(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[25/900 Canadian]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-02-12]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[murky: Hi MingJiu LaoShi
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no clear
bigfish [6k?\]: no
RocheL [-\]: wow
]
(;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Uvas [-\]: hellomingjiu, congrats on your win
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[se]CR[se]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ba]CR[ba]
;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Scribe [-\]: Nihao Laoshi, North American Representative to the Fujitsu Cup
suducodu [?\]: Hiya, ming :D
SitaRam [5k\]: hallo mingjiu
playgo [6k\]: hi
sicbanana [11k\]: hello!
murky: Hi
Uvas [-\]: hello
Hu [12k\]: Hello!
xDarigaaz [9k\]: Hi
hlamonde [21k?\]: hello
hlamonde [21k?\]: yes
sicbanana [11k\]: yes
zee [10k\]: yes
Zark [5k\]: hi
offtosea [13k\]: hi - yes
SitaRam [5k\]: nice to see and hear you
murky: Loud and clear
suducodu [?\]: We hear you! 
Ordiac [7k\]: |-||
playgo [6k\]: no
Dakre [3k?\]: yes, of course ;)
isnich [18k\]: hi :)
Scribe [-\]: Homework from last week
olczyk [15k\]: Can you review your game from yessterday?
Scribe [-\]: Black to play
murky: where do we see the game ?
murky: record?
ljl [13k\]: r17 is what looked at
Dakre [3k?\]: i think r17 kills
murky: I agree
]
;W[ab]CR[ab]C[SitaRam [5k\]: dead
Dakre [3k?\]: no ko, black kills
ljl [13k\]: black kills
Firzen [16k\]: dead
sicbanana [11k\]: white is dead
ljl [13k\]: I also got seki results
sicbanana [11k\]: me too :)
Dakre [3k?\]: r17?
Firzen [16k\]: r17 i think
SitaRam [5k\]: r17
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: two ways?
]
(;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[rd]CR[rd]C[braincrash [?\]: s19
])
(;W[pc]CR[pc]C[whendrik [15k\]: r18
]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
(;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[pb]CR[pb])
(;W[pb]CR[pb]C[Firzen [16k\]: s17?
ljl [13k\]: S17?
sicbanana [11k\]: s17
SitaRam [5k\]: s17
murky: B s19
Uvas [-\]: q19
Scribe [-\]: s19 is too much
Dakre [3k?\]: q19
sicbanana [11k\]: q19`?
whendrik [15k\]: Q19
ljl [13k\]: S19
]
(;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[qa]CR[qa]C[reksio [2k\]: b s19
SitaRam [5k\]: w lives
])
(;B[pa]CR[pa]C[swilks [7k\]: isn't r19 good enough
]
(;W[rc]CR[rc]C[reksio [2k\]: s19
]
;B[ra]CR[ra]C[whendrik [15k\]: s19
SitaRam [5k\]: ah
SitaRam [5k\]: tesuji
SitaRam [5k\]: jo
whendrik [15k\]: yes!
murky: W S19 
sicbanana [11k\]: looks right
suzakusan [12k\]: ok
Zark [5k\]: s17 @ s19
sicbanana [11k\]: :)
reksio [2k\]: what if w s19?
Dakre [3k?\]: white s19 before
]
(;W[qa]CR[qa]C[ljl [13k\]: s19 befroq19
]
;B[qb]CR[qb])
(;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[qa]CR[qa]))
(;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[qa]CR[qa]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[oa]CR[oa]C[sicbanana [11k\]: lives..
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]))
(;B[ra]CR[ra]
(;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[pa]CR[pa])
(;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[SitaRam [5k\]: miai
whendrik [15k\]: i didnt found that situation
]
(;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[qa]CR[qa]C[whendrik [15k\]: aaah
]
;B[sf]CR[sf])
(;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[sb]CR[sb]C[sicbanana [11k\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: thx
SitaRam [5k\]: no
Firzen [16k\]: no thx
sicbanana [11k\]: no
]))))))
(;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
whendrik [15k\]: no
oeillet [9k?\]: yes
sicbanana [11k\]: yep..
reksio [2k\]: yup
bigfish [6k?\]: yes
suzakusan [12k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
Zark [5k\]: yes
Firzen [16k\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: wellknown
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
murky: Yes
whendrik [15k\]: no i dont
])
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Firzen [16k\]: me too
]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[gc]CR[gc]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
DrGoPlayer [-\]: worry about single stone
sicbanana [11k\]: yep
oeillet [9k?\]: yes
suzakusan [12k\]: yes
ruger [20k\]: yes
whendrik [15k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: yes
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
reksio [2k\]: I saw but I don't know :)
])
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[agui [6k?\]: yes very clear, thanks
]
(;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[di]CR[di]
(;B[ff]CR[ff]C[whendrik [15k\]: no
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[murky: hmm
hansb [5k?\]: mix up
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Firzen [16k\]: hope so ^^
reksio [2k\]: can play first
murky: How about C13?
]
;B[bi]CR[bi]LB[ce:D][df:C][ef:B][ff:A]C[SitaRam [5k\]: hm
SitaRam [5k\]: strange
jantiff [-\]: thin shape
egemen [7k\]: ^^
SitaRam [5k\]: f14
oeillet [9k?\]: f14
whendrik [15k\]: E14
xDarigaaz [9k\]: isnt this overplay? .)
agui [6k?\]: black jump too thin
SitaRam [5k\]: of course
Scribe [-\]: game between two 3d players
SitaRam [5k\]: only 3dans play like this
murky: test his opponent
Scribe [-\]: black should have played at e14 not f14
egemen [7k\]: lets punish:)
Zark [5k\]: easy to cut?
Ordiac [7k\]: w can c12 now
bigfish [6k?\]: bad for black
agui [6k?\]: now white can play at E14 (B)
SitaRam [5k\]: d14
bigfish [6k?\]: d14 e14
Scribe [-\]: not as good as the result after white e14
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: ahh
]
(;W[df]CR[df]C[hansb [5k?\]: C15
oeillet [9k?\]: d14
Jadeite [13k?\]: cut
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[de]CR[de]
(;B[be]CR[be]
;W[cg]CR[cg])
(;B[cg]CR[cg]C[bigfish [6k?\]: second better for black
]
;W[be]CR[be]C[whendrik [15k\]: i like this one
]
;B[cj]CR[cj]C[reksio [2k\]: I like b
Firzen [16k\]: not for white
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: before
Zark [5k\]: the first
agui [6k?\]: the one before
SitaRam [5k\]: first better
]))
(;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[dg]CR[dg]C[Scribe [-\]: black b11 stone is wastedmove
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[bh]CR[bh]TR[bi]C[SitaRam [5k\]: yes
Firzen [16k\]: yes
braincrash [?\]: great
Scribe [-\]: okay for white
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]:  
])
(;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[SitaRam [5k\]: the same
Firzen [16k\]: bad too
whendrik [15k\]: i like it
Zark [5k\]: second best
reksio [2k\]: not bad if w
])
(;W[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: e14 is best for white
agui [6k?\]: better for black
jantiff [-\]: come on it's terrible for b :)
]
;B[bh]CR[bh]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
(;B[bg]CR[bg]C[oeillet [9k?\]: black is better
]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[de]CR[de]C[SitaRam [5k\]: best
Firzen [16k\]: yeah
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: better
Kerrick [15k?\]: sweet
reksio [2k\]: b gets the move
ljl [13k\]: I like
reksio [2k\]: so I guess bad
braincrash [?\]: v good
suzakusan [12k\]: i like :)
whendrik [15k\]: will black play like that?
SitaRam [5k\]: i take this
Zark [5k\]: not in this game
hlamonde [21k?\]: best
])
(;B[bf]CR[bf]C[Scribe [-\]: very simple path for white
]
;W[df]CR[df])
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[ag]CR[ag]C[whendrik [15k\]: aaah
Firzen [16k\]: even better
Scribe [-\]: very good fro whtie
])))
(;B[ef]CR[ef]C[WE0ARE0SIN [?\]:  
]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [-\]: proper
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
(;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[bi]CR[bi]C[hansb [5k?\]: san rei sei is hurt
]
;W[jc]CR[jc]TR[bi][co][dq]C[Scribe [-\]: proper play
Firzen [16k\]: equal
fetti [-\]: i dont like because black is low
SitaRam [5k\]: good for w
fetti [-\]: yes
Ordiac [7k\]: id like b here
NoSide [7k\]: i like black
totylkoja [?\]: I like black
jantiff [-\]: globally good for w
reksio [2k\]: I like black also
murky: not for B
fetti [-\]: like WHITE
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: right
])
(;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[df]CR[df]
(;W[bg]CR[bg]C[fetti [-\]: yes
suzakusan [12k\]: no
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
reksio [2k\]: no
whendrik [15k\]: no
NoSide [7k\]: oooh
Scribe [-\]: white's choice
hansb [5k?\]: yes
Firzen [16k\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: no
bigfish [6k?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: good for white
]
(;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[cc]CR[cc]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: hmm no
]
;B[bi]CR[bi]C[Ordiac [7k\]: d14 is bad?
])
(;B[cc]CR[cc]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[bf]CR[bf])
(;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[be]CR[be]C[ljl [13k\]: c15 becomes good cutting point?
]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]C[NoSide [7k\]: never see this one before 
xDarigaaz [9k\]: :)
]
(;B[db]CR[db]C[Scribe [-\]: must play c17, black can not play d11 in place of c17
]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
(;W[jc]CR[jc]C[jantiff [-\]: nice !
Scribe [-\]: corner alive and outside three stones can get out
])
(;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[gf]CR[gf]))
(;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[db]CR[db]))
(;W[ce]CR[ce]C[totylkoja [?\]: kill white :)
Javaness [5k\]: white is too hasty
olczyk [15k\]: D15
SitaRam [5k\]: no
Javaness [5k\]: no no
Firzen [16k\]: good for black
NoSide [7k\]: no
ljl [13k\]: too soon
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no
]
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[Scribe [-\]: better sequence for black
]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[bb]CR[bb])
(;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[fb]CR[fb]LB[eg:A]
;W[]
(;B[eg]CR[eg]C[Scribe [-\]: black has c12 move afterward
])
(;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[ch]CR[ch])))
(;B[de]CR[de]C[Scribe [-\]: too early to cut at c15
]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[Zark [5k\]: no
]
;W[db]CR[db]C[Firzen [16k\]: no
Javaness [5k\]: yes
jantiff [-\]: bad idea
totylkoja [?\]: no 
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: no
WE0ARE0SIN [?\]:  
Scribe [-\]: bad for black
])
(;W[cd]CR[cd]C[agui [6k?\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
totylkoja [?\]: no
oeillet [9k?\]: no
Zark [5k\]: no
Bodo212 [15k\]: no
braincrash [?\]: yes
Blaubaer [6d\]: ladder
totylkoja [?\]: no ladder
agui [6k?\]: E16
oeillet [9k?\]: e16 e17 c18
SitaRam [5k\]: no ladder
]
;B[ed]CR[ed]C[bigfish [6k?\]: d17
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: :-)
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[fb]CR[fb]C[SitaRam [5k\]: hm
SitaRam [5k\]: nice 
totylkoja [?\]: ups :)
reksio [2k\]: dead
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
bigfish [6k?\]: squeeze
]))))))
(;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[bi]CR[bi]C[Scribe [-\]: good sequence for black
Scribe [-\]: white should not play d13 then c17
Ordiac [7k\]: but pls why d14 ,its soo submissive
]
(;W[bj]CR[bj]C[Scribe [-\]: if d13 then b13, not c17
])
(;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[bj]CR[bj])))
(;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Uvas [-\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
])))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[nc]CR[nc]C[RocheL [-\]: tes yesterday game was great
]
(;B[kd]CR[kd]LB[qc:E][md:G][ne:C][pf:D][qf:B][kj:F]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: it was no question, .. clear :)
DrGoPlayer [-\]: o14
SitaRam [5k\]: r17
Ordiac [7k\]: q14
fetti [-\]: R14
Hu [12k\]: O15
SoulShard [?\]: O15 
Zark [5k\]: r17
SitaRam [5k\]: or o15
suzakusan [12k\]: o15
Firzen [16k\]: I'd like R14
xDarigaaz [9k\]: o15
braincrash [?\]: r14
oeillet [9k?\]: o15
agui [6k?\]: o15
okiol [15k\]: my kyuuish mind says o15
Shikasta [17k\]: r14
denis2: m15
SitaRam [5k\]: no
dod: D14 :-)
wrong [?\]: or Q14 ^_^
fetti [-\]: R17
SitaRam [5k\]: r17
playgo [6k\]: L10 
Blaubaer [6d\]: g17 
wingnut [-\]: R17 
Wirtuoosi [7k\]: m15 :)
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sarutobi [19k\]: q17
bigfish [6k?\]: n16
wingnut [-\]: hehe
braincrash [?\]: some child
bigfish [6k?\]: n16
SitaRam [5k\]: stupid one
wrong [?\]: KGS should limit the No of characters in 1 comment
Uvas [-\]: yea
SitaRam [5k\]: from freakshow
Ordiac [7k\]: q14 most severe it attack q16 and makes r10 possible ?
Dmadean [5k\]: m15
wrong [?\]: F???????
murky: premature
Bodo212 [15k\]: pls show
SitaRam [5k\]: C
Firzen [16k\]: C15
bigfish [6k?\]: p15
suzakusan [12k\]: i prefer C
Blaubaer [6d\]: g17 ?
Scribe [-\]: n15 does not achieve either goal
][xDarigaaz [9k\]: it was no question, .. clear :)
DrGoPlayer [-\]: o14
SitaRam [5k\]: r17
Ordiac [7k\]: q14
fetti [-\]: R14
Hu [12k\]: O15
SoulShard [?\]: O15 
Zark [5k\]: r17
SitaRam [5k\]: or o15
suzakusan [12k\]: o15
Firzen [16k\]: I'd like R14
xDarigaaz [9k\]: o15
braincrash [?\]: r14
oeillet [9k?\]: o15
agui [6k?\]: o15
okiol [15k\]: my kyuuish mind says o15
Shikasta [17k\]: r14
denis2: m15
SitaRam [5k\]: no
dod: D14 :-)
wrong [?\]: or Q14 ^_^
fetti [-\]: R17
SitaRam [5k\]: r17
playgo [6k\]: L10 
Blaubaer [6d\]: g17 
wingnut [-\]: R17 
Wirtuoosi [7k\]: m15 :)
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sarutobi [19k\]: q17
bigfish [6k?\]: n16
wingnut [-\]: hehe
braincrash [?\]: some child
bigfish [6k?\]: n16
SitaRam [5k\]: stupid one
wrong [?\]: KGS should limit the No of characters in 1 comment
Uvas [-\]: yea
SitaRam [5k\]: from freakshow
Ordiac [7k\]: q14 most severe it attack q16 and makes r10 possible ?
Dmadean [5k\]: m15
wrong [?\]: F???????
]
(;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[me]CR[me]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[mf]CR[mf]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
Scribe [-\]: balck has big moyo
Firzen [16k\]: b
suzakusan [12k\]: i like black ^^
biomorph [12k\]: B
SitaRam [5k\]: b
Bodo212 [15k\]: b
fetti [-\]: w
agui [6k?\]: very very big
offtosea [13k\]: b
oeillet [9k?\]: both
wingnut [-\]: Live Black
wingnut [-\]: like
r4nj1t0 [16k\]: b
])
(;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Scribe [-\]: r17 good for black
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[md]CR[md]C[Ordiac [7k\]: if w has 4 corners , who can resign?
]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[murky: net lag
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[me]LB[pg:A]TR[kd][nd][me][ne][qf][om][cn][po][fp][jp][pp][fq][pq]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: wekaer player
Blaubaer [6d\]: weaker
VroBanshee [15k?\]: and n15 in o18?
Inkognito [3k?\]: B is better
Scribe [-\]: white is very low, black wall is too strong, will help moyo on bottom
agui [6k?\]: yes
suzakusan [12k\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: good for black
Scribe [-\]: black can press at d13
Scribe [-\]: q13
Scribe [-\]: press at q13
])
(;W[nf]CR[nf]C[Firzen [16k\]: bad fpr w
hlamonde [21k?\]: almost same result
swilks [7k\]: no
murky: invasion
bigfish [6k?\]: yes
])
(;W[md]CR[md]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Scribe [-\]: no good continuation for white here
])
(;W[kj]CR[kj]C[hlamonde [21k?\]: no
Firzen [16k\]: looks interesting
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]C[Firzen [16k\]: for black
Uvas [-\]: yes
bigfish [6k?\]: no
wrong [?\]: unreasonable, why not finish joseki first?
SitaRam [5k\]: l10 makes not much
]
;W[mj]CR[mj])
(;W[ne]CR[ne]C[bigfish [6k?\]: yes
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
(;W[pb]CR[pb]C[wrong [?\]: n16?
SitaRam [5k\]: n16
Firzen [16k\]: N16
bigfish [6k?\]: n13
]
(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;W[kb]CR[kb])
(;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[wrong [?\]: n18
dod: O13?
]
;B[ng]CR[ng]C[Scribe [-\]: o13 is the move for black
Scribe [-\]: good fro black
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
Firzen [16k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: clear
totylkoja [?\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes
])
(;B[ng]CR[ng]))
(;W[ng]CR[ng]
;B[md]CR[md]C[Scribe [-\]: now black side weak to due to white s8
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Scribe [-\]: possible to play n16 first to make white heavier (before black o13)
]
(;B[pb]CR[pb]
(;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Scribe [-\]: take corne
Scribe [-\]: corner
])
(;W[id]CR[id]C[Scribe [-\]: corner bigger than open side
]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[lq]CR[lq]))
(;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[kb]CR[kb]LB[rl:A]C[wingnut [-\]: B moyo flattened
])))
(;W[le]CR[le]C[dod: G17
Uvas [-\]: wow
SitaRam [5k\]: ah
Dmadean [5k\]: told you
okiol [15k\]: hm, if a 25k played m15 in one of my reviews I'd really tell him off, but when you put it like this..
Scribe [-\]: black L16 stone is more valuable than the white o17 stone (previous variaton)
Firzen [16k\]: makes sense ^^
SitaRam [5k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
bigfish [6k?\]: no
suzakusan [12k\]: no thx
swilks [7k\]: yes.  was black pincer bad
playgo [6k\]: not yet
RocheL [-\]: very clear^^
Ferhat [12k\]: why not N 125 ?
Ferhat [12k\]: 25
xDarigaaz [9k\]: L16 bad move?
Hu [12k\]: Your Go was never bad ^^
Ferhat [12k\]: 15 sorry
totylkoja [?\]: n25? I think goban is to small for this :)
ljl [13k\]: perhaps o16 insted of pincer?
desperado [4k?\]: N15
gogogo07: w p14
Rambam [12k\]: congratulations for the game yesteday :D
ljl [13k\]: Or q14?
Scribe [-\]: n15 is slow but not as solid as n16
]
(;B[ld]CR[ld]C[dod: i thought i would go with blaubear :)
]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[me]CR[me]C[suzakusan [12k\]: i like w
]
;W[ne]CR[ne]C[wingnut [-\]: elephant jump
]
;B[mf]CR[mf]C[Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu choice in this situation
]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[pb]CR[pb]C[agui [6k?\]: no
]
;W[nh]CR[nh]C[SitaRam [5k\]: good for w
hlamonde [21k?\]: better
Bodo212 [15k\]: like W
playgo [6k\]: nice for white
hlamonde [21k?\]: much better
])
(;B[ke]CR[ke]C[jantiff [-\]: w ahead in the center
]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[li]CR[li]C[Firzen [16k\]: very bad for b
offtosea [13k\]: ha ha
egemen [7k\]: :)
])
(;B[md]CR[md]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[lc]CR[lc]LB[nc:B][kd:A]C[agui [6k?\]: no
bigfish [6k?\]: no
Firzen [16k\]: no
suzakusan [12k\]: no
])
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
(;W[ld]CR[ld]C[jantiff [-\]: M16 big :)
])
(;W[ke]CR[ke]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: can black play O15 instead of L16?
Ferhat [12k\]: understood thns 
]))
(;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[ke]CR[ke]C[Scribe [-\]: white L15 and M15 are looking into center, will help whoite invade balck moyo
Scribe [-\]: better choice for black, give up two
]
(;B[id]CR[id]
;W[kc]CR[kc]TR[ke][le][lo]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: so after all black pincer isnt good ? :)
Scribe [-\]: still like white
])
(;B[lc]CR[lc]
(;W[mc]CR[mc]
(;B[id]CR[id]C[Scribe [-\]: black does not have time to play m17 due to white pushing at p16
]
(;W[kc]CR[kc]C[okiol [15k\]: why not w j17?
]
(;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: better for balck
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[ic]CR[ic])
(;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: than before
]
;W[kb]CR[kb]))
(;W[od]CR[od]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[pf]CR[pf]))
(;B[ic]CR[ic]C[oeillet [9k?\]: fine
]))
(;W[od]CR[od]
(;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
(;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[pf]CR[pf]C[Scribe [-\]: good fro white
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[pg]CR[pg])
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[rd]CR[rd]))
(;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[SitaRam [5k\]: ah
])))))
(;W[me]CR[me]C[Ferhat [12k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: n15 is move only if black played at m16, not L16
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[kf]CR[kf]C[Scribe [-\]: n15 not fast enough, and not solid enough
]
;B[ld]CR[ld]C[Firzen [16k\]: no
playgo [6k\]: O14 
]))
(;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[me]CR[me]C[RocheL [-\]: *yes
])))
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[dh]CR[dh]
(;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[gc]CR[gc]TR[fe]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: its joseki now
]
;B[bh]CR[bh]C[Scribe [-\]: two space jump, must not play large knights move
hansb [5k?\]: bad shape 4 black
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
whendrik [15k\]: cristal clear
Scribe [-\]: one space jump, okay to play large knights move
Firzen [16k\]: yes
Bodo212 [15k\]: clear
bigfish [6k?\]: yes
suzakusan [12k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: crystel
isnich [18k\]: yo
]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[dd]CR[dd])
(;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[bh]CR[bh]))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[cd]CR[cd])
(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[cl]CR[cl]
;B[cq]CR[cq]C[SitaRam [5k\]: yes
hansb [5k?\]: yes
desperado [4k?\]: yeah
Zark [5k\]: me
jantiff [-\]: ok
oeillet [9k?\]: a bit
desperado [4k?\]: C4
oeillet [9k?\]: c4
SitaRam [5k\]: c4
NoSide [7k\]: c4 only?
Bodo212 [15k\]: c4?
oeillet [9k?\]: crosscut
]
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[agui [6k?\]: B3
jantiff [-\]: first B3
SitaRam [5k\]: b4
oeillet [9k?\]: b3
SitaRam [5k\]: b3
oeillet [9k?\]: d5 is bad
Scribe [-\]: b3 first is the correct path
agui [6k?\]: good shape
]
(;W[do]CR[do]C[hansb [5k?\]: B3
]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
(;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[co]CR[co]C[jantiff [-\]: black has C5
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[en]CR[en]C[Scribe [-\]: balck took outside
])
(;W[co]CR[co]C[playmore [1d\]: B3 now?
dod: black should playbe D2?
Zark [5k\]: e5?
hansb [5k?\]: B3?
]
(;B[cr]CR[cr]C[GOREGO [30k?\]: b5
]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[dn]CR[dn]C[GOREGO [30k?\]: B%
])
(;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
(;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[br]CR[br]
;B[dr]CR[dr]LB[eq:B][fq:A])
(;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[cr]CR[cr]C[Firzen [16k\]: yeah something simple for me thanks
suzakusan [12k\]: ^^
Bodo212 [15k\]: simple is fine !
Firzen [16k\]: I like this simple one
Ordiac [7k\]: just b2?
playmore [1d\]: don't like black here
wrong [?\]: I prefer to play with shell rather than with slate ^_^
]))
(;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[Firzen [16k\]: bad
SitaRam [5k\]: bad
jantiff [-\]: oops
totylkoja [?\]: W cry 
wrong [?\]: early ko - "the early worm is caught by the bird" :)
oeillet [9k?\]: why d6 ???
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[fm]CR[fm]C[SitaRam [5k\]: hihi
])
(;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[el]CR[el]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
(;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[dod: pour black
dod: poor black
])
(;B[gq]CR[gq]
(;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[hq]CR[hq])
(;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
(;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[hq]CR[hq])
(;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[hr]CR[hr]C[dod: cool
]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[dr]CR[dr])
(;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[er]CR[er]
(;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[ip]CR[ip]C[suzakusan [12k\]: :)
]
;B[kr]CR[kr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[okiol [15k\]: =D
]
;W[go]CR[go]C[SitaRam [5k\]: nice
totylkoja [?\]: Wow :)
])
(;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[kr]CR[kr]C[dod: do you know these sequences by heart or do you read them over and over again?
]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[bs]CR[bs]C[SitaRam [5k\]: hm
Firzen [16k\]: yes
suzakusan [12k\]: oké :)
SitaRam [5k\]: no tesuji?
murky: Its' his blood
jantiff [-\]: ok
wingnut [-\]: 7 dan pro, what you think dod?
Bodo212 [15k\]: ok - but I can not keep in mind !
murky: in his blood
Sabaku1 [21k\]: hehe
]))))))))
(;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[do]CR[do]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[co]CR[co]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [-\]: jsoeki
]
(;W[br]CR[br]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
(;W[]C[Scribe [-\]: b2, d2 is bad exchange fro white
]
;B[fn]CR[fn]C[Scribe [-\]: white should have tenuki'ed rather than b2
])
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[bn]CR[bn]))
(;W[]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: ah :-)
]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[cm]CR[cm]
;W[bo]CR[bo])
(;W[bo]CR[bo]))
(;B[br]CR[br]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[en]CR[en]
(;B[eq]CR[eq]
(;W[fn]CR[fn])
(;W[dn]CR[dn]))
(;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[desperado [4k?\]: ahaa ahaa
Scribe [-\]: good for white either way
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
(;B[em]CR[em]
;W[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [-\]: balck loses this game
])
(;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[aq]CR[aq]
;W[em]CR[em]))))
(;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [-\]: balck gets more than white when d5 atari is first
]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[dp]CR[dp])))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[do]CR[do]
(;B[co]CR[co]
;W[em]CR[em])
(;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[em]CR[em]LB[jq:A]))
(;W[cr]CR[cr]C[Scribe [-\]: white needs stone at k3 to play this joseki (white d4)
Zark [5k\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: no
Firzen [16k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
suzakusan [12k\]: no
murky: never seen
agui [6k?\]: D4
]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
(;W[er]CR[er]
;B[en]CR[en]LB[di:A][fq:B]C[hansb [5k?\]: interesting
okiol [15k\]: sure
desperado [4k?\]: dont like this position
SitaRam [5k\]: low
wrong [?\]: b says "xiexie"
Scribe [-\]: both d11 and f3 are good points for black
Scribe [-\]: white is too busy
])
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[do]CR[do]
;W[gq]CR[gq]C[wingnut [-\]: game
]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[fo]CR[fo]LB[di:B][iq:A]C[Uvas [-\]: so wrong prefers w?
dod: why not D9 instead of D11?
wrong [?\]: one general Question?
agui [6k?\]: ok
wrong [?\]: why BAD moves are so appealing???
wingnut [-\]: lol
wrong [?\]: so attractive
wingnut [-\]: there are more of them?
murky: unaware is worse though, wrong
]))))
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[rq]CR[rq]C[oeillet [9k?\]: easy one :)
Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho plays this move (p4)
playgo [6k\]: O4 next ?
]
(;B[op]CR[op]C[SitaRam [5k\]: ah
wingnut [-\]: Large avalanche
Scribe [-\]: standard are r2 and p2
agui [6k?\]: :))
dod: in what context did he play it?
SitaRam [5k\]: no
Bodo212 [15k\]: no
Conch [13k\]: no
hansb [5k?\]: yes 
SitaRam [5k\]: never seen
RocheL [-\]: neither did we^^
suzakusan [12k\]: no
Spartan101 [8k\]: is waerd
oeillet [9k?\]: already seen
Blaubaer [6d\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: interesting
Zark [5k\]: its on a website
Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho played this two days ago
Firzen [16k\]: to get more influence to the left side?
SitaRam [5k\]: he is lee chang hoo
]
(;W[or]CR[or])
(;W[np]CR[np]C[Rambam [12k\]: hehe
desperado [4k?\]: has to paly ladder
]
(;B[oo]CR[oo]C[desperado [4k?\]: play*
Scribe [-\]: third game of Kuksu title match ?
]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[or]CR[or])
(;B[rr]CR[rr]C[Blaubaer [6d\]: r7 aji ?
Scribe [-\]: P4 move from [2006-02-11\]  49th Korean Kuksu, title match #3
Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho 9p beat Choi Cheolhan 9p
desperado [4k?\]: :-\]
desperado [4k?\]: lee changho is just too tough...
]
(;W[qr]CR[qr]
(;B[qs]CR[qs])
(;B[or]CR[or]C[Scribe [-\]: must
]
(;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[qs]CR[qs]C[SitaRam [5k\]: ah
])
(;W[ps]CR[ps]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[no]CR[no]C[SitaRam [5k\]: hui
])))
(;W[oo]CR[oo]
(;B[rp]CR[rp]C[hansb [5k?\]: P4 was played before!
]
;W[or]CR[or])
(;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
(;B[rl]CR[rl]C[Scribe [-\]: http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/printable.php?id=10352&PHPSESSID=c4e4acf0f91ec930c85d3f5ec42b690b
]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rp]CR[rp]C[SitaRam [5k\]: not easy one
]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
;B[ml]CR[ml]C[wingnut [-\]: looks good for W
]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[sn]CR[sn]C[Scribe [-\]: this is game
]
;W[lm]CR[lm]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Firzen [16k\]: w
wingnut [-\]: ahh ok
agui [6k?\]: confusing
wingnut [-\]: depend what that wall faces
playmore [1d\]: N8 at P8 possible?
]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[nc]CR[nc]LB[mk:A]TR[pk][nl][pl]C[oeillet [9k?\]: new joseki ???
]
(;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[re]CR[re]C[Scribe [-\]: black wants to play n9 to attack three white stones at q8
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Inkognito [3k?\]: very intesting taisha joseki
]
;B[qe]CR[qe])
(;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[nb]CR[nb]C[desperado [4k?\]: not taisha
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pc]CR[pc]C[desperado [4k?\]: large avalanche
]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
(;W[mb]CR[mb]
(;B[ng]CR[ng])
(;B[mk]CR[mk]C[wingnut [-\]: o-nadare
]))
(;W[md]CR[md]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[mk]CR[mk]C[desperado [4k?\]: nice looking fight for black
]
;W[]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[sd]CR[sd])))
(;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[rl]CR[rl])))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[fab [1d\]: http://www.gogod.demon.co.uk/NewInGo/20030811_1.htm
]))))
(;B[qr]CR[qr]C[DrGoPlayer [-\]: he won
]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rr]CR[rr]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rp]CR[rp]C[murky: net lag
Conch [13k\]: \\yes
Spartan101 [8k\]: yep
]
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[suzakusan [12k\]: yep
Bodo212 [15k\]: I hear
]
;B[om]CR[om]C[VorteXR [9k?\]: yep
]
(;W[nq]CR[nq])
(;W[no]CR[no]C[seidelin [9k\]: fine
]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[desperado [4k?\]: yeah
murky: ok
Scribe [-\]: yes
RocheL [-\]: allo
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
Uvas [-\]: yes
Conch [13k\]: hello
okiol [15k\]: yes
totylkoja [?\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
rakdver [7k\]: yes
dod: yes
scubasteve [4k\]: yes
]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[kq]CR[kq]))
(;W[nq]CR[nq]C[SitaRam [5k\]: sounds great
]
(;B[pl]CR[pl]
(;W[sp]CR[sp]C[agui [6k?\]: what if black T2 ?
]
;B[so]CR[so]
;W[nr]CR[nr]C[swilks [7k\]: seems good for white?
]
(;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[os]CR[os]C[Scribe [-\]: white takes corner
])
(;B[rs]CR[rs]
(;W[sr]CR[sr]C[Scribe [-\]: white corner survives
Scribe [-\]: or at least ko
])
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[Aivonix [14k\]: +
Scribe [-\]: after saving three stones at s8
])))
(;W[nr]CR[nr]C[RocheL [-\]: we listen carefully^^
]
;B[rs]CR[rs]
;W[sr]CR[sr]
;B[sp]CR[sp]C[Scribe [-\]: kills white corner
]))
(;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[no]CR[no])))
(;B[or]CR[or]))
(;B[rb]CR[rb]C[wrong [?\]: homework^^
]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Firzen [16k\]: yeah
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[Firzen [16k\]: nice
okiol [15k\]: because there is 359 wrong and 1 correct, wrong
]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[Scribe [-\]: lecture records available at http://inggoeschool.bresler.org
]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[pe]CR[pe]C[okiol [15k\]: 360 wrong*
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]C[Scribe [-\]: Guo Juan won
Uvas [-\]: now?
Grimley [6k\]: guo juan won
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[SitaRam [5k\]: of course
Scribe [-\]: did you doubt it :)
]
;B[ob]CR[ob]C[hansb [5k?\]: should be finished
offtosea [13k\]: yea Gou Juan!
hansb [5k?\]: it is late in Holland now
]
;W[rf]CR[rf]C[wingnut [-\]: Shikshin won also
]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[qi]CR[qi]C[SitaRam [5k\]: really?
]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[ba]CR[ba]
;B[rh]CR[rh]C[SitaRam [5k\]: what he won?
]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[si]CR[si]C[okiol [15k\]: a game
hansb [5k?\]: he is a she
wingnut [-\]: a trip to Japan
SitaRam [5k\]: hihi
GOREGO [30k?\]: what is this?
wicket [?\]: he's a he
wingnut [-\]: Ilja Shikshin  is not a she
Scribe [-\]: New Homework
suzakusan [12k\]: nice ^^
Firzen [16k\]: black to kill?
SitaRam [5k\]: not yet
Uvas [-\]: :)
desperado [4k?\]: T15 ;\]
GOREGO [30k?\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: Ilja Shikshin is brother of Svetlana Shikshina (redrose)
wrong [?\]: ah, he can play with korean 8p with only 2 stones
desperado [4k?\]: thank you
xDarigaaz [9k\]: thank you very much
SitaRam [5k\]: thx also a lot
okiol [15k\]: thanks alot for the lession!
suzakusan [12k\]: thank u so much
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Mingjiu Laoshi
chestnut [6k\]: thx
murky: many thanks
suzakusan [12k\]: bye
agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much
totylkoja [?\]: thank you
offtosea [13k\]: thanks mingjui!
SitaRam [5k\]: your lessons are grat
cheetah [12k\]: thx
Zark [5k\]: thanks
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
wrong [?\]: xiexie Laoshi
SoulShard [?\]: Thanks!
amaebi [16k?\]: thank you
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation
xDarigaaz [9k\]: bye
SitaRam [5k\]: graet
Ordiac [7k\]: b eye beye
VorteXR [9k?\]: thx a lot
GOREGO [30k?\]: R15
Aivonix [14k\]: whats aim here?
jantiff [-\]: thanks for teaching
Rambam [12k\]: thanks a lot:D
okiol [15k\]: I like this guy much better than the other
Aivonix [14k\]: in this prob?
wicket [?\]: to find the best move
suducodu [?\]: thank you ming
wingnut [-\]: thanks you mingjiu, scribe and Mr Ing :)
amaebi [16k?\]: "black to move"
cam [18k\]: thanks very much
wicket [?\]: thanks mingjiu
Aivonix [14k\]: aha k
]))
