w would just give up 3 stones...
dodo4: it's too small
SitaRam [1d?\]: m12
au2 [4k\]: N11 ?
])
(;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[kg]CR[kg]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[ig]CR[ig]
;B[hi]CR[hi]C[hgmichna [11k\]: Black could now capture O12?
]))
(;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[kh]CR[kh]C[Bagheera: ni dan bane
]
;B[ki]CR[ki]C[Scribe [-\]: because of L17 white can not make any points on the top...black should push white towards the left as shown in the variation
]
;W[jh]CR[jh]C[Firzen [16k\]: k thanks
]
;B[ij]CR[ij]))
(;W[ng]CR[ng]))
(;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[if]CR[if]C[Aivonix [12k\]: lo !
Scribe [-\]: black attacks the three white stones
Scribe [-\]: much better for black
]
;W[kh]CR[kh]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[lk]CR[lk]C[Scribe [-\]: the attack will prevent the white left moyo from becoming too big...white will not have time to build the moyo
]))
(;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[ig]CR[ig]))
(;B[mb]CR[mb]C[ArGonauta [15k?\]: thats not the point
ArGonauta [15k?\]: there is a wrong mix
]))
(;B[mb]CR[mb]C[kent1956 [23k\]: if audio is real bad try leaving the room and come back
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
(;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[oe]CR[oe]C[aizik1 [24k\]: i cant hear
])
(;B[pe]CR[pe]C[xDarigaaz [8k?\]: sound ok
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[pf]CR[pf]C[Ramppu [18k\]: i cant either
DrGoPlayer [-\]: fine
Uvas [-\]: sound is fine
seidelin [10k\]: i hear it fine
hansb [5k\]: sound is fine
ArGonauta [15k?\]: the stones are too loud but the voice is not clear
])))
