(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-02-26]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[birne [1k\]: Mr. Yang Huiren
agui [6k\]: yes
murky: one more
BlueJays [-\]: no
noel [10k\]: yes, please
RocheL [-\]: why not
noel [10k\]: :)
]
(;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[sd]CR[sd]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[ba]CR[ba]C[playgo [6k\]: hi
]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[ab]CR[ab]C[wingnut [-\]: can hear you
Aivonix [13k\]: ++
krisprolls [8k\]: CU
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: ok sounds good
Pilsun [17k\]: T17 to kill
Conch [13k\]: hello
wingnut [-\]: wb
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: yes
agui [6k\]: yes
draugluin [15k\]: yes
Tarkam [9k?\]: yes
dogenzenji [22k\]: yes
krisprolls [8k\]: yes
foom [23k\]: yup
totylkoja [?\]: yes
mb76 [20k\]: yes 
Tarkam [9k?\]: np
foom [23k\]: we can hear you
noel [10k\]: hello
murky: yes,now
Conch [13k\]: hi
]
;W[sf]CR[sf]C[murky: Hi,MingJiu LaoShi
Bodo212 [15k\]: good afternoon
dogenzenji [22k\]: Ni hao, everyone.
murky: This wasn't the problem from last week. 
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Jiang Mingjiu Laoshi
olczyk [14k\]: Hello
olczyk [14k\]: Yoda vs Li Chang Ho today?
murky: Hi Scribe
Scribe [-\]: helolo
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: hi
Aivonix [13k\]: oh this was in the + class too
murky: no sound here
DrGoPlayer [-\]: yes still set to no audio
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: wheres the sound?
wingnut [-\]: that's because the audio is not turned on yet
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: hello?
murky: seems that way, isn't it
Pilsun [17k\]: white to kill ?
murky: I bring MingJiu Laoshi a cup of tea
dogenzenji [22k\]: Patience, you must have.
hansb [5k\]: how many ways?
moichido [11k\]: dogenzenji = yoda ?
Aivonix [13k\]: 2
moichido [11k\]: hi
Pilsun [17k\]: Hi
Conch [13k\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: Hello
Uvas [-\]: hi
krisprolls [8k\]: hi
ljl [12k\]: T17!
Aivonix [13k\]: hi
Zark [4k\]: hi
kilroy [6k\]: hello
swilks [7k\]: hi
Aivonix [13k\]: ++
ljl [12k\]: morning
Aivonix [13k\]: ++++
BruceLeroy [8k\]: hello
swilks [7k\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: yes
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: not very good sound
Bodo212 [15k\]: we hear  - but little slow
murky: a bit lagging
wingnut [-\]: a bit of lag
Gwen [17k\]: yes
Aivonix [13k\]: <lag
Bodo212 [15k\]: hear only very slow
Nobby [16k\]: i hear about nothing
Scribe [-\]: hello
Conch [13k\]: yes  i can hear you
kilroy [6k\]: hello
murky: hear now
swilks [7k\]: hello
Aivonix [13k\]: hi
Scribe [-\]: yes we can hear
Stalker [8k\]: hi
swilks [7k\]: better now than before
swilks [7k\]: no
bigfish [6k?\]: that doesn't kill
agui [6k\]: no
noel [10k\]: no
]
;B[bb]CR[bb]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: hello^^
Scribe [-\]: White to play
Aivonix [13k\]: S16 T17  < 2 ways 
Conch [13k\]: t17
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: 2
Scribe [-\]: How many ways for White to kill Black
Conch [13k\]: 2
noel [10k\]: 2
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: T17 and T18 :)
playgo [6k\]: 1
agui [6k\]: 2
wingnut [-\]: 5 :P
hansb [5k\]: 2
Blaubaer [6d\]: ~2
Zark [4k\]: 2
aditsu [11k\]: 3 (including nuclear tesuji)
Aivonix [13k\]: or 3 even
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: 2
agui [6k\]: 3
Conch [13k\]: t18 is ko i think
Aivonix [13k\]: T18 
ljl [12k\]: S16 T17 T18
BruceLeroy [8k\]: T18
Aivonix [13k\]: yeah T18 ko
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: T18 isnt ko
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: yes
BruceLeroy [8k\]: yes
Pilsun [17k\]: yes
Conch [13k\]: yes
kilroy [6k\]: yes
krisprolls [8k\]: yes
bigfish [6k?\]: yes
noel [10k\]: yes
Quinn [11k?\]: 2 2/4 ways to kill ^^
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: 2 way
Aivonix [13k\]: 2 :)
bigfish [6k?\]: 2
BruceLeroy [8k\]: 1
noel [10k\]: 1
bigfish [6k?\]: 2
bluemark [?\]: One
Pilsun [17k\]: 1
kilroy [6k\]: 1
JamesJoker [7k\]: 1
hansb [5k\]: 2
ruger [19k\]: 1
totylkoja [?\]: 2
hansb [5k\]: 3?
Aivonix [13k\]: oh ok 1
BruceLeroy [8k\]: T18
Conch [13k\]: t 17
noel [10k\]: T18
Pilsun [17k\]: t17
murky: t15
Aivonix [13k\]: T17 
agui [6k\]: T17,  t18, S16
hansb [5k\]: S16?
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: no
agui [6k\]: S16
Quinn [11k?\]: s16 doenst kill
]
(;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[sc]CR[sc]C[noel [10k\]: S16
kilroy [6k\]: S16
BruceLeroy [8k\]: S16
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[hansb [5k\]: S16
Blaubaer [6d\]: s16
]
;B[re]CR[re]C[kilroy [6k\]: R15
noel [10k\]: R15
BruceLeroy [8k\]: T15
hansb [5k\]: T15
ljl [12k\]: t15
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[se]CR[se]C[agui [6k\]: t515
kilroy [6k\]: T15
])
(;W[sc]CR[sc]
;B[re]CR[re]C[Quinn [11k?\]: s17
noel [10k\]: T18
agui [6k\]: s17
ljl [12k\]: t15
Blaubaer [6d\]: t18
Pilsun [17k\]: t15
kilroy [6k\]: T18
Zark [4k\]: T15 
Pilsun [17k\]: t15 then t18
agui [6k\]: no
]
(;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[bigfish [6k?\]: no
]
(;W[se]CR[se]C[noel [10k\]: ko
Blaubaer [6d\]: no
BruceLeroy [8k\]: no
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: no
BruceLeroy [8k\]: \\R15
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: its ko
]
;B[qe]CR[qe])
(;W[qe]CR[qe]))
(;W[se]CR[se]C[agui [6k\]: ko
hansb [5k\]: ko
bigfish [6k?\]: ko
]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[murky: ko
]))
(;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]C[xDarigaaz [9k?\]: s16 is ko i think
bigfish [6k?\]: ko
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[Aivonix [13k\]: so 2 :D
]
(;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[se]CR[se])
(;W[se]CR[se]
;B[sb]CR[sb]
;W[rd]CR[rd])))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Scribe [-\]: Game between
Dootar [-\]: homework....?
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
(;B[cn]CR[cn]C[rayen [9k\]: after the pincer
rayen [9k\]: I think I saw LCH pla yhsomething like that
aditsu [11k\]: I can hear
Aivonix [13k\]: D6 then?
murky: Lee played two days ago
rayen [9k\]: the way you showed
krisprolls [8k\]: he may have choose D6 instead of C6
Uberdude [13k\]: is this a real game? between who?
RocheL [-\]: *d15
]
(;W[dk]CR[dk]C[aditsu [11k\]: d15
]
(;B[en]CR[en]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Scribe [-\]: black c6 is an error of direction
]
(;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]LB[bp:A]
(;B[bk]CR[bk]
;W[de]CR[de]TR[bk][cn][en][bp][cq]C[rayen [9k\]: who are the players ?
aditsu [11k\]: .. white and black
Blaubaer [6d\]: :-)
bigfish [6k?\]: I like
Scribe [-\]: the first twenty moves of this game
Quinn [11k?\]: i kinda do
SakuraHime [8k?\]: i like w
bigfish [6k?\]: white
rayen [9k\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: evaluate the position
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: i like black
rayen [9k\]: I like b
kilroy [6k\]: i like black
swilks [7k\]: white seems better
ljl [12k\]: looks low 
Quinn [11k?\]: like b
Scribe [-\]: which is better ? black or white
silver2k4 [2k?\]: hmm..
Grimley [6k\]: i like both
Grimley [6k\]: :(
Conch [13k\]: w seems better to me
Grimley [6k\]: yes.. don't see mistakes
Quinn [11k?\]: w seems inefficient
ljl [12k\]: Black Looks low
Conch [13k\]: b looks low
hansb [5k\]: i like white, black is too low on th eleft
Scribe [-\]: black has played two stones on the second line
Scribe [-\]: game good for white
Pilsun [17k\]: I agree with you. =)
Quinn [11k?\]: ok, ok, go on :p
Scribe [-\]: so when is the lower left joseki good to play ?
Conch [13k\]: doesnt proberb say 1st to play 2nd line loses
rayen [9k\]: wrong joseki choice ?
draugluin [15k\]: E6 
Blaubaer [6d\]: b4?
noned [4k\]: c16
ljl [12k\]: lower left
playgo [6k\]: D16 
monk316 [12k\]: looks better for white to me but can you explain why
agui [6k\]: E6
aditsu [11k\]: e6
Quinn [11k?\]: b4
BruceLeroy [8k\]: C6
kilroy [6k\]: choice of stone in teh uppper left
laurens [10k?\]: C6
Nobby [16k\]: c6
rayen [9k\]: hm
rayen [9k\]: E6 
hansb [5k\]: E6
Conch [13k\]: lower left
rayen [9k\]: can b play C11  instead of E6 ?
Scribe [-\]: black choose the wrong joseki in the lower left
murky: double wing approach?
Aivonix [13k\]: +++++++++++++++++++
]
(;B[ce]CR[ce]C[Quinn [11k?\]: ill do it in 6
]
;W[df]CR[df]TR[bk][bp]C[Scribe [-\]: Black is low on the left
silver2k4 [2k?\]: play play?
agui [6k\]: no
silver2k4 [2k?\]: no
Quinn [11k?\]: no
Conch [13k\]: no
bigfish [6k?\]: no
Blaubaer [6d\]: b c14?
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dg]CR[dg]C[Scribe [-\]: game is good for white
]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: can play play this joseki ?  no.
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[Aivonix [13k\]: w better
ljl [12k\]: its a free country
Conch [13k\]: loses corner stones
]
;W[bg]CR[bg]C[Zark [4k\]: no
rayen [9k\]: no
])
(;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[agui [6k\]: Where should black play instead of C6 ?
Scribe [-\]: game.....result is good for white
]
(;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[bl]CR[bl]C[kilroy [6k\]: hello
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[ck]CR[ck]C[aditsu [11k\]: that's what I want to know too.. but he won't tell us
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[bj]CR[bj])
(;B[ck]TR[ce][de][bk][ck]C[oeillet [9k?\]: d15 probably
Scribe [-\]: game
aditsu [11k\]: I suppose.. but he didn't clarify
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: hello?
Stormer [7k\]: i like this better than the game
Scribe [-\]: therefore pincer after white s16 move
]
(;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: w s16 - r17?
swilks [7k\]: white should r11 directly?
Scribe [-\]: very simple for white now
]
;B[gc]CR[gc]TR[nd][qf][qi][qn]C[Yemon [7k\]: good for black
swilks [7k\]: n
Quinn [11k?\]: good for b
Zark [4k\]: R14 better at P17?
ljl [12k\]: better than the lower left
agui [6k\]: yes
Quinn [11k?\]: right side not interesting
Aivonix [13k\]: ++
Scribe [-\]: black lost a lot on the left and even joseki result in top right
Scribe [-\]: white is ahead
birne [1k\]: Is black G17 sente?
]
(;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[gd]CR[gd]C[draugluin [15k\]: nice honte 
]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
(;B[dc]CR[dc]TR[fc][gd]C[rayen [9k\]: hm
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu, as white,  worries about d17 for black
draugluin [15k\]: B18 ?
tablescrap [8k?\]: probably
Zark [4k\]: in ko?
swilks [7k\]: b17?
Scribe [-\]: very hard to kill black after d17
draugluin [15k\]: very bad for w
Conch [13k\]: bad
silver2k4 [2k?\]: bad
Scribe [-\]: makes f17, g16 exchange bad for white
Blaubaer [6d\]: aha yes ...
])
(;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qe]CR[qe]LB[cc:H][fg:F][gg:B][hg:J][qg:G][gh:D][nh:I][oi:C][oj:E][jo:A]TR[pf][ph]C[oeillet [9k?\]: k5
noel [10k\]: G13
Uberdude [13k\]: tengen!
rayen [9k\]: P11 ?
Yemon [7k\]: G13
playgo [6k\]: G14 
draugluin [15k\]: P10 ?
Quinn [11k?\]: f13
agui [6k\]: Q13
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: r13?
rayen [9k\]: maybe not :p
daikon [12k?\]: R13
rayen [9k\]: probably to slow
ruger [19k\]: c17
VroBanshee [?\]: O12
Dootar [-\]: I thought about r9....
Dootar [-\]: seems kinda passive thoiugh
rayen [9k\]: I like B
hansb [5k\]: H13
hena [10k?\]: s17?
swilks [7k\]: d10
aditsu [11k\]: r9
Stormer [7k\]: hehe
Pilsun [17k\]: G?
Stormer [7k\]: J
bigfish [6k?\]: B
noel [10k\]: J
rayen [9k\]: j
murky: we are about to know
wingnut [-\]: demoted?
rayen [9k\]: :-)
draugluin [15k\]: G5 also 
rayen [9k\]: shape ?
Yemon [7k\]: interesting
Scribe [-\]: after h13, white f15 is not sente
rayen [9k\]: I wonder what mingjiu like :)
murky: J is higher 
Quinn [11k?\]: same as c?
Scribe [-\]: slow
Conch [13k\]: open on left
]
(;B[hg]CR[hg]C[Uberdude [13k\]: but Q11 P11 Q13 breaks in
Conch [13k\]: j
Blaubaer [6d\]: g4?
jantiff [?\]: stay just behind sector lines
Dootar [-\]: yes
]
(;W[fe]CR[fe]C[Scribe [-\]: g13 allows white to fix by playing f15 in sente
])
(;W[lh]CR[lh]TR[ka][la][ma][na][kb][lb][mb][nb][kc][lc][mc][nc][pf][ph]C[Dootar [-\]: nooo
Scribe [-\]: white outside and sente is move valuable than the territory black gets in the continuatiuon after black m14
birne [1k\]: very nice explanation
Yemon [7k\]: yes
silver2k4 [2k?\]: yes
kilroy [6k\]: yes
Pilsun [17k\]: yep
agui [6k\]: yes very clear
draugluin [15k\]: very clear!
Blaubaer [6d\]: :-)
RocheL [-\]: yep
Xikkuh [11k\]: yes
hansb [5k\]: pretty clear
noel [10k\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes
aditsu [11k\]: clearer than scribe
tibra [12k?\]: yes
VorteXR [10k\]: yes
Dootar [-\]: lol
Dootar [-\]: yeah, clear
Quinn [11k?\]: this sentence, no verb
Scribe [-\]: m12 is proper reduction
Scribe [-\]: dont touch the opponents stronger place when reducing moyo
]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[kg]CR[kg]C[silver2k4 [2k?\]: no
draugluin [15k\]: very good for w
]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[jf]CR[jf][jg][kg][lh]TR[ka][la][ma][kb][lb][mb][kc][lc][mc]SQ[id][jd][kd][ld][md][ie][je][ke][le][me]C[ljl [12k\]: looks like white is getting back in the game
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: a lot
murky: too crowded
Yemon [7k\]: little
birne [1k\]: yes
]
;W[gn]CR[gn]C[rayen [9k\]: no
RocheL [-\]: good for w
agui [6k\]: no
Yemon [7k\]: no
Dootar [-\]: ouch
])
(;W[jg]CR[pf][jg][ph]TR[gc][jc][gd][hg]SQ[qc][nd][pd]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: deep...
Quinn [11k?\]: cap
Zark [4k\]: deep
Scribe [-\]: better to reduce first at k5 than to play h13 as black
noel [10k\]: maybe too deep?
Dootar [-\]: huh
murky: looking for trouble
Dootar [-\]: doesn't look tooi deep to me oO
Dootar [-\]: too*
aditsu [11k\]: too close to left side
Scribe [-\]: the left stones are stronger than the right stones, the q12 and q14 stones are particularly weak
Scribe [-\]: to reduce moyo touch  the stronger stones
silver2k4 [2k?\]: hehe
Uberdude [13k\]: can b play m13 after m12?
]
(;B[ii]CR[ii]C[Scribe [-\]: white can not play k13
]
(;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[kh]CR[kh]C[wingnut [-\]: reduce near opponent weak area
])
(;W[kh]CR[kh]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[hq]CR[hq]C[aditsu [11k\]: he has a rabbit in the hat
]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[rayen [9k\]: holy :S
Xikkuh [11k\]: yes
Sonni [13k\]: yes
aditsu [11k\]: haha
Bodo212 [15k\]: b
hansb [5k\]: it is magic
agui [6k\]: yes
Dootar [-\]: wow
Scribe [-\]: black grows large
Yemon [7k\]: excellent for b
RocheL [-\]: P
ljl [12k\]:  W resigns?
Stormer [7k\]: mingjiu is scary
])
(;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[jj]CR[jj]C[Scribe [-\]: hane at m9 is hard for white due to q12 and q14 stones
]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[ik]CR[ik]
(;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[kk]CR[kk]
;W[lk]CR[lk]C[rayen [9k\]: game over
]
;B[lj]CR[lj]TR[pf][ph])
(;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [-\]: better than before for white but still bad for white
]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Dootar [-\]: ouch
Yemon [7k\]: still looks good for b
jezebel [17k\]: weak stones camed stongs..
])))
(;B[ji]CR[ji]C[Dootar [-\]: itouch weaker places then?
aditsu [11k\]: booo
Zark [4k\]: he wants to kill?
Scribe [-\]: no dont touch weak stones, they will get stronger in the process
Quinn [11k?\]: i wouldve done same ^^
wingnut [-\]: lag
aditsu [11k\]: he wants to get cut
aditsu [11k\]: terrible lag
Dootar [-\]: so doint touch anything.... got it ^^
hansb [5k\]: Mingjiu, can you repeat
RocheL [-\]: lag
rayen [9k\]: then b is sad 
]
;W[ih]CR[ih]C[Scribe [-\]: hard for black to kill these two white stones k13, j12
Uberdude [13k\]: dootar i think mingjiu said dont ATTACK strong stones not TOUCH
RocheL [-\]: we can hear you
rayen [9k\]: I hear you
clemi [?\]: hello
lewe [28k?\]: hey hey
aditsu [11k\]: hehe
Yemon [7k\]: yes
Pilsun [17k\]: hi
RocheL [-\]: lol
clemi [?\]: yes
aditsu [11k\]: we can "her" you
hansb [5k\]: i hear you
hena [10k?\]: yes, works now
jcbrookly1 [?\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: sound ok
murky: better
Dootar [-\]: hi
hena [10k?\]: latency
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: what happened?
RocheL [-\]: wtf
troll [2k\]: it says no audio but I can still hear mingjiu
oeillet [9k?\]: we lost sound
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: theres the sound?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
hena [10k?\]: now the audio dropped
Grimley [6k\]: rejoin if lost
rayen [9k\]: rejoin
lewe [28k?\]: (if you got an error, rejoin)
troll [2k\]: EOF now ><
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: where is the sound?
Grimley [6k\]: yes
Xikkuh [11k\]: yes
RocheL [-\]: omfg kgs lag o.0
pel [10k\]: yep
lewe [28k?\]: yes
agui [6k\]: yes
Morten [4k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
aditsu [11k\]: I can "her" you
tablescrap [8k?\]: sound is fine for me
]
;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[eh]CR[eh]C[Dootar [-\]: just rejoin iif youlose sound
]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[fk]CR[fk]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: ok good sound
rayen [9k\]: no
Bodo212 [15k\]: no
Xikkuh [11k\]: no
Morten [4k\]: no
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: no
Quinn [11k?\]: no
oeillet [9k?\]: yes, sound's better after rejoining :)
Scribe [-\]: game
Stormer [7k\]: no
Dootar [-\]: no
]
;B[ej]CR[ej]
;W[fj]CR[fj]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[hl]CR[hl]C[Scribe [-\]:  bad result for black
]
;B[jk]CR[jk]C[murky: B attacked
]
(;W[gn]CR[gn]C[RocheL [-\]: w atacks blacks two stones
Scribe [-\]: game
])
(;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[kg]CR[kg]
(;B[go]CR[go]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
(;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[li]CR[li])
(;B[li]CR[li]))
(;B[gn]CR[gn]
(;W[kd]CR[kd]C[Xikkuh [11k\]: trouble?
Zark [4k\]: loose?
rayen [9k\]: is a cut at E11 
aditsu [11k\]: he sounds like he stepped into some disgusting stuff
agui [6k\]: black in trouble
Zark [4k\]: black L15?
]
(;B[le]CR[le]C[Quinn [11k?\]: how is this supposed to work?
]
(;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[je]CR[je])
(;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[gb]CR[gb]C[Dootar [-\]: risky
murky: corner is bad aji
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[dc]CR[dc]))
(;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[hm]CR[hm]TR[ka][la][ma][na][kb][lb][mb][nb][jg]C[rayen [9k\]: w attacking b
aditsu [11k\]: w is attacking both b and w
murky: messy
tablescrap [8k?\]: w is attacking b
Yemon [7k\]: reduced
rayen [9k\]: no seemed very clear
murky: who won
Quinn [11k?\]: when should b play the corner?
hansb [5k\]: very interesting, this is what always happend in my games.
Bodo212 [15k\]: no - thx
aditsu [11k\]: how old are you?
Dootar [-\]: oO
oeillet [9k?\]: ??
Stormer [7k\]: I dont, thank you!
monk316 [12k\]: who won?
birne [1k\]: very nice lesson
agui [6k\]: How should black played instead of C6 at the beginning ?
birne [1k\]: thank you
Quinn [11k?\]: when should b play d17?
Yemon [7k\]: thank you
Uberdude [13k\]: cheers
monk316 [12k\]: who is better right now?
RocheL [-\]: who woooooooooooooooooooooon????????????????
hansb [5k\]: no you are not
Tarkam [9k?\]: yes
murky: homework
jcbrookly1 [?\]: type options score estimate
noel [10k\]: i would like
noel [10k\]: i did it
Xikkuh [11k\]: I do
hansb [5k\]: too difficult for me
ljl [12k\]: I do
Zark [4k\]: me
birne [1k\]: Mr. Jiang, could you explain your recent game
BlueJays [-\]: not me
birne [1k\]: with Mr. Yang some day?
ljl [12k\]: blakc to live in upper left?
noel [10k\]: yes
noel [10k\]: i have
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu, you played Yang Yilun recently ?
]))
(;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[mi]CR[mi])))))
(;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[li]CR[li]))
(;B[gg]CR[gg]C[Scribe [-\]: h13 better than g13
]
;W[fe]CR[fe])
(;B[gh]CR[gh])
(;B[oi]CR[oi]C[rayen [9k\]: forget c
rayen [9k\]: :p
Pilsun [17k\]: no
])
(;B[nh]CR[nh])
(;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[pg]CR[pg]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: hm g4?
Scribe [-\]: gote
Dootar [-\]: gote
Dootar [-\]: yeah
Conch [13k\]: gote
])
(;B[oj]CR[oj]C[Dootar [-\]: G foir gote:)
Yemon [7k\]: no
Quinn [11k?\]: w g14?
Stormer [7k\]: feels thin 
])
(;B[jo]CR[jo]C[Yemon [7k\]: so d looks nice to me now
Dootar [-\]: hm...
Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu likes k5 for black
Conch [13k\]: not me
akew [17k\]: nice move
aditsu [11k\]: oeillet 7p
Conch [13k\]: looks isolated
Scribe [-\]: k5 is more than 3 dan level move
]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[kr]CR[kr]
;B[jr]CR[jr])
(;B[gp]CR[gp]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: yes
Dootar [-\]: hmm.......
hansb [5k\]: on th ebeach of Hawaii
playmore [1d\]: G5 
Scribe [-\]: so it will be hard to reduce black moyo after black 41
]
(;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[ip]CR[ip]TR[ph]C[Scribe [-\]: possible due to two black stones at q12 and q14
])
(;W[fo]CR[fo]TR[bk][ck][cn][en]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[io]CR[io]TR[kf][fo][dp][fp][cq]C[Scribe [-\]: white stones in lower left are now weak
])
(;W[go]CR[go]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Conch [13k\]: if you dont know  we have no idea
]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[jo]CR[jo]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[gm]CR[gm]LB[gq:A][fr:B]C[birne [1k\]: So, was white R15 a bad move?
]))))
(;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: proper way for white to fix 
Scribe [-\]: this corner
draugluin [15k\]: I would not find C17 in 1000 years
aditsu [11k\]: if you try hard, you'll ge to 1d in 1-2 years, and you will find it
Blaubaer [6d\]: i would have find f17 ...
aditsu [11k\]: *get
Quinn [11k?\]: doubt that
]))
(;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[qe]CR[qe]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: is there audio?
]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Dootar [-\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: black needs to make the r6 stone work
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[noel [10k\]: yes
]
;W[re]CR[re]C[draugluin [15k\]: better for b
Pilsun [17k\]: nice for B
]
;B[pi]CR[pi]C[agui [6k\]: yes
Stormer [7k\]: ywa
Dootar [-\]: yes
RocheL [-\]: yep
birne [1k\]: yes
Stormer [7k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes
Pilsun [17k\]: yep
oeillet [9k?\]: yes
silver2k4 [2k?\]: yes
lewe [28k?\]: yes
agui [6k\]: this of course
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes
]))))
(;B[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [-\]: white d 9 invites black d15
]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[bn]CR[bn]LB[bp:A][cq:B]C[aditsu [11k\]: so b should play d15 instead of c6?
]))
(;B[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [-\]: d16 is critical point in this game
Grimley [6k\]: *d15
Scribe [-\]: white would liked to have played at d16 first
]
(;W[ch]CR[ch]C[flogo [1k\]: is e8 playable for black  instead of e6 ?
]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[bk]CR[bk]LB[de:A][ch:B]C[noned [4k\]: nice
Scribe [-\]: now the lower left joseki works for black
])
(;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[bm]CR[bm]C[xDarigaaz [9k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: b4, c3 exchange helps white
]
;B[bn]CR[bn]C[oeillet [9k?\]: what if white blocks ??$
]
(;W[bp]CR[bp])
(;W[ch]CR[ch]C[kilroy [6k\]: yes
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]C[rayen [9k\]: yes
Pilsun [17k\]: yea
Sonni [13k\]: yes
JamesJoker [7k\]: yes
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: yes
noel [10k\]: yes
totylkoja [?\]: yes
Dootar [-\]: yes
agui [6k\]: yes very clear thanks
Eof [?\]: yes
])))))
(;B[ci]CR[ci]C[draugluin [15k\]: should play C3 instead of E6 ?
hansb [5k\]: even worse than before
murky: no audio
]))
(;W[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [-\]: D 15  (not d16)
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[df]CR[df]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: b d5?
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[en]CR[en]C[SakuraHime [8k?\]: too low
]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
(;B[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: completely different game
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]TR[cd][ce][cg][ck][cn][co]C[agui [6k\]: no
SakuraHime [8k?\]: no
rayen [9k\]: no
draugluin [15k\]: no
])
(;B[cl]CR[cl])
(;B[cj]CR[cj])
(;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[dh]CR[dh]C[Scribe [-\]: black has many stones on third line on the left side
]))
(;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
(;B[de]CR[de])
(;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[cg]CR[cg])))
(;B[hd]CR[hd])
(;B[de]CR[de])
(;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[df]CR[df]
(;B[cg]CR[cg])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[ci]CR[ci]C[aditsu [11k\]: I'm confused @_@
Quinn [11k?\]: i will never ever read that far
hansb [5k\]: tesuji?
]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[cg]CR[cg]C[playmore [1d\]: you played this in the qualifyer game :)
]
;B[bi]CR[bi]
;W[bg]CR[bg]C[Conch [13k\]: cut
])))
(;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[sd]CR[sd]C[playgo [6k\]: too hard for us :-)
]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[rayen [9k\]: looks like a 30k opening :D
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[me]CR[me]C[aditsu [11k\]: doesn't know the edit tool either... :|
]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[ac]CR[ac]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
(;W[ad]CR[ad]LB[nb:B][rb:A]C[noel [10k\]: i lost sound
Quinn [11k?\]: rejoin
noel [10k\]: but i think the answer is black can kill
noel [10k\]: 2 ways
murky: that's 100 minutes
Dootar [-\]: hm...
ljl [12k\]: s18
rayen [9k\]: S18 !
Zark [4k\]: black kills
Dootar [-\]: s18
noel [10k\]: sorry i got a laggy connection
hansb [5k\]: Black kills
noel [10k\]: S18
rayen [9k\]: b kills
ljl [12k\]: black kills
noel [10k\]: and O18
Uberdude [13k\]: o16, because we all know a ponnuki is worth 30 points :p
Zark [4k\]: P19
Dootar [-\]: b kills..
Dootar [-\]: amen uberdude
noel [10k\]: S18
Dootar [-\]: ^_^
hansb [5k\]: T17 (naive, but ...)
murky: I gave my answer in the last problem
ljl [12k\]: s18
Dootar [-\]: t17... very nice
noel [10k\]: O18
noel [10k\]: yes
Dootar [-\]: s18 woiuld be my guess
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[ljl [12k\]: R19 dow
]
(;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[sc]CR[sc])
(;W[sc]CR[sc]C[noel [10k\]: R18
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: huh...
ljl [12k\]: r18
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[jramon [15k\]: b r18
noel [10k\]: S19
Pilsun [17k\]: right
Dootar [-\]: looks good
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]C[wingnut [-\]: right
]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
(;B[sb]CR[sb]C[ljl [12k\]: r19
]
;W[pa]CR[pa])
(;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
(;B[nd]CR[nd]
(;W[qa]CR[qa])
(;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[qa]CR[qa]))
(;B[qa]CR[qa]))))
(;W[ba]CR[ba]C[BlueJays [-\]: r18
jcbrookly1 [?\]: s18
Grimley [6k\]: s19?
wingnut [-\]: next week
RocheL [-\]: s18
noel [10k\]: S18
Zark [4k\]: does P19 not work?
RocheL [-\]: we do
agui [6k\]: now
Dootar [-\]: a1
noel [10k\]: now please
]
(;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[sc]CR[sc]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: s19
]
(;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[sa]CR[sa])
(;W[ra]CR[ra]C[Dootar [-\]: i kinda like t17
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[rayen [9k\]: ko
ljl [12k\]: ko
Dootar [-\]: ko
]))
(;B[sc]CR[sc]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[qb]CR[qb]C[noel [10k\]: no
oeillet [9k?\]: no way !
noel [10k\]: so just S18
])
(;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[na]CR[na]C[Zark [4k\]: q19
]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[nb]CR[nb]C[Zark [4k\]: s18
ljl [12k\]: S18 now?
oeillet [9k?\]: t17
Zark [4k\]: yes
Zark [4k\]: :)
noel [10k\]: yes
noel [10k\]: thank you
RocheL [-\]: lol
])))
(;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[ha]CR[ha]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ja]CR[ja]
;W[ia]CR[ia]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Pilsun [17k\]: wow
]
;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[ge]CR[ge]TR[ia][ja][ib][jb][hc][ic][jc][kc][oc][pd]C[Xikkuh [11k\]: n18?
Scribe [-\]: black to connect his stones
murky: demoted
bo4 [14k\]: n18
Dootar [-\]: notn18
hena [10k?\]: o19
Dootar [-\]: not n18*
Dootar [-\]: m18 and o18 cut it
noel [10k\]: yes
hena [10k?\]: thanks
Pilsun [17k\]: thank you
happy53 [-\]: O18?
Zark [4k\]: thanks
noel [10k\]: thank you
Xikkuh [11k\]: thx
Yemon [7k\]: thank you very much
RocheL [-\]: thx
agui [6k\]: ok Thank you very much
xDarigaaz [9k?\]: Thank you
ManMachine [-\]: Mingjiu for president!
birne [1k\]: thank you!
murky: thank you MingJiu LaoShi
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
monk316 [12k\]: thanks
daikon [12k?\]: thx
jcbrookly1 [?\]: thanks
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
wingnut [-\]: thanks mingjiu & Ing goe Foundation and Scribe
Blaubaer [6d\]: thank you
rayen [9k\]: thx
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation
hena [10k?\]: see you
agui [6k\]: See you 
Uberdude [13k\]: thank you
bo4 [14k\]: thanks
au2 [4k\]: bye bye
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Jiang Mingjiu Laoshi
murky: Bye
Zark [4k\]: bye
Scribe [-\]: Please review the game shown today
noel [10k\]: bye
dogenzenji [22k\]: xiexie
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
Pilsun [17k\]: Bye
agui [6k\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye'
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: byb
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: ey
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: byue
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
Pilsun [17k\]: shh...
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: bye
]))
