(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
PW[Lee ChanHo]PB[Luo XiHe]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2006-01-15]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[B: Luo XiHe 9p (罗洗河, China)
W: Lee ChangHo 9p (李昌镐, Korea)

Event: 10th Samsung Cup, finals game 3
komi: 6.5
Date: 2006-01-13
Place: Korea
Result: B+5,5

Commentators:
Wang Jian Kun 7p
Hua Xue Ming 7p
Guo Juan 5p


freeks [12k\]: hi guo juan lao shi ^^
agui [6k?\]: Hello
rakdver [8k\]: hello
agui [6k?\]: yes
happy53 [12k\]: hi
Quinn [11k?\]: hi
murky: Hi
totylkoja [?\]: Hi :)
Ozymandius [15k\]: Hi
Firzen [17k\]: yeah
freeks [12k\]: I hello, yes
Hu [11k?\]: Hello, sound is clear ^^
Dinitak [-\]: hi
Saichiro [16k?\]: Hi
Scribe [-\]: Nihao Guo Juan Laoshi
blacklabel [12k\]: yes
suducodu [?\]: Cool we have commentors ;)
suducodu [?\]: NI hao
SILD [7k\]: yea
Inkognito [4k?\]: hi
xDarigaaz [9k\]: Hi
Lestard [2k\]: wanshang hao
]
(;B[pd]CR[pd]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[Scribe [-\]: 10th Samsung Cup Result 2-1 for Luo Xihe
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Scribe [-\]: black won all games
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[db]CR[db]C[murky: Like dringking wine
Scribe [-\]: First time Lee Changho lost an Internation Tournament to a non-Korean
]
(;W[hc]CR[hc]C[Scribe [-\]: Identical to first game up to move 12
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: for first game see variation
]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[eb]CR[eb]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[ge]CR[ge]C[Scribe [-\]: this is normally used when the ladder is good for white
]
;B[dr]CR[dr]C[Scribe [-\]: Luo Xihe prefers territory
]
(;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[er]CR[er]C[partisan [18k\]: we have sound :)
Scribe [-\]: correct we dont hear the stone sounds
Quinn [11k?\]: i dont think thats important
Zark [5k\]: the stone sound is anoying :)
partisan [18k\]: we hear you :)
Scribe [-\]: but we hear you speaking very well
DrGoPlayer [-\]: its ok
ligo [?\]: i prefer no stone sound
pel [11k\]: zark is right.
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
(;B[gq]CR[gq]C[freeks [12k\]: sounds good :)
Scribe [-\]: Luo Xihe left home at age 6 to live in a go master's house in Bejing
Horc [4k\]: ah i want too
Scribe [-\]: Could you write the name please ?
davidwatt [9k\]: not at all:)
guojuan [5p\]: Luo Jian Wen
DrGoPlayer [-\]: its fine
Kamiah [?\]: i like the stories
ligo [?\]: i like storeis
guojuan [5p\]: 7p
Scribe [-\]: We like the stories
cdub [?\]: i like stories
freeks [12k\]: I'd like to live in china in a go masters school :)
Scribe [-\]: Luo Jian Wen taught Luo Xihe, one of the best Chinese players in the '60s
wrong [?\]: like Li Yue I guess ;)
freeks [12k\]: who?
freeks [12k\]: @wrong
cdub [?\]: sounds like my apartment....only no go master
wrong [?\]: liyue
pel [11k\]: lol
Horc [4k\]: a femal player
freeks [12k\]: ah lol I know I know
freeks [12k\]: I know her but I thought about your question wrong
Scribe [-\]: normally considered a bad move to play g3...running into whites block
]
;W[gp]CR[gp]C[Horc [4k\]: yea =)
wingnut [-\]: go jokes :P
]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[pel [11k\]: hillarious :)
ligo [?\]: those kind of moves would make goos book
freeks [12k\]: I knew it 
ligo [?\]: good
freeks [12k\]: someone said josekis are not good or sth. -.-
Scribe [-\]: joseki are normal sequences BUT dont just follow them, use them as patterns and sources of ideas
Quinn [11k?\]: alright tomorrow ill create a new move :)
Horc [4k\]: ^^
Scribe [-\]: weak professionals dont modify their joseki
wingnut [-\]: experience
wrong [?\]: or better intuition
Horc [4k\]: still b looks bad
blacklabel [12k\]: wek pros ... ;)
]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[wrong [?\]: as said: Meijin can win without counting
freeks [12k\]: gamne?
freeks [12k\]: -n
partisan [18k\]: i modify allthe time, have no idea about joseki :(
Bomberman [17k\]: you can filter it could be good
Scribe [-\]: Please do not use the game as a chat room
freeks [12k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: Specific questions are welcome
]
;W[bd]CR[bd]C[suducodu [?\]: It'sfine now
freeks [12k\]: lag
]
;B[bc]CR[bc]C[partisan [18k\]: there was a short lag
davidwatt [9k\]: alot of lag, can just hear you
cdub [?\]: yes
]
(;W[gr]CR[gr]C[Scribe [-\]: patience needed
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]C[wingnut [-\]: some lag I think
Scribe [-\]: closes left siee
]
;W[hs]CR[hs]C[partisan [18k\]: now its fine again
Scribe [-\]: side
]
(;B[dj]CR[dj]LB[ch:A][fj:C][cl:B]C[Horc [4k\]: it's gone
Scribe [-\]: deep invasion ?  seems too deep ?
]
;W[br]CR[br]C[Scribe [-\]: white would never respond to e10 with c10 , c10 is just too low
Inkognito [4k?\]: corners live in seki
Scribe [-\]: 2 hours time per player
Scribe [-\]: very short for professionals
Scribe [-\]: not much time to think
Uberdude [14k\]: w or b is fast?
Scribe [-\]: good for Luo Xihe, he is a very fast player
]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[ar]CR[ar]LB[en:A][hp:B]C[Horc [4k\]: F11 seems good
Quinn [11k?\]: why not f10?
Scribe [-\]: hard to attack d10
]
;W[ej]CR[ej]C[Scribe [-\]: white force in corner to close left side below
Scribe [-\]: contact weak stone !!!!
Scribe [-\]: white has issues at both d6 and h4
]
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[Scribe [-\]: crosscut splits black stones
Talaer [10k?\]: audio gone?
huxley [16k\]: voice lag
Scribe [-\]: please wait patiently
Uberdude [14k\]: yep
partisan [18k\]: laq?
SILD [7k\]: audio?
agui [6k?\]: no audio
partisan [18k\]: not only audio
suducodu [?\]: audio is gone...
blacklabel [12k\]: Scribe [-\]: please wait patiently
Scribe [-\]: please wait patiently
losted [10k?\]: geez, i think we get the message when 10 ppl write the SAME thing
Falkor [18k\]: we have all noticed. Please stop stating the obvious ;-)
dub3: you all scared her away
TheDoctor [16k?\]: and please stop telling people to stop mentioning it :P
losted [10k?\]: probably a connection problem, should just wait
suducodu [?\]: Looks like Guo got disconnected
wrong [?\]: in the meantime...
dub3: hi :)
Bomberman [17k\]: back :)
jramon [15k\]: hi
Uberdude [14k\]: yes
MrAnderson: yes
jramon [15k\]: yes
imbad [13k\]: yes
Ciovo [9k\]: yes, it's ok
xix [?\]: y
murky: Yes, we doi
Scribe [-\]: Welcome back Guo Juan
Quinn [11k?\]: wb
Horc [4k\]: wheeee
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]C[suducodu [?\]: Oh, hello again
fringd [9k\]: hear you now
gogogo07: nice to here you again
tibra [13k?\]: all right
huxley [16k\]: couldnt anyone improve this kgs software
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]LB[bj:B][el:A]C[Scribe [-\]: g6 *
Horc [4k\]: indeed
MrAnderson: w played e10 hoping for crosscut?
murky: glad are we
Scribe [-\]: no problem, thank you for returning
Horc [4k\]: e11
Scribe [-\]: c8 is very good move to "close one door" allowing black to begin building a base
]
;W[el]CR[el]C[Scribe [-\]: c8 also allows black to play e8
]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: closes the second door, base
Scribe [-\]: close first door in sente
Uberdude [14k\]: importnat to do down first?
]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[ci]CR[ci]C[giak2w [1d\]: can you show the sequence if white plays the "other door"?
]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[ei]CR[ei]C[Scribe [-\]: white left side territory gone.  trying to build in center
]
(;W[dh]CR[dh]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[cd]CR[cd]LB[ei:A]C[Scribe [-\]: (variation) black has half eye at d10 in sente .  absolutely alive
Inkognito [4k?\]: e15
Scribe [-\]: regarding e11.  any dead stones still on board can be made useful
Scribe [-\]: aji
Scribe [-\]: opportunity
Scribe [-\]: remove stone from board when possible, remove the aji
]
(;B[mg]CR[mg]LB[hd:A]C[Scribe [-\]: very talented move
Firzen [17k\]: is leaving them on board what is called ajikeshi?
Scribe [-\]: reduce white center
Scribe [-\]: Please see http://senseis.xmp.net for word definitions
Uberdude [14k\]: firzen i think that is when you play moves which waste your good aji
MrAnderson: this is on the boundary of 2 moyos
gogogo07: lader
wrong [?\]: reduce moyo
Uberdude [14k\]: ladder breaker
ligo [?\]: ladder break
freeks [12k\]: ladder
Scribe [-\]: Question: what is the meaning of Black n13 move
Horc [4k\]: reduce middle create moyo
davidwatt [9k\]: limit centre territory
dub3: it's an invasion of white moyo, a ladder breaker and potentially increases black moyo
JamesJoker [7k\]: moyo move
wingnut [-\]: reduce W moyo expand B's?
Horc [4k\]: 3 meanings very strong
JamesJoker [7k\]: on the middle of two mojos
blacklabel [12k\]: triple purpose move
braincrash [?\]: reduce and threat b moyo
MrAnderson: reduce white moyo while enlarging black one
Kerrick [12k?\]: keep center open
]
(;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[og]TR[gc][hc][hd][ge][mg][og][eh][ej][ek][el][fp][gp]C[Talaer [10k?\]: wow
Horc [4k\]: great
Scribe [-\]: no choice to capture at h16
Scribe [-\]: must
Scribe [-\]: either lose left top side stones or top area
gogogo07: :-)
Scribe [-\]: http://audiogolessons.com
wingnut [-\]: hehe
DrGoPlayer [-\]: what java version is needed?
imbad [13k\]: paypal?
freeks [12k\]: yes paypal
Scribe [-\]: one euro per lesson/game for one month of repeated viewing
Talaer [10k?\]: seems a hard game for W now
Scribe [-\]: black n13, p13, and q14 limit white development.  make many white stones ineffective
]
(;W[pl]CR[pl]C[DangoMouse [-\]: should white have captured the ladder earlier or was it too slow?
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[nb]CR[nb]C[Scribe [-\]: after black n13, p13, and 414
]
(;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Scribe [-\]: white must destory white
Scribe [-\]: white must destroy black area on right side
Horc [4k\]: w behnd
Scribe [-\]: dont play directly to destroy
Scribe [-\]: find a weak group, attack it, and walk with it into the moyo area
davidwatt [9k\]: yes very:)
blacklabel [12k\]: yes
Talaer [10k?\]: very good
Falkor [18k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: best way to destroy moyo area
gogogo07: yeep
SILD [7k\]: yes
Remoth0 [21k?\]: yes
Bodo212 [16k\]: yes -thx
wingnut [-\]: yes clear
agui [6k?\]: yes
]
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Scribe [-\]: force other to run into his own moyo area
Scribe [-\]: to keep a moyo...no weak groups allowed, strive to live locally, not run or escape to center
Scribe [-\]: black is stronger and whte moyo becomes smaller after r5
]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[kd]CR[kd]C[MrAnderson: why not R5 instead of R6 ?
suducodu [?\]: Yes we hear
]
(;B[ro]CR[ro]C[Scribe [-\]: s5 typical Luo Xihe
Scribe [-\]: keep white group weak
Scribe [-\]: try to chase it into the white moyo 
Inkognito [4k?\]: audio??????
SILD [7k\]: @.q
Horc [4k\]: ya
Falkor [18k\]: yes
Remoth0 [21k?\]: yes
wrong [?\]: please, can you repeat comment about M3 move
xix [?\]: twice
SILD [7k\]: yes
Firzen [17k\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: yes
rakdver [8k\]: yes
Bodo212 [16k\]: yes
losted [10k?\]: back to normal now
agui [6k?\]: yes
tibra [13k?\]: yes
cdub [?\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: please repeat comment regarding m3
Scribe [-\]: we did not hear
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: m3 better?
Scribe [-\]: s5 is sente for both black and white, extremely big
]
(;W[nk]CR[nk]C[Scribe [-\]: all say good for black at this point
]
;B[nn]CR[nn]C[Falkor [18k\]: when is it best to escape with the knight's move?
]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[ol]CR[ol]C[Scribe [-\]: white must prevent balck m3 now
Scribe [-\]: only move
]
(;W[om]CR[om]
;B[nl]CR[nl]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
(;B[mm]CR[mm]
;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
(;B[pm]CR[pm]C[Scribe [-\]: Aims at the moyo, yes !  black very strong facing the moyo
]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: at what point uberdude ? (move number ?)
]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[rj]CR[rj]C[Uberdude [14k\]: when black played r12
]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Uberdude [14k\]: why didn't black r9 instead of r12?
wrong [?\]: ko
Scribe [-\]: very dangerous for black
Falkor [18k\]: I have a bad feeling about this...
]
;W[rk]CR[rk]C[Uberdude [14k\]: why didn't black r9?
Quinn [11k?\]: taking aji out
wrong [?\]: now strong to attack moyo
Scribe [-\]: black took two stones. Why  ?  only three points
MrAnderson: he is alive in center
fringd [9k\]: aims at th moyo
imbad [13k\]: close in white
totylkoja [?\]: he can attack moyo now
ligo [?\]: reduce moyo
Horc [4k\]: sente
Scribe [-\]: when leading, simplfy the game, nothing complicated
]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[kq]CR[kq]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[wrong [?\]: B gets sente
]
;B[ob]CR[ob]C[Uberdude [14k\]: ok, i tohught it would keep white weak
Scribe [-\]: black take points, biggest move
wingnut [-\]: Ko is a needless risk for B
MysticoN [10k\]: P19 
Scribe [-\]: all say game is good for black now
fauli [10k\]: is this counted or feeling? ( the biggest move)
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: k8?
Freshmeat [13k\]: play at tengen
wrong [?\]: yes
Horc [4k\]: nope
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: k8?
Firzen [17k\]: K13
Scribe [-\]: Cho Hun Hyun says white needs 20 point with moyo to have a chance
Firzen [17k\]: ?
wrong [?\]: I heard it was Yu Changhyuk
]
;W[ac]CR[ac]C[fab [1d\]: Yoo ChangHyuk
]
(;B[bb]CR[bb]C[Scribe [-\]: perhaps Chinese pronounciation of Hanzi that are said differently in Korea
]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[bl]CR[bl]C[Scribe [-\]: Guo Juan pro's name in Hanzi please
Scribe [-\]:  Yoo ChangHyuk in Hanzi
]
;W[dl]CR[dl]C[fab [1d\]: http://gobase.org/information/players/?pp=Yoo%20ChangHyuk
wingnut [-\]: 刘昌赫?
MysticoN [10k\]: oh
MysticoN [10k\]: nice
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[km]CR[km]C[MrAnderson: it feel too close to thickness
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: j5? b
Scribe [-\]: L7 two reasons for this move
Scribe [-\]: appears to be overplay but
Scribe [-\]: 1. white must get maximum points in center
]
(;B[ln]CR[ln]C[Scribe [-\]: 2. aims to attack black weakness
Scribe [-\]: m6 seems like a slow move but necessary
Scribe [-\]: why ?  see variation
]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[jj]CR[jj]TR[km][jn][ho]C[janibi [8k\]: wow
Scribe [-\]: white can exploit many weaknesses if black does not defend at m6
Scribe [-\]: white closed right center by attacking black thickness !
Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho very very strong...best
]
(;W[ij]CR[ij]
;B[ii]CR[ii]
;W[ji]CR[ji]C[partisan [18k\]: boring :)
Scribe [-\]: normal but boring to play j9
Scribe [-\]: very strong crosscut
]
(;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[lc]CR[lc]
(;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[ld]CR[ld]C[Horc [4k\]: yes
freeks [12k\]: yes
cdub [?\]: yes
]
;B[fi]CR[fi]LB[fg:A]
;W[gh]CR[gh]C[Scribe [-\]: moves on top to help center
]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[ki]CR[ki]C[Scribe [-\]: lunch break move
]
(;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[je]CR[je]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[kk]CR[kk]C[dub3: why not ask the players afterwards?
]
;B[gk]CR[gk]
;W[gl]LB[gl:B][km:A]C[Scribe [-\]: moves from L7 (108?) to 146 are very good for white
wrong [?\]: W succeeded in making 20 points?
Scribe [-\]: points on top and kept territory in center
]
;B[ri]CR[ri]LB[oi:A]C[Scribe [-\]: black did not gain any points between these moves
Scribe [-\]: sente lest white dies
]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[nr]LB[ri:A][nr:B]C[Scribe [-\]: both s11 and o2 are big moves
Scribe [-\]: all think black leading a little bit
Scribe [-\]: perhaps 1 or 2 points
MysticoN [10k\]: cant b be cutted at Q13 ?
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]LB[mk:A]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[ll]CR[ll]
;B[mk]CR[mk]LB[ma:C][na:B][oa:D][mb:E][pf:A]C[Scribe [-\]: 1. Lee does not think he is leading
herogo:  can we ask question?
Scribe [-\]: 2. if white connect at q14, black gets 22 points in upper right
]
;W[qd]CR[qd]LB[km:A][ln:B]C[MysticoN [10k\]: oh
Scribe [-\]: surprising move !
Scribe [-\]: two reasons
Scribe [-\]: when studying pro games strive to find reason for any seemingly strange move
Scribe [-\]: situation a little good fro white
Horc [4k\]: style
Horc [4k\]: oh
]
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[of]CR[of]C[Scribe [-\]: considered game losing move at r16
]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[pe]CR[pe]C[Scribe [-\]: Luo Xihe creates ko
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Scribe [-\]: but black will win the ko !
murky: sound lagging
MysticoN [10k\]: wasnt Luo Xihe called ... King of ko`s ?
MysticoN [10k\]: :P
herogo: if white doesn't start the ko, is he still leading?
Nikolas73 [29k?\]: audio's breaking up on my computer
WoolyMaCha [13k\]: who is W  ?
fringd [9k\]: i hear you now
]
;B[oe]CR[oe]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: damn lags
Horc [4k\]: let's see the ko
herogo: do you think white is not necessary to go 
WoolyMaCha [13k\]: thx
tildebis [17k\]: yes
Horc [4k\]: yup
]
;W[bj]CR[bj]C[gogogo07: pay the phonebill ;-)
]
;B[bi]CR[bi]C[Hannes [12k\]: yes
]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[wingnut [-\]: S19 tesuji
]
(;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: locally s19 tesuji
]
;B[qa]CR[qa]
;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[sa]CR[sa]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
;B[sc]CR[sc]
;W[sd]CR[sd]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[sb]CR[sb]
(;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[ra]CR[ra]
;B[nf]LB[nf:A]C[Horc [4k\]: not possible for b ?
Horc [4k\]: he won the race
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Scribe [-\]: corner now white !
fringd [9k\]: :/ kgs is really laggy today
Scribe [-\]: after black plays o14 he gains ko threats against white group on right side
]
;B[ni]CR[ni]C[tildebis [17k\]: that's ok now
herogo: yes
fringd [9k\]: yes 
Scribe [-\]: yes
Talaer [10k?\]: yes
kuivis [26k\]: yes
davidwatt [9k\]: yes
cdub [?\]: hi
tildebis [17k\]: yes
suducodu [?\]: Sound keeps going away >.< 
Bodo212 [16k\]: yes
murky: sound back
MysticoN [10k\]: ye
dub3: yes
agui [6k?\]: yes
fringd [9k\]: we do hear you
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]C[bigfish [6k?\]: yes
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: terrible lags
]
;W[af]CR[af]C[partisan [18k\]: you make a nive job :)
]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[partisan [18k\]: nice .)
]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[in]CR[in]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ae]CR[ae]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[hn]CR[hn]C[Scribe [-\]: h6 winning move
herogo: why?
Scribe [-\]: creates many ko threats for black
]
;W[hp]CR[hp]C[MysticoN [10k\]: wow
]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[ad]CR[ad]
;B[ba]CR[ba]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[hk]CR[hk]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[aj]CR[aj]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[jl]CR[jl]
;W[kl]CR[kl]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[al]CR[al]
;B[bk]CR[bk]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[il]CR[il]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[ga]CR[ga]
;B[fa]CR[fa]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rl]CR[rl]C[Scribe [-\]: black does not lose any points in these ko threats
]
;W[sk]CR[sk]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[da]CR[da]C[Horc [4k\]: no
davidwatt [9k\]: no
Horc [4k\]: ok
]
;B[ca]CR[ca]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[sl]CR[sl]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[so]CR[so]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[ql]CR[ql]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[ag]CR[ag]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[sj]CR[sj]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[sn]CR[sn]
;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[os]CR[os]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rm]CR[rm]LB[nf:A]C[murky: White?
Scribe [-\]: now black starts losing points in ko threats
]
;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[jq]CR[jq]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[na]CR[na]
;W[pa]CR[pa]C[Scribe [-\]: white losing points in ko threats
]
;B[la]CR[la]C[gogogo07: lol
Horc [4k\]: hard
Scribe [-\]: white lost enough points that black no longer has to win the ko to win game
Ciovo [9k\]: incredible!
murky: white?
Scribe [-\]: white lost too much to win ko
ligo [?\]: isnt g7 a big ko threat too for b
partisan [18k\]: isnt right he won the ko but lost the game
herogo: so lee chanho shouldn't go R16?
xDarigaaz [9k\]: how can he read so fast? :)
Scribe [-\]: Lee Changho in byoyomi before the r16 ko started
emk [5k\]: igit! =)
herogo: so lee chanho shouldn't go R16?
xDarigaaz [9k\]: ok :)
]
;W[kb]CR[kb]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[qa]CR[qa]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[gn]CR[gn]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[jf]CR[jf]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[ke]CR[ke]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[hg]CR[hg]LB[gh:A][hh:B]
;W[fk]CR[fk]
;B[ha]CR[ha]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[ma]CR[ma]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[ka]CR[ka]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[ia]CR[ia]
;W[jc]CR[jc]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[me]CR[me]C[herogo: so lee chan ho shouldn't go R16 at the beginning?
]
;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Scribe [-\]: white on top lost nearly all points
]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[lr]CR[lr]
;B[re]CR[re]C[wingnut [-\]: great game 
Talaer [10k?\]: thanks so much
Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Guo Juan Laoshi
tildebis [17k\]: thx
Horc [4k\]: with how many points did he win ?
Scribe [-\]: Remarkable game
darrell [10k\]: Thank you
partisan [18k\]: i did :)
davidwatt [9k\]: thanks very much it was a very intresting game
Pilsun [21k\]: thank you very much.
MrAnderson: thx :)
cdub [?\]: thank you very much
petro [-\]: very interesting
Firzen [17k\]: 5.5
Horc [4k\]: ok
quijote [25k?\]: gracias
tibra [13k?\]: thank a lot
fringd [9k\]: thank you so much, great game
wrong [?\]: xiexie ni
xDarigaaz [9k\]: Thank you very much
Remoth0 [21k?\]: Thank you
kuivis [26k\]: thank you very very much
Firzen [17k\]: thanks a lot
freeks [12k\]: thank you guo juan-sensei :D
tildebis [17k\]: nice
au2 [4k\]: THANKS FOR REVIEW OF GREAT GAME
suducodu [?\]: thanks alot guo!  
Scribe [-\]: http://audiogolessons.com/
hihf [11k\]: thank you
totylkoja [?\]: Thank you very much 
guojuan [5p\]: 1 euro 
Horc [4k\]: other variations than paypal ?
SoulShard [?\]: Thank you very much.
bigfish [6k?\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
au2 [4k\]: THANKS TO ING FOUNDATION
tildebis [17k\]: ok
Cornelius [5k?\]: thx
wrong [?\]: see Luo Xihe here: http://www.china.org.cn/english/sports/140138.htm
agui [6k?\]: Thank you very much
tildebis [17k\]: ok
huxley [16k\]: same audioqualitity like here?
wrong [?\]: at the bottom of the page
Uberdude [14k\]: thanks
murky: Thank you 
gogogo07: THANK YOU ;-)
suducodu [?\]: Thank you ing foundation~~~
juve [16k?\]: Thank you very much, 
monchacha [11k\]: thanks guojuan and ing's goe foundation
Horc [4k\]: thx
tildebis [17k\]: thx a lot
Ciovo [9k\]: thanks
DangoMouse [-\]: thankyou
au2 [4k\]: BYE BYE
gogogo07: nice game ;-)
Janez [2k\]: thx
Horc [4k\]: ok
JamesJoker [7k\]: thanks
Bomberman [17k\]: thank you
wingnut [-\]: thank you Guo Juan and Mr Ing, bye
TheDoctor [16k?\]: thank you
fringd [9k\]: :)
Horc [4k\]: bye
wicket [?\]: thanks
davidwatt [9k\]: thank you
Joemac [-\]: thank you
snowmen [2d\]: thanks
xDarigaaz [9k\]: bye bye
dub3: bye
Bodo212 [16k\]: thanks for all
r4nj1t0 [17k\]: thanks, bye
dub3: thx
kuivis [26k\]: bye
Nikolas73 [29k?\]: when's next time?
suducodu [?\]: buh bye~~~
tildebis [17k\]: bye
herogo: by
tibra [13k?\]: thank you, bye
SILD [7k\]: bye
agui [6k?\]: bye
jramon [15k\]: thx
Firzen [17k\]: cya
hihf [11k\]: bye
eggwhisk: thank you bye bye
Nikolas73 [29k?\]: syl
Dinitak [-\]: thanks    bye
]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[se]CR[se]
;B[sf]CR[sf]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[ms]CR[ms]
;B[es]CR[es]
;W[gs]CR[gs]
;B[ao]CR[ao]
;W[an]CR[an]
;B[ap]CR[ap]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[nj]CR[nj]
;W[mi]CR[mi]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[gl]CR[gl]
;B[gj]CR[gj]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ic]CR[ic])
(;B[ra]CR[ra]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[na]CR[na]
;B[se]CR[se]
;W[pa]CR[pa]
;B[sc]CR[sc]))
(;W[oa]CR[oa]))
(;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[oa]CR[oa]
;B[qb]CR[qb]LB[ma:B][pa:A][qa:D][mb:C]C[freeks [12k\]: 18?
wrong [?\]: so W got 3 points in sente
Scribe [-\]: now black (assuming black q19) has 21 points in upper right and white has two more points
Scribe [-\]: fighting for every point
])
(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[herogo: how to speak?
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[Uberdude [14k\]: u cant
Uberdude [14k\]: type
]
(;B[rc]CR[rc]C[herogo: I see
Scribe [-\]: write your question please herogo
]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[re]CR[re]C[Horc [4k\]: 21
Scribe [-\]: now black has 21 points
Scribe [-\]: one point less
Scribe [-\]: and white is larger as well
Horc [4k\]: great
])
(;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[rb]CR[rb]C[MysticoN [10k\]: beautiful move
]
;W[oa]CR[oa])))
(;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[gi]CR[gi]C[herogo: can we help voice?
herogo: how?
]
(;W[hh]CR[hh]C[freeks [12k\]: nice :))
]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
(;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[hj]CR[hj]
;B[ff]CR[ff])
(;W[hg]CR[hg]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[ih]CR[ih]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[ig]CR[ig]
;B[fe]CR[fe]C[Scribe [-\]: professional evaluation during lunch break
]))
(;W[ih]CR[ih]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[hh]CR[hh]
;W[jg]CR[jg]C[Scribe [-\]: refutation to previous line of play.  ko is very big risk for black
])))
(;B[md]CR[md]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[hj]CR[hj]))
(;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[hj]CR[hj]))
(;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[ij]CR[ij]
;W[hj]CR[hj]
;B[jk]CR[jk]
;W[il]CR[il]
;B[hi]CR[hi]))
(;B[jn]CR[jn]
;W[jm]CR[jm]
;B[in]CR[in]
;W[kn]CR[kn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Scribe [-\]: k6 is normal continuation
]
;W[or]CR[or]
(;B[nr]CR[nr]C[Inkognito [4k?\]: thank you and good bye
fringd [9k\]: voice cutting out
gogogo07: voice lag
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[pr]CR[pr]C[monchacha [11k\]: we miss no voice
]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[mo]CR[mo]C[MysticoN [10k\]: oh
MysticoN [10k\]: nice
])
(;B[pr]CR[pr]C[Scribe [-\]: black now cut off
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]LB[mo:A][pq:B]C[monchacha [11k\]: now ok
fringd [9k\]: yah
Uberdude [14k\]: you are too popular!
]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[mo]CR[mo])
(;B[pq]CR[pq]LB[mo:B][nq:A]C[Scribe [-\]: white n5 threat still severe
Scribe [-\]: big difference in points at bottom of screen
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[pp]CR[pp])))
(;B[ab]CR[ab]
;W[ae]CR[ae]LB[bb:A]))
(;B[qk]CR[qk]C[Uberdude [14k\]: yes
blacklabel [12k\]: yes
]
;W[qh]CR[qh]C[wrong [?\]: complicates game
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Scribe [-\]: possible but why, give white a ko 
]))
(;B[qj]CR[qj]
(;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[mn]CR[mn])
(;W[mn]CR[mn]C[Scribe [-\]: very big r10 move
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: he can enter to center
])))
(;B[ml]CR[ml]C[yuanjnpn [8k?\]: 讲解很新颖！
]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
;B[ll]CR[ll]
;W[pk]CR[pk]C[Scribe [-\]: (variation at 80) white escaped but lost all center potential
]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[qj]CR[qj]))
(;W[ok]CR[ok]C[Scribe [-\]: white p7 is only move
]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[nl]CR[nl]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[mm]CR[mm]
;B[ll]CR[ll]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[lm]CR[lm]))
(;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[mp]CR[mp]))
(;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Scribe [-\]: run with it into the white moyo
huxley [16k\]: lag
Firzen [17k\]: sounds broken
fringd [9k\]: can't hear you
gogogo07: voce interrupted!!
])
(;B[]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[rp]CR[rp]))
(;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[lk]CR[lk]
;W[ll]CR[ll]
;B[kk]CR[kk]
;W[kl]CR[kl]
;B[jk]CR[jk])
(;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[Scribe [-\]: touch to get forcing moves (r5 in place of r6) ??
]
;B[oo]TR[oo]C[Horc [4k\]: b strong
MrAnderson: ok
]))
(;B[hk]CR[hk]C[Scribe [-\]: r14*
Horc [4k\]: ^^
]))
(;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[qm]CR[qm]))
(;W[]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
(;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[ee]CR[ee])
(;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ic]CR[ic])))
(;B[og]CR[og]
;W[mg]CR[mg]))
(;W[fi]CR[fi]C[Scribe [-\]: e11 excellent timing
]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[fh]CR[fh]LB[di:A]))
(;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[di]CR[di])
(;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Quinn [11k?\]: wouldnt crosscut only strenghen black?
]
;W[dk]CR[dk]C[Scribe [-\]: white seeks crosscut
]))
(;B[hp]CR[hp])
(;B[ej]CR[ej]
(;W[gj]CR[gj])
(;W[cj]CR[cj]C[Scribe [-\]: even if black one line higher, white will cap
])))
(;W[dj]CR[dj]C[Scribe [-\]: b16 sente
Scribe [-\]: converts moyo to territory now
Horc [4k\]: j3
]
(;B[gr]CR[gr]C[MrAnderson: then black can play Q10 ?
Scribe [-\]: almost impossible for black to invade the left now
]
(;W[hp]CR[hp])
(;W[iq]CR[iq]))
(;B[iq]CR[iq]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[gr]CR[gr]C[Scribe [-\]: good for white
Horc [4k\]: good
Horc [4k\]: hmm
])
(;B[hp]CR[hp]C[Horc [4k\]: ok
]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[kp]CR[kp]C[Scribe [-\]: only option for black
JamesJoker [7k\]: what happens when black play j3? 
Scribe [-\]: must work to reduce moyo
]
;B[en]CR[en]C[JamesJoker [7k\]: corners dies in ko?
])))
(;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;W[hp]CR[hp]C[murky: sound is breaking up
Horc [4k\]: good again
murky: good now
Scribe [-\]: Yes, a little net lag
])
(;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[dq]CR[dq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[Horc [4k\]: ok
]
(;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[gr]CR[gr]C[Scribe [-\]: weak carpenter's square with extension...black is not completely alive
]
;B[pj]CR[pj]LB[hd:A][gp:B]C[freeks [12k\]: wow :)
blacklabel [12k\]: nice
kuivis [26k\]: nice
wingnut [-\]: hehe
davidwatt [9k\]: :)
freeks [12k\]: nice
Scribe [-\]: ladder breaker for both g16 and g3 stones
freeks [12k\]: really
]
;W[mj]CR[mj]C[totylkoja [?\]: ;))))
Horc [4k\]: moyo
freeks [12k\]: hahah :D
ligo [?\]: wow
])
(;B[]C[Scribe [-\]: whtie is much stronger this way
]
(;W[br]CR[br])
(;W[gq]CR[gq]C[Scribe [-\]: joseki
]
;B[]
;W[br]CR[br]))))
(;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[fo]CR[fo]))
(;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[gd]CR[gd]C[Scribe [-\]: another joseki
]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[ef]CR[ef]C[Scribe [-\]: follow up
]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[ff]CR[ff]))
(;W[qf]CR[qf]
;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[of]CR[of]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[qe]CR[qe]C[Horc [4k\]: to a chinese
]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[og]CR[og]))
(;B[ga]CR[ga]C[Kerrick [12k?\]: lee chan ho
Bomberman [17k\]: yup
MysticoN [10k\]: yes
]))
