(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-04-09]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: namaste mingjiu
SitaRam [1d?\]: nice to hear you
sevennine: hi
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: hi mingjiu
Ruutana [4k\]: Hello.
rayen [8k\]: hello mingjiu :)
janmarco [16k?\]: hello
Kevintju [19k?\]: hello
murky: Hello there
ruger [15k\]: hi
rayen [8k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: yes
nux [14k?\]: yes
Forou [?\]: I hear you:)
Myshkin [19k\]: yes
seidelin [10k\]: yes
reed338 [25k?\]: yes
fryskenfry [17k\]: hello, good afternoon :) 
rausku [?\]: indeed we can hear you ;)O
gogogo07 [9k\]: better then ever!!!
SitaRam [1d?\]: perfect sound
serbes [?\]: ys
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Jiang Mingjiu Laoshi
gogogo07 [9k\]: :-(
sevennine: oh oh :(
seidelin [10k\]: =)
Forou [?\]: hehe
SitaRam [1d?\]: yes
fryskenfry [17k\]: losing is ok, if my opponent deserves it :) 
seidelin [10k\]: they allways do
mingjiu [7p\]: papk jungsangk
Joemac [-\]: Park Jungsang
Ruutana [4k\]: Park Jungsang?
Forou [?\]: :)
Joemac [-\]: korean 5p
Scribe [-\]: [2006-04-08\]  19th Fujitsu Cup, round 1
Scribe [-\]: Jiang Mingjiu 7p  	Park Cheongsang 5p
Scribe [-\]:  	W+9.5  	 
rausku [?\]: ty scribe
Scribe [-\]: see http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/new50.php
rayen [8k\]: nice
SitaRam [1d?\]: gratulation
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: hm
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: i thougt you are w
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [-\]: Jiang Mingjiu is Black in this game
]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[fq]CR[fq]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: so, we should point out your bad moves? 
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: sorry
]
;W[db]CR[db]C[Scribe [-\]: common fuseki
Scribe [-\]: very popyular
]
(;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[qj]CR[qj])
(;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Javaness [5k\]: oh
Scribe [-\]: black tries to build a build moyo
]
(;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [-\]: game
]
;B[lc]CR[lc]C[Scribe [-\]: change from the popular fuseki
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Scribe [-\]: m17 good point for black
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: r14 combination very strong
guojuan [5p\]: san san
guojuan [5p\]: :)
]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
(;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[ph]CR[ph]C[Scribe [-\]: black's plan
Javaness [5k\]: why play keima? (P14)
])
(;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
(;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[dg]CR[dg]LB[hc:B][ic:A]C[Scribe [-\]: j17 and h17 are bad exchange fro white
]
;W[qh]CR[qh]LB[hc:B][ic:A]C[Forou [?\]: why did black not capture j17?
fryskenfry [17k\]: it is captured, forou. 
]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
(;W[qg]CR[qg]C[Forou [?\]: taking it off the board is what I would do with j16:p
]
;B[rj]CR[rj])
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[Scribe [-\]: cutting point at p15 server
]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
(;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[sergiop [9k\]: forou: no good ladder breaker no?
]
;W[ri]CR[ri]LB[oe:A]C[Scribe [-\]: result not good for black
rayen [8k\]: is Q11  sente for w ?
])
(;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[pi]CR[pi]C[Scribe [-\]: game
]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
(;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[rh]CR[rh])
(;W[ql]CR[ql]
;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[rm]CR[rm]TR[rb][rc][rd][re][se]C[rayen [8k\]: hm
murky: B is in control 
puzi [?\]: w gotto run
agui [7k\]: good for black
rayen [8k\]: I like both
Forou [?\]: good for black:)
murky: ut appears
SitaRam [1d?\]: b
Javaness [5k\]: black++
jwc [?\]: why not p3?
Scribe [-\]: result good for black
guojuan [5p\]: I like b
puzi [?\]: ^^
Myshkin [19k\]: b
rayen [8k\]: maybe b a little better
TenukiBoy [6k\]: same as guojuan ;)
Scribe [-\]: black has attack on white and got a big corner
Azumii: i agree with Guo Yuan
]
(;W[op]CR[op]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[on]CR[on]C[Scribe [-\]: black plays to split white
]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[nn]CR[nn]C[Javaness [5k\]: white is not very kind
]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[lk]CR[lk]
;B[lm]CR[lm]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[jk]CR[jk]C[rayen [8k\]: oh  nice
]
;W[kl]CR[kl]
;B[ko]CR[ko]C[guojuan [5p\]: MingJiu mean he has got nothing to loose 
KsiWave [?\]: hello
puzi [?\]: :)
]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[jl]CR[jl]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[ik]CR[ik]C[Scribe [-\]: lunch time
Scribe [-\]: 2.5 hours of play in the morning
olczyk [14k\]: What did you have to eat?
]
;W[il]CR[il]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[km]CR[km]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
(;B[rn]CR[rn]LB[mk:A]C[Scribe [-\]: can prevent white eye
Scribe [-\]: black loses 3 points here
Scribe [-\]: vs r6
Scribe [-\]: black n9 aji
]
(;W[]C[Scribe [-\]: timing of n9 is hard to determine
]
(;B[mk]CR[mk]
(;W[ml]CR[ml]
;B[mj]CR[mj])
(;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
;B[lj]CR[lj]))
(;B[]))
(;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
(;W[jq]CR[jq]
(;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[fp]CR[fp])
(;B[hk]CR[hk]LB[gp:A])
(;B[ee]CR[ee]C[rayen [8k\]: :D
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: :)
SitaRam [1d?\]: hihi
Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho prefers black in this position
rayen [8k\]: nice to get compliment from him :)
]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[bi]CR[bi]
(;W[jf]CR[jf]C[Javaness [5k\]: you have to be hungrier
])
(;W[if]CR[if]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[jh]CR[jh]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[kg]CR[kg]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
(;W[nb]CR[nb]LB[op:A]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: double
sergiop [9k\]: what was the name of the W player?
Scribe [-\]: Park Cheongsang 5p
BuddyL [7k\]: oh wow ... I got a teaching game from him in February ^^
SitaRam [1d?\]: you won?
rayen [8k\]: we are all humans :)
guojuan [5p\]: Dinerstain
vee [9k\]: speak for yourself
guojuan [5p\]: Alexander
Javaness [5k\]: elh
Javaness [5k\]: eduardo
Anomen [14k\]: mm, can't black try and kill the L13 group
Joemac [-\]: eduardo lopez herrero
guojuan [5p\]: from Russia
olczyk [14k\]: Worse you did not get to watch Cho HS vs Y Keigo
guojuan [5p\]: the players from the west sit together for lunch
Celila [11k?\]: ;-)
Forou [?\]: oh? they eat western lunches?
wingnut [-\]: can't you get Chang Hao to review the game for you ? :)
guojuan [5p\]: no
guojuan [5p\]: they have all kind of food 
Forou [?\]: :D
BuddyL [7k\]: bibimbap?
birne [1k\]: Mr. Jiang, even Lee Changho could lose a game in byoyomi, no?
birne [1k\]: I think you played a great game!
rayen [8k\]: you explained very well
Celila [11k?\]: thank you :)
KsiWave [?\]: thank you very much
agui [7k\]: no Thanks
rayen [8k\]: thank you
Blaubaer [6d?\]:  good game
guojuan [5p\]: great pity 
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: thank you
SitaRam [1d?\]: thx mingjiu
au2 [4k\]: good review
Hinek [23k?\]: Thank you!
Blaubaer [6d?\]: thank you
ruger [15k\]: thank you
iddonaim [-\]: thank you
sergiop [9k\]: thanks
murky: we learnt alot
MRei [?\]: thank you
wholeboard [7k\]: thank you
Javaness [5k\]: thanks
Stalker [8k\]: thank you
TenukiBoy [6k\]: thx !!!!!!!!
saodiseng [1d\]: thank you
mjv [-\]: thanks
linfir [-\]: thanks
dodo4: thx
fryskenfry [17k\]: could you take it back to the beginning once more? show the point where w originally "lost" the game 
birne [1k\]: thank you for the lesson!
olczyk [14k\]: Dinerstein lost to an relatively unknown player by the name of Chikun 
Titonio [-\]: thx
Vanya [10k?\]: thanks
olczyk [14k\]: Thank You
Javaness [5k\]: win next time
wingnut [-\]: hehe 
Ruutana [4k\]: Heheh
murky: thanks for sharing with us
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: :)
guojuan [5p\]: Dinderstein lost to Cho Chikun
KsiWave [?\]: go China!
Forou [?\]: heh kill or make live small
fryskenfry [17k\]: thanks for showing this anyway, good game! 
guojuan [5p\]: Cho Chikun is very very very famous :)
rayen [8k\]: hmm
olczyk [14k\]: I think you can watch the game on CyberOro.
murky: LuoxiHe 
olczyk [14k\]: Cho vs Keigo
guojuan [5p\]: yes Luo Xihe :)
puzi [?\]: cho chikun has been my idol since i was 25k :)
JeffAmid [-\]: yeah
olczyk [14k\]: But I watch four atg once.
Forou [?\]: Yeah Cho vs Keigo!
sajmon [13k\]: how about white N7 now?, doesn´t work?
dodo4: puzi; that short heh?
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: deal :)
rayen [8k\]: yes
reed338 [25k?\]: thank you
Blaubaer [6d?\]: fine
rayen [8k\]: sounds good
agui [7k\]: Yes Fine ! Thanks
olczyk [14k\]: Thank you
Forou [?\]: thank you then:)
Shikasta [15k\]: thxs
BuddyL [7k\]: thx
sergiop [9k\]: thanks a lot!!!
guojuan [5p\]: thx
EfeCan [26k?\]: thx
ruger [15k\]: thx
murky: thank you MingJiu
nux [14k?\]: thank you
Azumii: thx
Hinek [23k?\]: xie xie
KsiWave [?\]: thx, bye
seidelin [10k\]: bye
gogogo07 [9k\]: thx
puzi [?\]: @dodo4: how funny you are
mstarsup5 [5k\]: thank you :)))
Forou [?\]: bye
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: bye
Joemac [-\]: thanks
Myshkin [19k\]: thaks
rayen [8k\]: bye :)
wholeboard [7k\]: thanks
Celila [11k?\]: thank you enjoy your week :)
Conch [13k\]: thanks
guojuan [5p\]: I will continue 
wingnut [-\]: thx bye
agui [7k\]: See you
EfeCan [26k?\]: THXXXXXX :=)
Myshkin [19k\]: bye
MRei [?\]: bye
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Jiang Mingjiu Laoshi!
gogogo07 [9k\]: nice treams
Ophelia [11k?\]: thanks you
SitaRam [1d?\]: hari
wingnut [-\]: sleep well :)
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
saodiseng [1d\]: thank you
Stalker [8k\]: xie xie
Vanya [10k?\]: see you
agui [7k\]: Thank you very much !!
JosefK [8k?\]: thx
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
puzi [?\]: thanks for playing the game :)
murky: Bye
upsidedown: thanks
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
(;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[df]CR[df])
(;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[ce]CR[ce]C[dodo4: what if white B13?
]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: is this all a result of O17 being not a good move? or: what did w do wrong to get into trouble? 
])
(;W[be]CR[be]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[bn]CR[bn]C[murky: Was jetlag a factor?
Scribe [-\]: more than 5 hours into game now
Javaness [5k\]: did you need coffee?
Forou [?\]: 5 hour... insane...
Ruutana [4k\]: :O
wingnut [-\]: hehe :)
rayen [8k\]: ^^
Scribe [-\]: very hard to maintain level of play for five hours
Javaness [5k\]: offer him a beer
seidelin [10k\]: take a break
SitaRam [1d?\]: tea?
]
(;W[fg]CR[fg]C[rausku [?\]: that's why they are professionals
puzi [?\]: what were byo-yomi settings?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: not enough for b?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: ^^
]
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: sequence good for white
]
;W[df]CR[df])
(;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[df]CR[df]C[janmarco [16k?\]: for b ?
]
;W[he]CR[he]C[pel [10k\]: :)
SitaRam [1d?\]: timetesuji
Blaubaer [6d?\]: w in danger no?
sergiop [9k\]: who was W?
Anomen [14k\]: it's my first time here so can anyone tell me how this works? who's he talkin to :P
Anomen [14k\]: i am but it's so hard to get over his accent :D
]
(;B[fe]CR[fe]C[SitaRam [1d?\]: douple scribe
]
(;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[hg]CR[hg]C[BuddyL [7k\]: to you
]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[gf]CR[gf]C[KsiWave [?\]: all of us, it's a lesson
]
;B[ff]CR[ff]C[rayen [8k\]: he is explaining to us viewers
Scribe [-\]: black's plan
Anomen [14k\]: is he answering this msg box ?
KsiWave [?\]: sometimes
Forou [?\]: ^_^
fryskenfry [17k\]: if your question is good, he might :) 
Celila [11k?\]: in general just listen :) 
]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[hi]CR[hi]C[Scribe [-\]: again  balck kills white
Celila [11k?\]: white can't play g11.. black simply kills
SitaRam [1d?\]: hihi
])
(;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[hh]CR[hh]
;W[ge]CR[ge]C[Celila [11k?\]: black has more liberties than white
]
;B[ie]CR[ie]C[Scribe [-\]: balck will kill white
])
(;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[gf]CR[gf]))
(;B[gf]CR[gf]
(;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[ed]CR[ed]C[reed338 [25k?\]: its is not
BuddyL [7k\]: please stick to game comments here
Celila [11k?\]: it's not :) just stop typing and concentrate, you'll get used to it
puzi [?\]: what accent? oO
])
(;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[ie]CR[ie]
;B[ig]CR[ig]C[Celila [11k?\]: so here the game would be lost for b
]
;W[jg]CR[jg]C[KsiWave [?\]: Scribe is translating some parts in the text box
]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[fh]CR[fh]C[Javaness [5k\]: ohoh
rayen [8k\]: oh
dodo4: snap
Blaubaer [6d?\]: uhh
rayen [8k\]: nice
]
;B[fi]CR[fi]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[hj]CR[hj]C[puzi [?\]: funny ^^
Celila [11k?\]: black thought he could simply cut here.. but white has f12 ... 
]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[ih]CR[ih]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: woah! 5 hours of play down the drain :) 
]
(;B[fj]CR[fj])
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[fj]CR[fj]
(;W[ji]CR[ji])
(;W[gk]CR[gk]
;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[fk]CR[fk]))))))
(;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[Scribe [-\]: black now in byo-yomi
]
;B[eb]CR[eb])))
(;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
(;W[lf]CR[lf]C[Scribe [-\]: p18, o18 exchange very good for black
]
;B[mb]CR[mb])
(;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[ja]CR[ja]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[ki]CR[ki]C[Scribe [-\]: very dangerous for white
])))))
(;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: white does not have time to play in the center
]
;W[]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mr]CR[mr])))
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[rl]CR[rl]))
(;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[jn]CR[jn])))))
(;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
(;B[hd]CR[hd])
(;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[di]CR[di]C[Scribe [-\]: ladder break
]))))
(;W[jc]CR[jc])))