(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-04-02]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[SILD [6k\]: hello
rayen [8k\]: hello
whendrik [14k\]: Hello
Conch [13k\]: hello
SitaRam [?\]: namaste
wholeboard [7k\]: hi
Ruutana [4k\]: Hello!
project [11k\]: hi
scKevinjf [23k\]: hear ya
murky: Hi
rayen [8k\]: I can hear you :)
puzi [?\]: hi
Stalker [8k\]: hello
Bodo212 [16k\]: good afternoon
ahgo2 [-\]: hello
whendrik [14k\]: Yes i can hear you perfectly
hansili [9k\]: thank you
]
(;B[pb]CR[pb]C[Titonio [-\]: hello
rayen [8k\]: yes
agui [7k\]: Hello
]
(;W[ob]CR[ob]C[ruger [16k\]: hi
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[od]CR[od]C[SitaRam [?\]: yes
Imoto [11k?\]: hello^^
Conch [13k\]: volume low
ahgo2 [-\]: yes
scKevinjf [23k\]: nod*
Bodo212 [16k\]: yes hear
Tors [?\]: hello
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[SitaRam [?\]: low
]
;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Tarkam [10k?\]: very low
JeffAmid [-\]: low
]
;W[md]CR[md]C[Stalker [8k\]: low
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[murky: Yes, kind of soft
agui [7k\]: very low
]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[me]CR[me]C[Tarkam [10k?\]: ver very low
Valkiry [?\]: very quiet
]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[project [11k\]: soft voice
]
;B[le]CR[le]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[aa]CR[aa]C[braincrash [?\]: quiet volume today
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Inkognito [2k?\]: hello
Tarkam [10k?\]: pump up a volume ;)
]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[xDarigaaz [8k?\]: hi
]
;W[ac]CR[ac]C[SitaRam [?\]: pump up please
]
;B[jb]CR[jb]C[farid [18k\]: hi
]
;W[ad]CR[ad]C[Bodo212 [16k\]: sound of stones very loud -  voice slow
]
;B[hb]CR[hb]C[Scribe [-\]: Homework
murky: waked up too early
JeffAmid [-\]: ^^
SitaRam [?\]: w dead
whendrik [14k\]: Yes i did
]
;W[ba]CR[ba]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[puzi [?\]: can you turn up the volume a bit please`
SitaRam [?\]: b can kill
Inkognito [2k?\]: n18
whendrik [14k\]: W can live, b can kill
project [11k\]: haha
whendrik [14k\]: N18
scKevinjf [23k\]: N18 ?
Zwom [9k\]: could you turn up the volume on your microphone?
SitaRam [?\]: pump it up please
rayen [8k\]: N18 seems like the first thing that cross my mind
SitaRam [?\]: yeah
Bomberman [17k\]: yup
Imoto [11k?\]: Nice^^^
puzi [?\]: much better thanks
Bodo212 [16k\]: better now
SitaRam [?\]: much better
Titonio [-\]: much better now : )
SILD [6k\]: better
agui [7k\]: now is ok
Janus37 [6k\]: great !!!!
Stalker [8k\]: good
wingnut [-\]: better thx
manakem10 [12k\]: better, thx
Ruutana [4k\]: Much better, thank you.
farid [18k\]: thx
godspeed [-\]: much better thx
Scribe [-\]: MUCH BETTER
braincrash [?\]: much better sound
JeffAmid [-\]: reaal good
totylkoja [?\]: better
Inkognito [2k?\]: n18 or
Tors [?\]: great
SitaRam [?\]: now it rocks
Inkognito [2k?\]: n19
seidelin [10k\]: best sound ever!
whendrik [14k\]: n18
]
;W[mb]CR[mb]C[Bomberman [17k\]: a 5d didi n19 to me once :(
Bomberman [17k\]: with black
]
;B[oa]CR[oa]C[whendrik [14k\]: N19
saodiseng [1d\]: white n19
Stalker [8k\]: n17
rayen [8k\]: O18 
agui [7k\]: o19
Vanya [10k?\]: o19
scKevinjf [23k\]: O17 
mallow [15k\]: O19, that's what N18 was for
Bomberman [17k\]: o 19 doest work ?
JeffAmid [-\]: o19
whendrik [14k\]: n19!
farid [18k\]: o19
seidelin [10k\]: sound is still good
Blaubaer [6d?\]: n19
puzi [?\]: n19
Vanya [10k?\]: n17
rayen [8k\]: nm19 ?
whendrik [14k\]: yes
saodiseng [1d\]: n19
]
(;W[na]CR[na]C[SitaRam [?\]: o17 must
rayen [8k\]: L19 
MRei [?\]: o 17
whendrik [14k\]: o17
]
(;B[pa]CR[pa])
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[puzi [?\]: o17
]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[ka]CR[ka]C[puzi [?\]: m18
SitaRam [?\]: yeah
farid [18k\]: m18
SitaRam [?\]: one eye
agui [7k\]: OOOOO
Conch [13k\]: n17
])
(;B[ka]CR[ka]
;W[nc]CR[nc]C[rayen [8k\]: oh I see
]))
(;W[nb]CR[nb]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: n19
]
;B[ka]CR[ka]C[whendrik [14k\]: L19
]
;W[la]CR[la]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: yes normal sound still 
]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[ja]CR[ja]
;B[mc]CR[mc]C[SitaRam [?\]: yes
Vanya [10k?\]: 019
Bamsen [4k\]: no audio anymore?
Conch [13k\]: fine
Scribe [-\]: we can hear fine
wingnut [-\]: audio is fine
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: audio fine
whendrik [14k\]: I have still audio
scKevinjf [23k\]: I can hear ya
pel [10k\]: audio is great
puzi [?\]: audio perfext
go [10k\]: so N18 was wrong 
SILD [6k\]: audio is good
agui [7k\]: audio good
godspeed [-\]: sound is fine
Bamsen [4k\]: oh
SitaRam [?\]: audio is super
])
(;W[ma]CR[ma]C[rayen [8k\]: n19*
Titonio [-\]: and a w for white is drawn
]
;B[ka]CR[ka]C[saodiseng [1d\]: n17
whendrik [14k\]: N17
Bamsen [4k\]: n17
Blaubaer [6d?\]: n16
puzi [?\]: in a symetrical position, play in the center :)
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[rayen [8k\]: what a funny tsumego
Bamsen [4k\]: x)
Bamsen [4k\]: true
Ruutana [4k\]: ^_^
rayen [8k\]: :)
HeinBloed: looks like the head from a ant
agui [7k\]: Very very Nice problem
SitaRam [?\]: no
Inkognito [2k?\]: no
manakem10 [12k\]: not at the moment
rayen [8k\]: I think this shape occours in real game actually ^^Å
rayen [8k\]: sometimes
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]C[mallow [15k\]: it's a smiley face
]
;W[nc]CR[nc]C[SitaRam [?\]: hihi
]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: ^^
agui [7k\]: haha
])
(;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[la]CR[la]))
(;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[Scribe [-\]: New Homework
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[farid [18k\]: thx
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[uwinmenow [?\]: o.O
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[pa]CR[pa]C[Vanya [10k?\]: new joseki?
]
;B[aa]CR[aa]C[uwinmenow [?\]: i'm guessing
]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[md]CR[md]C[xDarigaaz [8k?\]: :)
]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[ab]CR[ab]C[uwinmenow [?\]: wat;s a19 for?
]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[la]CR[la]C[pinguienas [8k?\]: moyo move :)
thecloudz [13k\]: it's a problem. . .
]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[ka]CR[ka]C[puzi [?\]: showoff-tesuji
]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[mallow [15k\]: The idea of those moves is, if white surrounds them ,it's a dead shape inside
Puffin [12k\]: pleas be quiet puzi
uwinmenow [?\]: black
murky: B to defend
uwinmenow [?\]: black's turn
murky: W to attack
pianistgo [9k\]: it's w's turn
wingnut [-\]: This weeks Homework. White to play 
agui [7k\]: White's turn
Blaubaer [6d?\]: thank you :-9
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
Pilsun [14k\]: thank you.
uwinmenow [?\]: thanks
murky: Thanks 
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: thank you
TheCapture [14k\]: thanks a lot for the lession and homework
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu Laoshi
Domsablos [23k\]: thankyou ^^_^
noel [10k\]: thank you for teaching
SILD [6k\]: thank you
Puffin [12k\]: thank you
Skatagh [12k?\]: thanks!!!
Scribe [-\]: Thanks tothe Ing Goe Foundation
SitaRam [?\]: thx you too
au2 [4k\]: thanks to Scribe
uwinmenow [?\]: jajajjaja
aleph0 [-\]: 6thank you
GoShadow [8k\]: thx
wholeboard [7k\]: thanks!
MRei [?\]: thank you
thecloudz [13k\]: 谢谢
]))
(;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[pp]CR[pp]C[SitaRam [?\]: aji killa
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[puzi [?\]: thank you move by b
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[whendrik [14k\]: Did you play white?
]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
(;W[oc]CR[oc]C[godspeed [-\]: d10
SitaRam [?\]: o16
thecloudz [13k\]: 11 is light fast play. . .  seems ok
hansb [5k\]: P18
hansb [5k\]: P18
agui [7k\]: O16
kouchi [3k\]: o15?
agui [7k\]: no
puzi [?\]: aji and not that strong :D
]
(;B[jd]LB[nc:5][oc:10][dd:3][jd:11][pd:2][qf:6][pn:8][dp:1][jp:9][pp:4][nq:7]C[Scribe [-\]: 11 is a bad move
SitaRam [?\]: ah
SitaRam [?\]: understand
]
(;W[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: black 13 corrects previous mistake
godspeed [-\]: is this result balanced
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]LB[oc:A]C[puzi [?\]: w p17 looks like a mistake
agui [7k\]: perfect for black
SitaRam [?\]: agree
godspeed [-\]: harder for w to develop on right?
uwinmenow [?\]: if white plays o16 where does black play
MRei [?\]: zes
SitaRam [?\]: left side
Zark [4k\]: C14
Blaubaer [6d?\]: y not c6?
]
(;W[lq]LB[nc:5][oc:10][dd:3][jd:11][nd:13][pd:2][qf:6][cj:12][pn:8][dp:1][jp:9][pp:4][lq:14][nq:7]C[rayen [8k\]: I dont know ... im just sure ive seen the shape before ^^
puzi [?\]: i like black ^^'
Imoto [11k?\]: puh
go [10k\]: M4 
rayen [8k\]: I like w
mallow [15k\]: R3?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: m3 hm?
manakem10 [12k\]: doesnt look really balanced from white
wingnut [-\]: is P17 good?
puzi [?\]: and m3 too early
thecloudz [13k\]: m4
go [10k\]: C10 at O16 
scKevinjf [23k\]: Q10 or something?
farid [18k\]: o5
SitaRam [?\]: good for b
seidelin [10k\]: what is the question?
Vanya [10k?\]: m4
puzi [?\]: p17 & m3 bad
totylkoja [?\]: p17 looks bad
puzi [?\]: 10 & 14 bad :)
Blaubaer [6d?\]: 14 too early?
SitaRam [?\]: 10 is bad
wingnut [-\]: 10
MRei [?\]: r3
go [10k\]: 12 at 13
totylkoja [?\]: 10 is bad
hansb [5k\]: 12
Inkognito [2k?\]: 13
farid [18k\]: 13 is bad
Imoto [11k?\]: 12 is nice
agui [7k\]: 11 is bad
hansb [5k\]: 13 is good
project [11k\]: good 
Bodo212 [16k\]: 13  ok
ahgo2 [-\]: good
puzi [?\]: 13 is good, 10 bad :p
agui [7k\]: good
Imoto [11k?\]: 13 is good i think
thecloudz [13k\]: 13 is good
SitaRam [?\]: 11 bad
Scribe [-\]: 13 is a good move
SitaRam [?\]: yes
puzi [?\]: yes
]
(;B[ch]CR[ch])
(;B[qq]CR[qq]C[Imoto [11k?\]: What is better C 14 or C 6
]
;W[pq]CR[pq]C[seku [8k\]: the other day a 8d decided to challenge me on igs  ^^ isnt 8d on igs close to professional level?
]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[ro]CR[ro]C[Scribe [-\]: white m3 is an error
SitaRam [?\]: bad
agui [7k\]: s6
uwinmenow [?\]: s7
agui [7k\]: S6
ivanho [10k\]: c6
pianistgo [9k\]: hihi
ahgo2 [-\]: what if b s2 instead of r2, and then s6 instead of s5 ?
]
(;W[rn]CR[rn]C[uwinmenow [?\]: -.-
Vanya [10k?\]: s6
SitaRam [?\]: hihi
SitaRam [?\]: he played the game?
scKevinjf [23k\]: R10 ?
Vanya [10k?\]: Bs4
SitaRam [?\]: like the summer sky
]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[oo]CR[oo]C[Imoto [11k?\]: Who played this game (Name and Rank) 
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[uwinmenow [?\]: i think
Scribe [-\]: c14 move valuable than c6 as the top is more developable for black
uwinmenow [?\]: wait n
wingnut [-\]: O4 
zonk: n5
]
(;W[on]CR[on]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: no tenuki?
]
;B[nr]CR[nr])
(;W[np]CR[np]C[MRei [?\]: o 4
MarcD [8k\]: o6
pinguienas [8k?\]: C14 
Blaubaer [6d?\]: c6
scKevinjf [23k\]: O6 
Janus37 [6k\]: and why c14 rather than c6 ?????
uwinmenow [?\]: no summer sky these days xD
Scribe [-\]:  c14 move valuable than c6 as the top is more developable for black
thecloudz [13k\]: CUT
SitaRam [?\]: :(
MRei [?\]: cut
pinguienas [8k?\]: C12 
seidelin [10k\]: c12
agui [7k\]: P6
wingnut [-\]: O2 
Blaubaer [6d?\]: c8
Imoto [11k?\]: ?
]
(;B[on]CR[on]C[Janus37 [6k\]: c14 ;)
totylkoja [?\]:  c14
seidelin [10k\]: gote for white
]
;W[]
;B[nr]CR[nr])
(;B[ch]LB[ch:C][cj:D][jp:B][np:A]C[Janus37 [6k\]: ok thx scribe
]
;W[cm]CR[cm]LB[cj:A]
;B[co]CR[co]LB[jp:A])
(;B[fq]CR[fq])
(;B[ng]CR[ng]C[godspeed [-\]: oO
Imoto [11k?\]: ?
SitaRam [?\]: surprising
agui [7k\]: no
Myshkin [18k\]: no
Imoto [11k?\]: Hm well I'm not the brain of black^^
MRei [?\]: no
godspeed [-\]: ot of focus
pinguienas [8k?\]: except for D14 /E14 /E12 
]
(;W[cf]CR[cf])
(;W[cg]CR[cg]LB[df:A][ef:B][eg:C]C[fryskenfry [17k\]: d11 is ok here? 
binky [12k\]: c7 better
thecloudz [13k\]: shoulder  A
SitaRam [?\]: yeah
Scribe [-\]: d14 is better than e14 and e13 for black
fryskenfry [17k\]: why is d11-c11-d13 wrong, compared to e13? 
uwinmenow [?\]: but i thought u said that b was best
swilks [7k\]: if black d14, is whites correct response to slide b15?
pinguienas [8k?\]: so what is blacks best move?
thecloudz [13k\]: no 
uwinmenow [?\]: -.-
]
(;B[eg]CR[eg]C[SitaRam [?\]: no
agui [7k\]: no
Imoto [11k?\]: hm
seidelin [10k\]: yes
Imoto [11k?\]: caping attack
thecloudz [13k\]: ok
Myshkin [18k\]: ok
agui [7k\]: too lose
seidelin [10k\]: big moyo
seku [8k\]: after black has one more on top side?
seku [8k\]: thats too loose to call a moyo ^^
uwinmenow [?\]: lol
totylkoja [?\]: I thing e14 is better
agui [7k\]: white G14
totylkoja [?\]: *think
]
(;W[fc]CR[fc]C[farid [18k\]: for white
Bamsen [4k\]: so how to answer F17 in the first place?
]
(;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[uwinmenow [?\]: w is atking b?
]
(;B[df]CR[df]C[agui [7k\]: G14 instead of F17
]
(;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: very overconcentrated
]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
(;W[jb]CR[jb]
(;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
(;B[je]CR[je]
;W[ge]CR[ge]TR[kb][jc][nc][jd][nd][ie][je][hf][ng]C[Scribe [-\]: white lives
godspeed [-\]: w happy
Vanya [10k?\]: c8
SitaRam [?\]: overcon
Scribe [-\]: white lives inside black moyo
agui [7k\]: where is black moyo ?  :)
go [10k\]: korigatachi
Inkognito [2k?\]: w lives
Scribe [-\]: black is inefficient
])
(;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[farid [18k\]: why not c G14?
]))
(;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[kd]CR[kd]TR[fc][fd]))
(;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[ib]CR[ib]))
(;W[gf]CR[gf]C[farid [18k\]: yes
scKevinjf [23k\]: H17 b?
]
;B[hd]CR[hd]C[Hu [10k?\]: "Running with keima is like running with scissors, you get cut"
Scribe [-\]: black attacks
]))
(;B[ee]CR[ee]C[Scribe [-\]: horrible move e13
]
(;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Domsablos [23k\]: black was more than 4d
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
(;B[je]CR[je]
;W[ge]CR[ge]LB[ee:B][df:A]C[pinguienas [8k?\]: is Black doublehane at H14 correct?
godspeed [-\]: yes
SitaRam [?\]: yes
Pilsun [14k\]: yep
Sonni [13k\]: yes
MRei [?\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: clear
agui [7k\]: Yes very clear  Thank you
murky: as clear as CA sky
uwinmenow [?\]: ya
godspeed [-\]: crystal :)
thecloudz [13k\]: clear!  thanks
Bodo212 [16k\]: thx - thx to scibe too
Blaubaer [6d?\]: yes 
Vanya [10k?\]: clear
SitaRam [?\]: thx mingjiu
Inkognito [2k?\]: thx
uwinmenow [?\]: thx 
kiyosumi [1k\]: thx
Balator [17k\]: thx
SitaRam [?\]: of course
Vanya [10k?\]: thanks
Zark [4k\]: thanks
Janus37 [6k\]: thanks !
Scribe [-\]: New Homework Please
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: thank you
MRei [?\]: thank you
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
YukiMitani [21k\]: thx
Blackstorm [11k\]: zhx
Balator [17k\]: au revoir
Blackstorm [11k\]: thx
godspeed [-\]: thx
]
(;B[gf]CR[gf]TR[kd][ld][md][ke][le][kf][lf])
(;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[fb]CR[fb]))
(;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[kc]CR[kc]))
(;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[ic]CR[ic]C[Scribe [-\]: white k18 gives good chance to black
]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
(;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[ha]CR[ha]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[Scribe [-\]: very hard for whtie
])
(;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
(;W[je]CR[je]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[jf]CR[jf])
(;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[jf]CR[jf]TR[fc][hc][nc][qc][fd][gd][hd][nd]))))
(;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[agui [7k\]: ??
Vanya [10k?\]: both
]))
(;B[hc]CR[hc]))
(;W[gf]CR[gf]C[agui [7k\]: yes
jambo [22k?\]: h16
jambo [22k?\]: ?
seidelin [10k\]: lol
godspeed [-\]: lol
Scribe [-\]: useless move
kerem74 [21k\]: :)
]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[seku [8k\]: ^^ better move to apply the idea?
]))
(;B[ef]CR[ef])
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
(;B[hd]CR[hd])
(;B[eg]CR[eg]))
(;B[di]CR[di]
(;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[df]CR[df]C[Scribe [-\]: possible to force at d11 first
])
(;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[ci]CR[ci])))))
(;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[on]CR[on])
(;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[nr]CR[nr])
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [-\]: hard for white to find a continuation 
]
;B[on]CR[on]))
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[SitaRam [?\]: yes
Imoto [11k?\]: well yes
agui [7k\]: yes very clear thqnks
pianistgo [9k\]: clear
Bodo212 [16k\]: yes
ruger [16k\]: yes
Domsablos [23k\]: yes
])))
(;W[cf]CR[cf]C[mallow [15k\]: D6
Scribe [-\]: c14 is correct play for white
]))
(;W[nd]CR[nd]TR[nc][oc]C[kouchi [3k\]: o16 makes it less complex, don't have to worry about corner later?
SitaRam [?\]: hm
agui [7k\]: I agree
Blaubaer [6d?\]: b looks so fast 
hansb [5k\]: black N17?
puzi [?\]: always agree 1^^
uwinmenow [?\]: o.O
Vanya [10k?\]: me too
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Janus37 [6k\]: but the thre other w stones are strange ?
thecloudz [13k\]: 谢谢
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[godspeed [-\]: i like influence over territory :)
]))
(;B[dj]CR[dj]LB[nc:A][oc:B]C[Scribe [-\]: black stone at o17 needs more liberties
rayen [8k\]: good for both
Imoto [11k?\]: O 17 is alone :-/
project [11k\]: no
SitaRam [?\]: for w
whendrik [14k\]: w
Vanya [10k?\]: for white
agui [7k\]: for white
scKevinjf [23k\]: white
kouchi [3k\]: o16 for b
whendrik [14k\]: I hear nice birds!
go [10k\]: O16 
]
(;W[jd]CR[jd]C[rayen [8k\]: O16 
SitaRam [?\]: k16
thecloudz [13k\]: k16
Xanthus [5k?\]: O16 
whendrik [14k\]: K16
puzi [?\]: k16
Sonni [13k\]: k16
seidelin [10k\]: o16
Janus37 [6k\]: o16 would be overconcentrated
pianistgo [9k\]: k16
uwinmenow [?\]: k16
ivanho [10k\]: o16
farid [18k\]: k16
scKevinjf [23k\]: K16 
Hu [10k?\]: It's morning in California.
xDarigaaz [8k?\]: k16
murky: sunshine CA
Scribe [-\]: white o16 removes all aji from the black stone at o17
])
(;W[nd]CR[nd]C[agui [7k\]: yes
rayen [8k\]: ^^
SitaRam [?\]: hm
uwinmenow [?\]: u would?
Scribe [-\]: white o16 better than k16 at this moment
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[murky: we like o16
murky: for W
]))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]C[SitaRam [?\]: o16
go [10k\]: is it a matter of style ?
kouchi [3k\]: so 11 should be o16
Imoto [11k?\]: How goes w go on?
]
;W[kd]CR[kd]C[uwinmenow [?\]: didn't u just skip white? 
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[of]CR[of]C[SitaRam [?\]: urgent point
])
(;B[ob]CR[ob]C[murky: f17
Scribe [-\]: p18 is worse tha o16
Scribe [-\]: after p18 white will force black low
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]))
(;W[lc]CR[lc]C[SitaRam [?\]: yes
])
(;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[uwinmenow [?\]: lol
])
(;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[nd]CR[nd]C[Scribe [-\]: hard for white to attack the two black stones at o17 and o16 in this variation
puzi [?\]: no
agui [7k\]: for white no
puzi [?\]: wall stronger than kosumi
SitaRam [?\]: yes
agui [7k\]: yes
Bodo212 [16k\]: yes thx
SitaRam [?\]: crystel
SitaRam [?\]: hihi
Blaubaer [6d?\]: yes very good
thecloudz [13k\]: 如果白下O16,  黑要下那里?
SitaRam [?\]: of course
]))
(;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[rayen [8k\]: r8 !
Inkognito [2k?\]: h18
SitaRam [?\]: q17
godspeed [-\]: h15?
]
(;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Vanya [10k?\]: aji keshi
]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[puzi [?\]: lol
thecloudz [13k\]: very good
MRei [?\]: good for white
thecloudz [13k\]: for white
agui [7k\]: good for white
Bodo212 [16k\]: like W
Imoto [11k?\]: w is happy^^
rayen [8k\]: both ^^
ivanho [10k\]: now p17 is better...?
puzi [?\]: thank you move by b
SitaRam [?\]: good for w
Scribe [-\]: here white has the pincer stone at k16 in place
puzi [?\]: always
rayen [8k\]: I would rather R8 
Scribe [-\]: therefore the white touch weak stone at p17 is a good move
])
(;B[gd]CR[gd]C[MRei [?\]: tengen?
])
(;B[hc]CR[hc]C[Janus37 [6k\]: k10 !!!!!
Vanya [10k?\]: k10
])
(;B[jj]CR[jj])))
(;B[qd]CR[qd])
(;B[pd]CR[pd]))
