(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-01-29]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[partisan [17k\]: hello!
Uvas [-\]: hi
xDarigaaz [9k\]: Hi
davidwatt [7k\]: hiya
jerkovicj [1d?\]: hi
janibi [8k\]: hi
braincrash [?\]: hi
fringd [9k\]: hi
Quinn [11k?\]: hello
tthaav [-\]: hello!
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Jiang Mingjiu Laoshi
SitaRam [5k\]: hallo mingjiu
SAD21 [12k?\]: hi
MrAnderson: hi, happy new year
SitaRam [5k\]: happy new year
fringd [9k\]: :)
Jahz [10k?\]: hi
tthaav [-\]: :)
Shikasta [17k\]: hi
SitaRam [5k\]: i like it
agui [6k?\]: ok
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: thankyou
]
(;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[qa]CR[qa]C[SitaRam [5k\]: jo
Scribe [-\]: Homework first
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[mb]CR[mb]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[aa]CR[aa]
;W[la]CR[la]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[ab]CR[ab]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[ld]CR[ld]
;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[le]CR[le]C[CiS [21k\]: o17
Quinn [11k?\]: sure
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
Quinn [11k?\]: KO
playgo [6k\]: b can live
SitaRam [5k\]: ko
agui [6k?\]: black dead
partisan [17k\]: lol
agui [6k?\]: ahhh
aditsu [11k?\]: ko=knock-out
aditsu [11k?\]: one of them must be right
Quinn [11k?\]: no way to live^^
agui [6k?\]: alive
Nesu [4k?\]: white dead
ruger [13k?\]: b alive
aditsu [11k?\]: lag
aditsu [11k?\]: very bad lag
Uvas [-\]: .
Nesu [4k?\]: O16
SitaRam [5k\]: i cant hear you
agui [6k?\]: Q19
jalapeno [11k\]: q19,o17,p19
Uvas [-\]: hello
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: b can live
josba: n19 ko?
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: O16
Uvas [-\]: bad connection
plonk [19k\]: black lives, q19
Scribe [-\]: black dead, cant make a second eye this way
Shikasta [17k\]: o16
agui [6k?\]: o16
Scribe [-\]: black p19 fails
Nesu [4k?\]: 016
Fredrik [-\]: we hear you
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: n19
FLgator [5k?\]: yes
BlueMoon [-\]: O16.
Quinn [11k?\]: right now i hear 2 mingjius ^^'
Uvas [-\]: yes
Nesu [4k?\]: o16
MrAnderson: O16 ?
wingnut [-\]: P17 ?
Scribe [-\]: only way is ko starting at n19
SitaRam [5k\]: no
davidwatt [7k\]: no thanks
Quinn [11k?\]: woo, finally i had a homework solved correctly ^^
SitaRam [5k\]: i too
]
(;B[oa]CR[oa]C[draugluin [15k\]: I figured P19 
Quinn [11k?\]: b p19 = ko
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: P19 wrong
]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[ma]CR[ma]C[SitaRam [5k\]: no
])
(;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[na]CR[na]C[SitaRam [5k\]: damezumari
Fredrik [-\]: no :)
xix [19k?\]: false
])
(;B[na]CR[na]
;W[nc]CR[nc])
(;B[oc]CR[oc]C[partisan [17k\]: yes!!!
MrAnderson: yes
]
;W[pa]CR[pa]C[quijote [27k\]: O17, we hear you
Hu [11k?\]: Yes.
]
;B[oa]CR[oa]C[Nesu [4k?\]: no, we can't
Conch [13k\]: hello
Ephemere [5k?\]: yes
guojuan [5p\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: can hear you
]
;W[ma]CR[ma]C[wingnut [-\]: we can hear you, just a bit of lag
guojuan [5p\]: we hear you
SitaRam [5k\]: no eye
Fredrik [-\]: dead
agui [6k?\]: o16
Bodo212 [16k\]: I hear
])
(;B[ma]CR[ma]
(;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[pa]CR[pa]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]C[BlueMoon [-\]: o16?
])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oc]CR[oc])
(;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[na]CR[na])))
(;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Scribe [-\]: Game
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[qp]CR[qp]C[Uvas [-\]: ok
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Nesu [4k?\]: :I
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[SitaRam [5k\]: F14
Scribe [-\]: after c11 hard for white to play f16
]
(;B[ch]CR[ch]C[jalapeno [11k\]: yes
]
(;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[di]CR[di])
(;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[df]CR[df]C[ljl [15k\]: looks liek 2 weak stones
]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
(;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[dc]CR[dc])
(;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[cg]CR[cg]TR[ch]C[SitaRam [5k\]: weak
Nesu [4k?\]: C7 
])))
(;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[ci]CR[ci])
(;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ef]CR[ef]C[fringd [9k\]: audio dead :=
]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[CiS [21k\]: 32222tttttttttttttttttttt5
]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[bi]LB[ef:D][bi:A][ci:B][di:C]C[Uvas [-\]: no
tthaav [-\]: fine here
Uvas [-\]: hi
Shikasta [17k\]: is ok
wwwzza [1d\]: working
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no audio ok
Conch [13k\]: ok
SitaRam [5k\]: not yet
SitaRam [5k\]: but often
ChipMonk [23k\]: Hm...
Nesu [4k?\]: audio is fine
partisan [17k\]: no its fine
quijote [27k\]: audio ok
MrAnderson: i hear :)
playgo [6k\]: audio ok again
Bodo212 [16k\]: mine is fine
Divine [16k\]: audio is good
Nesu [4k?\]: A
Nesu [4k?\]: :&
]
;C[Scribe [-\]: white C (e14) important to limit moyo 
]
;B[]
;W[gf]LB[ef:C][gf:D][bi:A][ci:B]C[Scribe [-\]: nice shape for white
Scribe [-\]: easy for white to limit growth of black moyo
])
(;B[ci]CR[ci]C[petro [-\]: sure
agui [6k?\]: no
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
Quinn [11k?\]: not often
Conch [13k\]: no
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
Ephemere [5k?\]: yes but not in that position
Grimley [6k\]: it's bad
wwwzza [1d\]: usually only for 3-4 point
SitaRam [5k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
fringd [9k\]: thought it was bad
Nesu [4k?\]: requires special strategy
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no :)
xDarigaaz [9k\]: i will play F16 :)
Fredrik [-\]: C17
Conch [13k\]: san san
Uvas [-\]: c17
Scribe [-\]: white cant play d10, no good continuation for white after white e14
]
(;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[Conch [13k\]: san san normal
xDarigaaz [9k\]: i think no
fringd [9k\]: black c11 is too good now
Ephemere [5k?\]: double kakari would destroy san ran sei, no?
petro [-\]: E11?
]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Fredrik [-\]: C17 should be the only move for white
])
(;W[fd]CR[fd]C[Conch [13k\]: no
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no
birne [1k\]: but if white plays C17, black can't enclose white so well this way?
]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
(;W[cg]CR[cg])
(;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Uvas [-\]: for b
Ephemere [5k?\]: help! ^^
SitaRam [5k\]: no
agui [6k?\]: no
ljl [15k\]: for black looks good
SitaRam [5k\]: bad for w
agui [6k?\]: too good for black
Conch [13k\]: no eye shape for w
xDarigaaz [9k\]: hmm bad
]))
(;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Conch [13k\]: hello
]
(;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[bc]CR[bc]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[fc]CR[fc]C[Ephemere [5k?\]: seems really strange for B with san ran sei
Scribe [-\]: easy for white
])
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[birne [1k\]: from black's viewpoint, C11 is not so good, right?
]
;B[de]CR[de]LB[cb:C][ce:F][bf:B][df:E][bg:D][cg:A][pp:H][qp:G]C[Fredrik [-\]: c11 to far
ljl [15k\]: no
wingnut [-\]: B14 
agui [6k?\]: C15
ljl [15k\]: b14
Grimley [6k\]: c15
playgo [6k\]: C13 
Quinn [11k?\]: b14
SitaRam [5k\]: c15
Ephemere [5k?\]: c13
seidelin [9k\]: b13
Fredrik [-\]: b14
Uvas [-\]: b14
BlueMoon [-\]: b13
jerkovicj [1d?\]: b14 popular, c18 is variation
davidwatt [7k\]: C18 
Grimley [6k\]: jerkovij> then C11 is at C12
Ephemere [5k?\]: A
tthaav [-\]: c15
wingnut [-\]: C15 
agui [6k?\]: C15
petro [-\]: C15
SitaRam [5k\]: C15
BlueMoon [-\]: b13
hugogogo [5k\]: A
acdh [2k\]: D14
SitaRam [5k\]: c15!!!!
Grimley [6k\]: c15
Ephemere [5k?\]: D looks good too
ljl [15k\]: b13 looks better than c13 to me
biomorph [12k\]: D
quijote [27k\]: D
playgo [6k\]: C13 
BlueMoon [-\]: D
ljl [15k\]: B'
tthaav [-\]: b
SitaRam [5k\]: A
Ephemere [5k?\]: d take sente
petro [-\]: A
AukeDirk [13k\]: a
Grimley [6k\]: How about C15??
tthaav [-\]: ^^'
Fredrik [-\]: Grimley; c15 is joseki
SitaRam [5k\]: so then i take F
BlueMoon [-\]: d
Uvas [-\]: b
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes clear
SitaRam [5k\]: crystal
agui [6k?\]: yes
BlueMoon [-\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: 7p likes B13 for White
Grimley [6k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes 
wingnut [-\]: clear thx
tthaav [-\]: yes clear
Bodo212 [16k\]: thx
BlueMoon [-\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
davidwatt [7k\]: yes
Shikasta [17k\]: yes
tthaav [-\]: yes
wingnut [-\]: :)
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
Volodia [13k?\]: i like F
SitaRam [5k\]: now is clear
agui [6k?\]: yes thanks
Quinn [11k?\]: more or less
quijote [27k\]: y
Shikasta [17k\]: =)
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
suducodu [?\]: Ye
tthaav [-\]: yes!
]
(;W[df]CR[df]C[ljl [15k\]: white B14
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[be]CR[be]C[SitaRam [5k\]: ok
]
(;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[bg]CR[bg]C[agui [6k?\]: Nice !
Fredrik [-\]: Shouldnt black start with b16 before b14?
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]C[meijing [2k?\]: should white play F14?
]
;W[af]CR[af]
;B[bc]CR[bc]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[eg]CR[eg]C[SitaRam [5k\]: ah
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]C[Scribe [-\]: balck can not double hane
]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[bb]CR[bb]C[SitaRam [5k\]: nice
]
;W[db]CR[db])
(;B[bd]CR[bd]C[hugogogo [5k\]: B17 
]
(;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Fredrik [-\]: otherwise to good shape for white
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[ad]CR[ad]C[olczyk [15k\]: Sorry I must leave early to play in kgs tournament. Thank you.
Ephemere [5k?\]: no
]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[ei]CR[ei]C[BlueMoon [-\]: b
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[Ephemere [5k?\]: too good for b
MrAnderson: b suffering
Ephemere [5k?\]: played on both side
agui [6k?\]: black
Grimley [6k\]: black
playgo [6k\]: b
Fredrik [-\]: Black
SitaRam [5k\]: b
tthaav [-\]: black
petro [-\]: black
Ephemere [5k?\]: black
cynewulf [?\]: b
Quinn [11k?\]:  like b
wingnut [-\]: "
BlueMoon [-\]: נ
SitaRam [5k\]: clearly
])
(;W[bf]CR[bf]
;B[bc]CR[bc]TR[df]C[Ephemere [5k?\]: not super good :( 
Fredrik [-\]: Ponnuki
Ephemere [5k?\]: b c11 stone is in perfect position
])))
(;W[cb]CR[cb]C[SitaRam [5k\]: yes
BlueMoon [-\]: yy
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
MrAnderson: ye
]
;B[df]CR[df]C[davidwatt [7k\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes thanks
]
;W[bf]CR[bf]LB[ch:B][ci:A]C[wingnut [-\]: bad
fringd [9k\]: q10
agui [6k?\]: D13
petro [-\]: E12
Vex [3k?\]: e11
Pasukaru [11k\]: e11?
wingnut [-\]: clear
josba: c6?
Uvas [-\]: yep
Pasukaru [11k\]: yes
]
(;
;B[]
;W[dg]CR[dg]C[Fredrik [-\]: d12
agui [6k?\]: not good for black
]
(;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[dh]CR[dh]C[suducodu [?\]: works
])
(;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[eg]CR[eg]C[Grimley [6k\]: d12
]))
(;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[cg]CR[cg])
(;B[dg]CR[dg]C[Fredrik [-\]: makes c11 bad move
])
(;B[ei]CR[ei]))
(;W[ce]CR[ce]C[GoIsMyLife [3k\]: yes
]
;B[df]CR[df]C[Bodo212 [16k\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: moyo is big
]
(;W[cg]CR[cg]C[tthaav [-\]: yes!
]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[fringd [9k\]: yeah
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[pe]CR[pe]C[ljl [15k\]: good for black
suducodu [?\]: yes
]
(;W[rf]CR[rf])
(;W[qb]CR[qb])
(;W[qe]CR[qe]C[agui [6k?\]: yes
davidwatt [7k\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: of course
]
;B[og]CR[og]TR[dc][pc][dd][pd][de][pe][df]C[Fredrik [-\]: k14 :)
SitaRam [5k\]: left is better for b
wingnut [-\]: W better on left
playgo [6k\]: right
petro [-\]: the right
Uvas [-\]: right
agui [6k?\]: right
hugogogo [5k\]: right
BlueMoon [-\]: r13
wingnut [-\]: oh..lol
SitaRam [5k\]: the right is better for w
seidelin [9k\]: both are good for black....together
BlueMoon [-\]: r14*
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[wingnut [-\]: left side is better for Black because 4 stone wall facing extension
]))
(;W[dg]CR[dg]C[wholeboard [7k\]: yes
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
(;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[ei]CR[ei])
(;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[hg]CR[hg]LB[ce:A][dg:B]C[wingnut [-\]: hard for Black to attack White
])))
(;W[bf]CR[bf]
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[cb]CR[cb]LB[gd:C][ce:B][bf:A]C[BlueMoon [-\]: D
]
;B[gd]CR[gd]LB[ce:B][bf:A]
;W[]
;B[af]CR[af]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[ag]CR[ag])
(;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[dh]CR[dh]))
(;W[bg]CR[bg]C[BlueMoon [-\]:  
seidelin [9k\]: hehe
xDarigaaz [9k\]: ok :)
]
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[dh]CR[dh])
(;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[eg]CR[eg]C[agui [6k?\]: e
]
(;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[fh]CR[fh]C[wingnut [-\]: bad for B?
Quinn [11k?\]: w
])
(;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[SitaRam [5k\]: good for w
]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[gh]CR[gh])
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[gg]CR[gg]C[BlueMoon [-\]: hello
]
;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[fh]CR[fh]LB[gf:A]TR[dg][ci][ei]C[davidwatt [7k\]: yes
]
(;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[hh]CR[hh])
(;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[davidwatt [7k\]: hello
wingnut [-\]: :)
birne [1k\]: yes
quijote [27k\]: clear
suducodu [?\]: ya
agui [6k?\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: 8-)
Shikasta [17k\]: =)
petro [-\]: hello
ljl [15k\]: clear
tthaav [-\]: yeah
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes? :)
SitaRam [5k\]: we are here
]))))
(;W[cg]CR[cg]C[ljl [15k\]: poke
neque [-\]: I have one little question sensei... it may seem stupid but it's important for me.... can you say "wassssssuuuup" please ? 
]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[be]CR[be]C[agui [6k?\]: push
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[Grimley [6k\]: neque don't make those stupid comments please
]
(;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[af]CR[af]
;B[bc]CR[bc]C[Grimley [6k\]: this is a serious lesson
]
;W[df]CR[df]LB[ee:A])
(;W[bd]CR[bd]C[SitaRam [5k\]: right
josba: D13
]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[petro [-\]: D13
]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[ag]CR[ag]C[SILD [7k\]: C12 
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[af]CR[af]
;B[df]CR[df]LB[af:C][bf:A][ag:D][bg:B]C[hugogogo [5k\]: poor w
BlueMoon [-\]: big wall
Shikasta [17k\]: no
tthaav [-\]: not for w
SitaRam [5k\]: no
]))))))
(;B[qb]CR[qb]
;W[rb]CR[rb]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[wingnut [-\]: This weeks Home Work
Shikasta [17k\]: never thought id like homework
]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[aa]CR[aa]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[of]CR[of]C[wingnut [-\]: B
wingnut [-\]: Black to play
Scribe [-\]: Homework
wingnut [-\]: thank you mingjiu
xDarigaaz [9k\]: THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Hu [11k?\]: Thank you for the lesson, mingjiu.  Get some quick rest and refreshment and then good luck in your Fujitsu qualifier game!
SILD [7k\]: thanks
seidelin [9k\]: thanks
Shikasta [17k\]: thxs alot
playgo [6k\]: thanks
wingnut [-\]: thanks to Ing foundation
tthaav [-\]: thanks
birne [1k\]: thank you!
wholeboard [7k\]: thanks
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: Thank you
wassssup: Thanks :)
agui [6k?\]: ok , Thank you very much
plonk [19k\]: thx, happy new year, bye!
suducodu [?\]: thank you Gomaster
davidwatt [7k\]: thanks and see you
SakuraHime [8k\]: bye bye
Hu [11k?\]: Happy New Year
agui [6k?\]: See you
SitaRam [5k\]: thank you so much for your affort
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