(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[jujo]PB[jujo]WR[9p]BR[9p]DT[2006-01-22]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[isnich [18k\]: hi :)
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[Bodo212 [15k\]: good afternoon
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho Black and Park Yeonghun in Korean Judan Title Match (Siptan Wonik Cup)
Scribe [-\]: Game number 3
davidwatt [7k\]: yes fine
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
rondina [19k\]: yes
Uriel [-\]: yes
swilks [7k\]: yes
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[Scribe [-\]: Yes we can hear fine
wholeboard [7k\]: yes good
gobasso [20k?\]: yes
Spartan101 [8k?\]: yep
Bodo212 [15k\]: yes  fine
Shikasta [17k\]: yup
Celesta: yes
smudge [?\]: good audio
ligo [?\]: yes sound is grest
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[swilks [7k\]: very good today
]
(;W[hq]CR[hq]C[Scribe [-\]: very common fuseki
]
(;B[oq]CR[oq]
(;W[cn]CR[cn]C[Ciovo [9k\]: it's ok, a little lag
xDarigaaz [9k\]: its ok now
MontFuji [12k\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: it will be slow and difficult today
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Scribe [-\]: much patience will be required
smudge [?\]: ok
Scribe [-\]: q10 is biggest point on board
oeillet [9k?\]: o17
L2 [1d\]: O17 
Shikasta [17k\]: d10?
braincrash [?\]: o17
swilks [7k\]: k16
shhh: K16 
Zark [5k\]: O17
petro [-\]: L3
olczyk [15k\]: M3 
Dakre [2k?\]: o17
]
(;W[kq]CR[kq]C[fiodendron: l3?
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[Scribe [-\]: after L3, black f3 stone looks bad
L2 [1d\]: K16 
zeroblue42 [15k\]: K16 
davidwatt [7k\]: K16 
Ringelpiez [12k\]: C3
imbad [13k\]: k16
braincrash [?\]: c17
]
(;B[mc]CR[mc]C[Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho is White
Ordiac [8k\]: ws4 here ? or o3
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
(;B[ge]CR[ge]
(;W[gd]CR[gd]C[Scribe [-\]: too easy for white to enclose the top left.  black must move out
Scribe [-\]: fight!
Scribe [-\]: not common style for lee changho
L2 [1d\]: why keima and not just jump at F15?
]
(;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[fe]CR[fe]C[Scribe [-\]: hard problem for black
]
(;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]C[Scribe [-\]: white must cut inside not outside at move 22
]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
(;B[ce]CR[ce]
(;W[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [-\]: these moves are nearly without choice
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[bf]CR[bf]C[IvanIV [17k?\]: sound is well
Scribe [-\]: not dangerous for white....only black will suffer in the variation
SitaRam [5k\]: sound is bad
Hu [11k?\]: Please discuss sound problems in the room only, not here.
isnich [18k\]: yo
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[ae]CR[ae]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Uvas [-\]: ok here
Scribe [-\]: many moves in this corner, but there really is not choice regarding these moves
xDarigaaz [9k\]: its ok
Marfjuhhh [27k?\]: It's long over, please continue
juhop [-\]: yes
imbad [13k\]: ok
davidwatt [7k\]: yes can hear you
Shikasta [17k\]: ok
SitaRam [5k\]: now
tthaav [-\]: yes ok
Bodo212 [15k\]: I cannhear good
wholeboard [7k\]: ok now
Uvas [-\]: yes
Ordiac [8k\]: lol probably too many listeners
Spartan101 [8k?\]: yep
hideaki87 [16k\]: ok
SILD [7k\]: its ok
petro [-\]: sound is OK
Hu [11k?\]: Sound ok
Scribe [-\]: Sound will come and go all day
bigfish [6k?\]: yes
Ordiac [8k\]: sure
imbad [13k\]: sound good
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Scribe [-\]: please be patient
]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
(;W[eg]CR[eg]C[Ordiac [8k\]: atari?
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
(;W[ck]CR[ck]C[Scribe [-\]: white has very strong outside adn very good shape outside in variation
]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
(;W[id]CR[id]C[Scribe [-\]: j15 and j16 would be too good fro black, white must answer to prevent variation
]
(;B[dj]CR[dj]C[Ordiac [8k\]: 22k on kgs better than 22k igs ..
]
(;W[if]CR[if]
(;B[ig]CR[ig]C[Scribe [-\]: move 45: very nice shape for black, runs out fast and removes aji of white b12 move
oeillet [9k?\]: :)
Scribe [-\]: black h13 is funny shape (variation)
]
(;W[he]CR[he]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[gh]CR[gh]
(;W[pp]CR[pp]C[Scribe [-\]: white q4 ladder maker
]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[davidwatt [7k\]: hello
xDarigaaz [9k\]: hi
xix [19k?\]: hi
SitaRam [5k\]: hallo
davidwatt [7k\]: yes
SitaRam [5k\]: yes
xix [19k?\]: y
freeks [13k\]: yes, clearly
murky: Hello, Goodmorning
eternal [?\]: hello
zelifor [12k?\]: hello
freeks [13k\]: hello :)
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Laoshi
Spartan101 [8k?\]: hello
GOcats [10k\]: hello#
]
(;W[fi]CR[fi]
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[hh]CR[hh]C[Uvas [-\]: ladder!
]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[jg]CR[jg])
(;B[gi]CR[gi]C[Scribe [-\]: but black does not need the ladder
Scribe [-\]: black g11 is good enough
Scribe [-\]: white can not escape after g11
Ciovo [9k\]: :)
Ordiac [8k\]: the girl presentarors are cute too
olczyk [15k\]: You can see the players cry, when they make a mistake.
davidwatt [7k\]: hehe:)
Scribe [-\]: people like live, fast games because mistakes happen, just like with humans
freeks [13k\]: is there any internet site where we can watch games on tv?
]))
(;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Scribe [-\]: baduk tv on korean tv
olczyk [15k\]: Scribe are you saying that pros are not human?
Scribe [-\]: white wins game due to later black error....big mistake
Ciovo [9k\]: thanks to you a lot!!!
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to Jiang Jujo Laoshi for the lesson
Ordiac [8k\]: yep thx to ing
freeks [13k\]: thanks jujo :D
SILD [7k\]: thanks
olczyk [15k\]: Thank you very much.
swilks [7k\]: thank you.
Simmuhaamu [22k?\]: ty
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR THE LECTURE
MacKniver [26k\]: thanks
Bodo212 [15k\]: thanks to you
Hu [11k?\]: Thank you Jujo!
davidwatt [7k\]: thank you!
tthaav [-\]: thanks
murky: Thanks very much
wholeboard [7k\]: thanks!
Shikasta [17k\]: thxs alot
Uvas [-\]: thank you
linfir [?\]: thanks
leary [12k\]: thanks a lot
Kouvondale [25k?\]: ty
Zark [5k\]: thank you
losted [10k\]: thanks a lot for the lecture =)
bison [7k\]: thanks
cdub [?\]: ty
xDarigaaz [9k\]: Thanks
Marfjuhhh [27k?\]: :) yes thanks alot :\]
abbadan [?\]: thanks
bigfish [6k?\]: thanks
lcrypt [25k\]: thanks
juve [16k?\]: echo?
Celesta: thank you :)
Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Foundation for making this possible
imbad [13k\]: thanks jujo
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
shhh: thx Jujo and MR Ing :)
vince [7k\]: thank you
bigfish [6k?\]: tahnks
GrandYan [7k?\]: Thank you.
SitaRam [5k\]: thx very much
playm8 [4k?\]: thx for the lecture
agui [6k?\]: thank you very much
]))
(;W[fi]CR[fi]C[Scribe [-\]: single stone at j15 is small, discard single stone, attack white weak group
Scribe [-\]: disaster
]
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[ih]CR[ih])
(;B[gi]CR[gi]
(;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[ei]CR[ei])
(;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[fj]CR[fj]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Scribe [-\]: white enclosed
freeks [13k\]: so white resigned in the game?
])))
(;W[ei]CR[ei]C[freeks [13k\]: f11?
petro [-\]: F11
bigfish [6k?\]: f9
SitaRam [5k\]: f10
L2 [1d\]: F10 
Ciovo [9k\]: F10
Marfjuhhh [27k?\]: F10 i think
niceNeasy [9k\]: F10 
Kouvondale [25k?\]: f10
hideaki87 [16k\]: f12?
Ordiac [8k\]: f5
]
;B[fj]CR[fj]C[Simmuhaamu [22k?\]: k10
agui [6k?\]: F9
freeks [13k\]: ah yes
freeks [13k\]: f10 :)
]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[fi]CR[fi]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
(;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[hi]CR[hi])
(;B[hg]CR[hg])))
(;W[je]CR[je]C[Scribe [-\]: very strong move at j13
]))
(;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[fk]CR[fk]C[Scribe [-\]: not good for black
]))
(;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[bi]CR[bi]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[dg]CR[dg]C[hideaki87 [16k\]: igs?
]))
(;B[je]CR[je]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[bi]CR[bi]
;W[di]CR[di]C[Scribe [-\]: sente cut
]
;B[ig]CR[ig]C[bigfish [6k?\]: a13
Ciovo [9k\]: A13
oeillet [9k?\]: a13
davidwatt [7k\]: A13 
Simmuhaamu [22k?\]: a13
]
;W[ag]CR[ag]C[freeks [13k\]: lol
Uvas [-\]: :)
Marfjuhhh [27k?\]: haha :P i didnt saw 
]))
(;W[fi]CR[fi]
;B[id]CR[id]
(;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[dj]CR[dj])
(;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[hc]CR[hc])))
(;W[hg]CR[hg]C[Scribe [-\]: geta
Scribe [-\]: white kills three stones
Ordiac [8k\]: u rather have w ?
]))
(;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[dj]CR[dj]
;B[bk]CR[bk]
;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[gh]CR[gh]C[Scribe [-\]: toof fancy...not good fro white
]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[fh]CR[fh]C[Scribe [-\]: can not enclose black
]))
(;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[bf]CR[bf]))
(;B[db]CR[db]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[ea]CR[ea]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[df]CR[df]C[Ordiac [8k\]: 'audio crash'
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[fg]CR[fg]C[Hu [11k?\]: Please discuss sound problems in the room only, not here.
]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[bb]CR[bb]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[ej]CR[ej]C[Ordiac [8k\]: who has sound problem?
Ciovo [9k\]: terrible shape for black
Scribe [-\]: very heavy for black
]))
(;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
(;B[de]CR[de]
;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cd]CR[cd]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[Scribe [-\]: this is black's plan
Scribe [-\]: white has lost too much in corner
])
(;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[dh]CR[dh])))
(;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[ff]CR[ff]))
(;B[fd]CR[fd]C[Scribe [-\]: but his style is changing due to the people he is playing against....korean youngters
]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[eh]CR[eh]C[Scribe [-\]: sequence good for white
]
;W[fi]CR[fi])
(;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[fh]CR[fh]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white, black stones still weak
])))
(;W[he]CR[he]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[hf]CR[hf]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[ih]CR[ih]
;B[gi]CR[gi]C[Scribe [-\]: white wall is useless due to n17 stone
Scribe [-\]: white stones are weak
Scribe [-\]: white left side is damanged
]))
(;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[fd]CR[fd]))
(;B[jd]CR[jd]C[oeillet [9k?\]: j16
dosaku [2d?\]: D18 
swilks [7k\]: k16
Ordiac [8k\]: k4
SitaRam [5k\]: d18
xDarigaaz [9k\]: J16
murky: o17
Scribe [-\]: k16 creates weakness in corner, easy for white to invade at the 3-3 point.  will result in both k16 and q10 being too close to black thickness in upper right corner
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]C[freeks [13k\]: doublewing?
]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qf]CR[qf]))
(;W[jd]CR[jd]C[dosaku [2d?\]: O17 
Ciovo [9k\]: o17
SitaRam [5k\]: m3
])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Scribe [-\]: L3 very good move
]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[xix [19k?\]: h5
]
;W[jd]CR[jd]C[Scribe [-\]: k16 first is a little slow
Ciovo [9k\]: can black pincer if white o17?
Scribe [-\]: better to play at o17 and return to k16, if white wants to play on the top
]
;B[jq]CR[jq]C[Scribe [-\]: k3 very good for black
Shikasta [17k\]: is m3 too much?
]))
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[fc]CR[fc]C[smudge [?\]: lost the audio?
]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[oeillet [9k?\]: me too
davidwatt [7k\]: audio problems:(
Scribe [-\]: another common fuseki
rondina [19k\]: no audio
shhh: it's just lag, don't panic
Scribe [-\]: yes
crimatix [13k\]: yes
oeillet [9k?\]: audio back
crimatix [13k\]: yes
smudge [?\]: yes
murky: Yes
freeks [13k\]: yes
Faab [18k\]: sound's fine
SonYeJin [3k?\]: yes
rondina [19k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: Yes we can hear
SitaRam [5k\]: now
swilks [7k\]: yes.
juve [16k?\]: yes
eternal [?\]: yes
rondina [19k\]: audio back
Bodo212 [15k\]: i can hear
isnich [18k\]: yes
]))
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dr]CR[dr]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[Scribe [-\]: one option is black takes the corner, but bottom p3 move is too good for white, black can not follow this choice
]
(;B[po]CR[po]
(;W[mp]CR[mp])
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[np]CR[np]))
(;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[L2 [1d\]: how about Q6 instead of kosumi? is that not faster?
Scribe [-\]: white creates moyo on the bottom.  not an option for Black to play this way
])))
(;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Scribe [-\]: white does not want to allow the mini-chinese by black
Scribe [-\]: therefore white pincered
]))