(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2006-01-29]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] ;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Uvas [-\]: hi wholeboard [7k\]: hi MysticoN [10k\]: hello jujo Nesu [4k?\]: audioooo! Shikasta [17k\]: hi Dakre [3k?\]: hi Conch [13k\]: hello GoIsMyLife [3k\]: hello braincrash [?\]: hi :) blacklabel [13k\]: yes petro [-\]: hi skyu [17k\]: hi wingnut [-\]: Hi Jujo SonYeJin [3k?\]: hello jujo xDarigaaz [9k\]: hi dogenzenji [?\]: hello Bodo212 [16k\]: yes hear SitaRam [5k\]: yes saym [7k?\]: good morning :) Jahz [10k?\]: hi Aivonix [16k\]: yo linfir [?\]: hi softblues [-\]: Good morning.. :) agui [6k?\]: Hello SitaRam [5k\]: nice to hear you Scribe [-\]: Nihao Jiang "Jujo" Laoshi Scribe [-\]: Happy Chinese New Year! SitaRam [5k\]: good evening SonYeJin [3k?\]: Xin Nian Kuai Le ! ljl [15k\]: moring happy53 [12k\]: hello MysticoN [10k\]: why is chinese celebrating new year so late ? MysticoN [10k\]: china* Scribe [-\]: Lunar fryskenfry [18k\]: do i need a certain tool to hear that audio? Uvas [-\]: no Dakre [3k?\]: sure, you need speakers... Uvas [-\]: heh MysticoN [10k\]: hey Uvas :D Uvas [-\]: hi Nesu [4k?\]: 9p? Nesu [4k?\]: :< SonYeJin [3k?\]: 2006-01-27: Rui Naiwei 9p (Black) vs. Cho Hyeyeon 6p (White) fryskenfry [18k\]: i was waiting for that exact answer, dakre. Dakre [3k?\]: ;) ] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[qp]CR[qp]C[Dakre [3k?\]: than i am happy that i didn't disappoint you ;) ] ;W[dp]CR[dp]C[Scribe [-\]: Third and last game of the 7th Korean Female Myeongin ] (;B[op]CR[op]C[Scribe [-\]: common fuseki ] (;W[qj]CR[qj]C[jerkovicj [1d?\]: little bugy, but fine now Scribe [-\]: these moves occur later 37 and 38 ] (;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Scribe [-\]: because p4 is high, poor at taking territory.... ] ;W[qm]CR[qm]C[Dakre [3k?\]: if p4 would be at p3 this fuseki would be ok for black? ] (;B[pl]CR[pl]C[Scribe [-\]: alternate fuseki bad for black ] ;W[ql]CR[ql] ;B[pj]CR[pj] ;W[pk]CR[pk] ;B[ok]CR[ok] ;W[qk]CR[qk] ;B[pi]CR[pi] ;W[ol]CR[ol] ;B[nk]CR[nk] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Scribe [-\]: this has appeared in serveral games already Scribe [-\]: a little favorable for black Scribe [-\]: Rui Naiwei is black Ephemere [5k?\]: k16 wouldn't be better to play a moyo game? Orando [18k\]: laggage aditsu [11k?\]: it sounds as if somebody is strangling the teacher Scribe [-\]: patience Tarkam [9k?\]: :( Nesu [4k?\]: cant hear a thing :/ skyu [17k\]: lag? Ephemere [5k?\]: audio bug braincrash [?\]: yes its lag jerkovicj [1d?\]: k16=? ] (;W[fc]CR[fc]C[partisan [17k\]: no it isnt ] (;B[pc]CR[pc]C[Scribe [-\]: white should have invaded immediately rather than allow balck q17 wingnut [-\]: ok ] (;W[kd]CR[kd]C[Scribe [-\]: top is getting bigger and bigger in variation ] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[ke]CR[ke] ;B[je]CR[je] ;W[kf]CR[kf] ;B[lb]CR[lb]C[Ephemere [5k?\]: k14 ] ;W[of]CR[of]C[Uvas [-\]: not started yet Scribe [-\]: black tries to attack white three stones and wants sente as both sides are big SitaRam [5k\]: bad for b petro [-\]: L12 aditsu [11k?\]: q14 Shikasta [17k\]: r14 Quinn [11k?\]: l12 tthaav [-\]: q14 ligo [?\]: q14 Dakre [3k?\]: maybe j13 to enclose white Uvas [-\]: n16 draugluin [15k\]: N14 kilroy [6k\]: N16 ljl [15k\]: q14 suducodu [?\]: o13 Orando [18k\]: r 14 cemo [13k\]: q14 olczyk [15k\]: N14 adriana [20k\]: N14 braincrash [?\]: j13 Ephemere [5k?\]: must block withe retreat FLgator [5k?\]: k14 xDarigaaz [9k\]: definitly not R14 :) Bodo212 [16k\]: N 14 Shikasta [17k\]: o16? ] (;B[mf]CR[mf]C[SitaRam [5k\]: happy new year Scribe [-\]: black wants corner territory and attack white draugluin [15k\]: yes! ] (;W[oh]CR[oh]C[softblues [-\]: Hehehe ] ;B[qf]CR[qf]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: Hi Nesu [4k?\]: no audio Aivonix [16k\]: yeah happy new year ] ;W[pe]CR[pe]C[ligo [?\]: happy new year jujo! Aivonix [16k\]: erm... suducodu [?\]: hello jujo ]) (;W[lc]CR[lc] ;B[mb]CR[mb] (;W[oh]CR[oh] ;B[qf]CR[qf] (;W[pe]CR[pe]C[Scribe [-\]: double approach is good for black and black got lot of points in top right in variation ] ;B[qe]CR[qe]C[blacklabel [13k\]: no audio? cherisse [12k\]: no audio yet? ] ;W[mg]CR[mg] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[pm]CR[pm]C[MysticoN [10k\]: it was happy new year a long time ago :S Uvas [-\]: not stareted ] (;B[cn]CR[cn]C[agui [6k?\]: no audio ] ;W[mc]CR[mc]C[SitaRam [5k\]: and only the best softblues [-\]: Sit back and relax. Scribe [-\]: perfect for black to play the variation, wingnut [-\]: nice shape for White ] (;B[nb]CR[nb]C[draugluin [15k\]: hello Master! Scribe [-\]: very nice shape for white in variation ] (;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Nesu [4k?\]: i never relax Scribe [-\]: f3 is very important point for both players ] ;B[fq]CR[fq]C[wingnut [-\]: be patient, the lesson is being set up :) Shikasta [17k\]: hi all wingnut [-\]: O16 too slow Scribe [-\]: white o16 move is too slow Scribe [-\]: after f3 whole game good for black Scribe [-\]: black more than 25 points in top Scribe [-\]: white 7 points on right, 7 or 8 on top, left top 10 points Scribe [-\]: white 25 vs black 35 Scribe [-\]: plus black has 2 vs 1 in the lower left...too good for black SitaRam [5k\]: no Ephemere [5k?\]: no, it's ok ligo [?\]: ok suducodu [?\]: no wingnut [-\]: clear SitaRam [5k\]: its clear xDarigaaz [9k\]: its clear petro [-\]: i did not hear it aditsu [11k?\]: it's not very clear but no idea what to ask :) ] ;W[dn]CR[dn] ;B[dm]CR[dm]C[SonYeJin [3k?\]: looks like Rui Naiwei vs. Cho Hyeyeon ] ;W[en]CR[en] (;B[cp]CR[cp] (;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[co]CR[co] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[gp]CR[gp] (;W[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: f4 is too easy for black to build the bottom territory birne [1k\]: Ok, thanks ] ;B[em]CR[em] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[cl]CR[cl]C[Scribe [-\]: after c8 cut is possible ] (;W[do]CR[do]C[Scribe [-\]: 55 is the move before the lunch break ] (;B[fm]CR[fm] ;W[go]CR[go]C[draugluin [15k\]: but now C9 is wasted ] (;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[mq]CR[mq]C[Scribe [-\]: j4 is overplay ] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[kq]CR[kq] ;B[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: too easy a white invasion at n3 due to j4 ] ;W[kp]CR[kp] ;B[in]CR[in] ;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[hp]CR[hp] ;W[jr]CR[jr]C[Scribe [-\]: white played very well here ] (;B[hl]CR[hl] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[ci]CR[ci]) (;B[ir]CR[ir] ;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[hr]CR[hr] ;W[jp]CR[jp]C[wingnut [-\]: real game ] ;B[ci]CR[ci] ;W[hl]CR[hl] ;B[jo]CR[jo]C[Scribe [-\]: game record available at go4go.net olczyk [15k\]: Next time you lecture could you please review your game against Paul Hu? wingnut [-\]: thank you Jujo and Ing Foundation au2 [4k\]: THANKS YOU FOR THE LECTURE Conch [13k\]: thank you suducodu [?\]: Thank you Uvas [-\]: thanks olczyk [15k\]: Yes. Than k you. Kamiah [?\]: thank you birne [1k\]: thank you! davidwatt [7k\]: thanks wholeboard [7k\]: thank you very much Shikasta [17k\]: thxs Ephemere [5k?\]: thank you very much jerkovicj [1d?\]: ths Orando [18k\]: thank yoU! Jahz [10k?\]: thanks a lot ljl [15k\]: thx playgo [6k\]: thanks very much janibi [8k\]: thx tthaav [-\]: thanks! au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION jug [18k\]: thank you Bodo212 [16k\]: thanks skyu [17k\]: thx blacklabel [13k\]: thank you xDarigaaz [9k\]: Thank you very much petro [-\]: very interesting, thank you jujo whendrik [16k\]: Tjhank you JBond: thx wingnut [-\]: bye CiS [21k\]: İ LOVE YOU JUJO! ])) (;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Ephemere [5k?\]: h4 o j3? ] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[kq]CR[kq] ;B[jq]CR[jq])) (;B[jq]CR[jq] (;W[fm]CR[fm] ;B[dk]CR[dk]) (;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[fl]CR[fl]C[Scribe [-\]: easy game for black ]))) (;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[do]CR[do] ;W[eo]CR[eo] ;B[ep]CR[ep] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[fl]CR[fl] ;W[go]CR[go] ;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[in]CR[in] ;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Scribe [-\]: white weak outside and inside is ko ])) (;W[do]CR[do] ;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: too easy on black ])) (;W[co]CR[co] ;B[bo]CR[bo] ;W[do]CR[do] ;B[bm]CR[bm] ;W[cq]CR[cq]C[Scribe [-\]: white sente, reduces black easily in variation ] ;B[bp]CR[bp] ;W[em]CR[em] ;B[dl]CR[dl] ;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[lq]CR[lq] ;W[gp]CR[gp] ;B[dq]CR[dq]C[Scribe [-\]: very hard for white left to make big territory Scribe [-\]: black got corner birne [1k\]: Mr. Jinag, why did white play D6 instead of F4? ])) (;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[cm]CR[cm] ;B[ch]CR[ch] ;W[hq]CR[hq]C[partisan [17k\]: no indeed :) ] ;B[gp]CR[gp] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[hp]CR[hp])) (;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[lg]CR[lg] ;W[mh]CR[mh] ;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[ki]CR[ki])) (;B[fq]CR[fq] ;W[eo]CR[eo] ;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[kc]CR[kc] ;W[ma]CR[ma] ;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Scribe [-\]: not the approach first, hane at m13 first ] ;W[od]CR[od])) (;B[lg]CR[lg] ;W[lf]CR[lf] ;B[cn]CR[cn])) (;W[mg]CR[mg]C[Scribe [-\]: still white can not play at r14, white will be split ] ;B[lg]CR[lg] ;W[lf]CR[lf]C[josba: q15 first ] (;B[ne]CR[ne] ;W[lh]CR[lh]) (;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[me]CR[me] ;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Scribe [-\]: ladder breaker at c6 Scribe [-\]: very interesting game for black xDarigaaz [9k\]: nice ]))) (;W[qf]CR[qf])) (;W[qf]CR[qf]C[olczyk [15k\]: I called it :) ] ;B[pg]CR[pg] ;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[ne]CR[ne]C[Scribe [-\]: splits white draugluin [15k\]: I was first haha Scribe [-\]: very dangerous for white ])) (;B[qf]CR[qf]C[eucmann [11k\]: Q14 quijote [27k\]: q14 Scribe [-\]: r14 too passive happy53 [12k\]: J13 ] ;W[jf]CR[jf] ;B[if]CR[if] ;W[ig]CR[ig] ;B[hf]CR[hf] ;W[ni]CR[ni]C[SitaRam [5k\]: j12 Scribe [-\]: not good for black ]) (;B[ig]CR[ig] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[mh]CR[mh] ;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Scribe [-\]: if white lives, black gets nothing for so many stones Scribe [-\]: lots of risk here ])) (;W[fq]CR[fq] ;B[je]CR[je])) (;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[pm]CR[pm])) (;W[pc]CR[pc]C[petro [-\]: hello playgo [6k\]: yes jerkovicj [1d?\]: j Ephemere [5k?\]: ok MysticoN [10k\]: yes wicket [?\]: hi Orando [18k\]: yes better now Nesu [4k?\]: no Tarkam [9k?\]: yes ljl [15k\]: ok kilroy [6k\]: now i can jerkovicj [1d?\]: fine now GoIsMyLife [3k\]: yy Ellicott [14k\]: ye wingnut [-\]: yes, just some lag Tana [6k\]: yes Conch [13k\]: yes working now Ephemere [5k?\]: that's better Scribe [-\]: lee changho vs cho hyun game in a final as well, white played at q17 Uvas [-\]: i8 can aditsu [11k?\]: better now, but sometimes it lags a lot blacklabel [13k\]: it sometimes lags but most of time is fine suducodu [?\]: no happy53 [12k\]: yes Uvas [-\]: i HEAR playgo [6k\]: sound ok Nesu [4k?\]: ;F happy53 [12k\]: i hear Dakre [3k?\]: yes, sounds good now again jerkovicj [1d?\]: y, can even hear you breathe Tana [6k\]: OK suducodu [?\]: nothing now Nesu [4k?\]: no audio softblues [-\]: He said "hello" some minutes ago GoIsMyLife [3k\]: noting now aditsu [11k?\]: no sound now Tana [6k\]: reagain skyu [17k\]: silent ligo [?\]: i would think of your special move here jujo [9p\]: hi ChipMonk [23k\]: Hmm... szatan777 [1k?\]: i hear Uvas [-\]: yes happy53 [12k\]: i hear Shikasta [17k\]: if problem log out and back in tthaav [-\]: yes jerkovicj [1d?\]: y FLgator [5k?\]: yes emre [12k\]: i hear MysticoN [10k\]: yes Uvas [-\]: I relogged in birne [1k\]: yes xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes kilroy [6k\]: yes tibra [12k?\]: better ChipMonk [23k\]: yes aditsu [11k?\]: works again blacklabel [13k\]: yes petro [-\]: yes jerkovicj [1d?\]: y ligo [?\]: hello Ephemere [5k?\]: yes Orando [18k\]: yr fryskenfry [18k\]: yes, fine. jalapeno [11k\]: yes Ellicott [14k\]: yes partisan [17k\]: yes!!! ljl [15k\]: yes Conch [13k\]: yes suducodu [?\]: what is said? skyu [17k\]: works Bodo212 [16k\]: yes I hear wingnut [-\]: we can hear Nesu [4k?\]: YES playgo [6k\]: hi Orando [18k\]: yes perfect now jerkovicj [1d?\]: ;) ] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[oc]CR[oc] ;B[qb]CR[qb]C[braincrash [?\]: it was always working, just lagged Orando [18k\]: yesd tibra [12k?\]: yes Ephemere [5k?\]: yes partisan [17k\]: yes!!! ligo [?\]: hi Nesu [4k?\]: YEEEEES ] ;W[ne]CR[ne]C[Scribe [-\]: this white q17 is the better move skyu [17k\]: yes aditsu [11k?\]: yes petro [-\]: sure ] ;B[mc]CR[mc]C[Conch [13k\]: yes xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes ] ;W[pe]CR[pe]C[jerkovicj [1d?\]: what's with k16/17 why not k16? ] ;B[od]CR[od]C[jerkovicj [1d?\]: no ] ;W[nd]CR[nd]C[partisan [17k\]: hehe ] ;B[qd]CR[qd] ;W[nc]CR[nc]C[wingnut [-\]: keep going Jujo fryskenfry [18k\]: just go on, no way to improve anyway. ]) (;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[pc]CR[pc] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[qe]CR[qe] ;W[re]CR[re] ;B[rf]CR[rf] ;W[pb]CR[pb] ;B[ob]CR[ob] ;W[oc]CR[oc]C[aditsu [11k?\]: I have the feeling that there is a delay between the position and the audio comment ] (;B[pe]CR[pe]C[Scribe [-\]: r17 is wrong point to invade, black gets almost perfect shape on top ] ;W[nb]CR[nb] ;B[qb]CR[qb] ;W[oa]CR[oa] ;B[rb]CR[rb] ;W[lc]CR[lc]) (;B[od]CR[od] ;W[qb]CR[qb] ;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Scribe [-\]: not good fro black this choice ] ;W[nc]CR[nc] ;B[nb]CR[nb] ;W[mc]CR[mc] ;B[mb]CR[mb] ;W[lc]CR[lc] ;B[lb]CR[lb] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[je]CR[je]C[ChipMonk [23k\]: Whites dead? ]))) (;B[pj]CR[pj]C[playgo [6k\]: tewari ] ;W[pk]CR[pk]C[Scribe [-\]: tewari analysis ] ;B[pi]CR[pi] (;W[ok]CR[ok]C[Scribe [-\]: proper move for whtie ]) (;W[qk]CR[qk] ;B[ok]CR[ok]C[Nesu [4k?\]: laggg? Scribe [-\]: equivalent to game sequence ] ;W[ol]CR[ol] ;B[nk]CR[nk] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[pm]CR[pm] ;B[pl]CR[pl] ;W[ql]CR[ql]C[biomorph [12k\]: P7 and R7 wasted? ]))) (;B[ql]CR[ql] ;W[qf]CR[qf] ;B[nc]CR[nc] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[qc]CR[qc] ;W[ph]CR[ph]C[Scribe [-\]: not good for black ] ;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[db]CR[db] ;W[lq]CR[lq]C[Scribe [-\]: white gets perfect position on right ])) (;W[jq]CR[jq]C[MysticoN [10k\]: yes Conch [13k\]: yes Uvas [-\]: yes Nesu [4k?\]: yeee ljl [15k\]: yes SonYeJin [3k?\]: yes Ruutana [5k\]: Yes SitaRam [5k\]: yes blacklabel [13k\]: yes xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes happy53 [12k\]: yes kilroy [6k\]: yes fryskenfry [18k\]: i am fine now. ] ;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [-\]: like first game they played ])) (;B[fq]CR[fq] ;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[oq]CR[oq]C[Scribe [-\]: this may be more common ] (;W[qj]CR[qj]) (;W[cn]CR[cn])))