(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600] PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2006-01-08]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Horc [4k\]: who's this famous player ? Hu [12k?\]: Hello. Hu [12k?\]: Seems to be lots of lag. Horc [4k\]: hiii =) murky: Hi Horc [4k\]: laggy murky: We are here Scribe [-\]: Nihao Guo Juan murky: sound broken Ciovo [9k\]: hi again freeks [13k\]: hi :) suducodu [?\]: Yeppers Uvas [-\]: hihi Uvas [-\]: lag Hu [12k?\]: Maybe related to lots of people opening the game. ^^ nigulh [17k\]: no sound wrong [?\]: oh, i thought it's my ISP :( freeks [13k\]: I guess too much visitors :) Ordiac [8k\]: 'big lag' Horc [4k\]: yes agui [7k?\]: yes ab69f [?\]: yes Tarkam [11k?\]: yes granedez [27k?\]: yes ted [20k\]: ok Omatic [7k?\]: yes wrong [?\]: yes Titonio [-\]: yep grwip [16k\]: yes nigulh [17k\]: yes vin100 [17k?\]: yeah murky: Yes, hear well Scribe [-\]: heavy lag, perhaps we wait a minute for server to catch up ? totylkoja [?\]: yes aleph0 [15k?\]: hear u guojuan [5p\]: 49th Guo Shou Zhan game korean tournament Hu [12k?\]: Yes, sound is ok. suducodu [?\]: Yeps guojuan [5p\]: 49th Guo Shou Zhan game korean tournament Horc [4k\]: hello Uvas [-\]: now good DrGoPlayer [-\]: ok Zark [5k\]: hi agui [7k?\]: Hello playm8 [4k?\]: yes Kernel32 [2k?\]: yes SitaRam [5k\]: yes Omatic [7k?\]: hello again grwip [16k\]: yes freeks [13k\]: yes suducodu [?\]: Sound is goooood wingnut [-\]: yes, can hear you, a little lag Hu [12k?\]: But lots of lag, seems better now. wrong [?\]: no chinese sound :( Slowmotion [2k\]: yes Horc [4k\]: yup grwip [16k\]: y playm8 [4k?\]: yes Uvas [-\]: yes Scribe [-\]: yes JamesJoker [8k\]: y kjp [7k\]: y agui [7k?\]: yes FLgator [8k?\]: yes Horc [4k\]: hi freeks [13k\]: yeah but theres a little lag suducodu [?\]: Yes :D xix [?\]: ok, not good murky: Yes guojuan [5p\]: White is Lee Chang Hao vince [7k\]: yes Sekimoto [8k\]: hellO freeks [13k\]: lee :) wrong [?\]: KGS should introduce DVD-like chosing the appropriate language for sound ^_^ Hu [12k?\]: sound is ok, just laggy. wrong [?\]: yes murky: Clearly xbubu [21k\]: yes guojuan [5p\]: Black is Lee SheolDo Scribe [-\]: Guo Shan == Kuksu ?? Scribe [-\]: Lee Sedol Ordiac [8k\]: chinese rules , i guess ? guojuan [5p\]: Guo Shou Horc [4k\]: cute :) suducodu [?\]: I don't know all these famous ppl >.< ] ;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[dp]CR[dp] ;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[dd]CR[dd] ;B[fq]CR[fq] ;W[cn]CR[cn] ;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[qj]CR[qj] ;B[pk]CR[pk]C[Quinn [11k?\]: fighting player zazizuzou [6k\]: he likes complicating everything? truesaint [10k\]: big mess, lol partisan [19k\]: your talking about b? Ordiac [8k\]: he like captin Scribe [-\]: Lee Sedol played a big moyo here....very unsual for him...big fighting player not a moyo player Quinn [11k?\]: also good at endgame AprilSnow [?\]: Choi CheolHan partisan [19k\]: sribe: b? guojuan [5p\]: Choi CheolHan olczyk [15k\]: Is there a pro that is bad in the endgame? wrong [?\]: no Quinn [11k?\]: choi cheolhan suducodu [?\]: Is that a Korean name suducodu [?\]: ? AprilSnow [?\]: yes suducodu Scribe [-\]: game played on 3 January 2006 Scribe [-\]: http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/new50.php DrGoPlayer [-\]: what software is needed for windows? softblues [-\]: Java guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com wrong [?\]: why not video lessons??? softblues [-\]: They're too large Scribe [-\]: video takes so much bandwidth, audio much better Ordiac [8k\]: w around q14 here ? wrong [?\]: I mean make DVD's and sell for 10-20$ Scribe [-\]: just as effective freeks [13k\]: where to download video? ] ;W[qk]CR[qk] ;B[ql]CR[ql] ;W[rl]CR[rl] ;B[pj]CR[pj] (;W[qm]CR[qm] ;B[pl]CR[pl] ;W[qi]CR[qi]C[Scribe [-\]: q9 touches weak stone ! ] ;B[pm]CR[pm] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[po]CR[po]C[Scribe [-\]: white can play r3 at end of next variation ] ;W[ro]CR[ro]C[Scribe [-\]: basic variation partisan [19k\]: looks quite good for b Ordiac [8k\]: e6? petro [?\]: F5 AprilSnow [?\]: F5 Scribe [-\]: Find the vital point ! ] (;B[fo]CR[fo]C[Scribe [-\]: only one move possible ! Scribe [-\]: Must f5 Scribe [-\]: must now allow white to flatten the bottom ] (;W[dk]CR[dk] ;B[rm]CR[rm] (;W[rn]CR[rn] (;B[fc]CR[fc] ;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[jm]CR[jm] ;B[em]CR[em]C[Scribe [-\]: white reduces the moyo Scribe [-\]: black play on top inconsitent with moyo formed on bottom ] ;W[eq]CR[eq]C[Quinn [11k?\]: lee sedol DrGoPlayer [-\]: w\\ ] (;B[fr]CR[fr]C[freeks [13k\]: black is chang hao? Uvas [-\]: wow ] ;W[dl]CR[dl]LB[cq:C][eq:A][fr:B]C[freeks [13k\]: whoops ok partisan [19k\]: yes ]) (;B[cm]CR[cm]C[Scribe [-\]: Game Scribe [-\]: e3 for f2 makes the invasion at c3 harder to achieve ] ;W[dn]CR[dn] ;B[dm]CR[dm] ;W[fr]CR[fr] ;B[gq]CR[gq] ;W[gr]CR[gr] ;B[hq]CR[hq] ;W[jk]CR[jk]C[Scribe [-\]: game is now quite hard for black Scribe [-\]: black wall on right does not work well now Scribe [-\]: k7 and k9 make black wall cry wrong [?\]: hmmm, what would Nie WeiPing do now... ] ;B[di]CR[di] ;W[fk]CR[fk] ;B[bn]CR[bn] ;W[bo]CR[bo] ;B[bl]CR[bl]C[Scribe [-\]: very hard position for white here (move 49) ] (;W[an]CR[an]C[wrong [?\]: mean in this position, since he's very confident in his fighting power Scribe [-\]: must not allow black to play c3 ] ;B[hk]CR[hk] ;W[ji]CR[ji]C[wrong [?\]: the game seems to be hard for both ] ;B[hi]CR[hi]C[wrong [?\]: why Choi Cheolhan was mentioned at the beginning then? Scribe [-\]: neither white group alive now wrong [?\]: if this is Lee-Lee game ] ;W[lj]CR[lj]C[Scribe [-\]: white defends larger group, which is near black wall wrong [?\]: according th the theory, this is not a good move ] (;B[db]CR[db]C[wrong [?\]: tothe theory* Scribe [-\]: d18 mistake ] (;W[bi]CR[bi]C[Scribe [-\]: black got upper left corner and white got to escape the left side stones AND get sente in the cneter Scribe [-\]: compare upper left if black gets c18 with sequence shown in first Guo Juan lecture today ] ;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[cj]CR[cj] ;B[ej]CR[ej] ;W[ek]CR[ek] ;B[gl]CR[gl] ;W[lm]CR[lm]C[Scribe [-\]: black center now weak. white is happy again ] ;B[bg]CR[bg] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[bf]CR[bf] ;W[be]CR[be]C[Scribe [-\]: Lee Sedol make a huge reading mistake....very unusual ] ;B[ce]CR[ce] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[de]CR[de] ;W[ee]CR[ee] ;B[df]CR[df] ;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[bh]CR[bh] (;W[eh]CR[eh]C[wrong [?\]: maybe there were a spider hanging over the board (like in Go-Takagawa game ;) ) Quinn [11k?\]: that moves mean ^^ Scribe [-\]: e12 beautiful move.....review this game just for this move alone wrong [?\]: was* MysticoN [11k\]: :p suducodu [?\]: ^_^ heh heh... partisan [19k\]: :) likes wine murky: not for W though PlayGo05 [9k\]: why is it dead? Scribe [-\]: at this point the game is over murky: B, I meant freeks [13k\]: nice :D Quinn [11k?\]: game was over indeed wrong [?\]: he was right, the game was over^^ wrong [?\]: but for him PlayGo05 [9k\]: why is B dead? murky: Pro's blind spot playm8 [4k?\]: what if black C11? black will survive, right? tigrenok [14k\]: white dies or black dies? suducodu [?\]: Go and wine :o freeks [13k\]: W+ resign wrong [?\]: b dies freeks [13k\]: :)) ] ;B[ef]CR[ef]C[PlayGo05 [9k\]: y does B die?!?!?!?!?! ] ;W[ff]CR[ff] ;B[fe]CR[fe]C[wrong [?\]: not hard to see move, but hard to see it 10 moves earlier ] ;W[eg]CR[eg] ;B[ed]CR[ed] ;W[dg]CR[dg] ;B[ee]CR[ee] ;W[ch]CR[ch] ;B[fg]CR[fg] ;W[fh]CR[fh] ;B[gg]CR[gg] ;W[gh]CR[gh] ;B[hh]CR[hh] ;W[hg]CR[hg] ;B[gf]CR[gf] ;W[jg]CR[jg] ;B[am]CR[am] ;W[bm]CR[bm]C[Hu [12k?\]: White is Lee Chang Hao, Black is Lee Sedol, played 3 Jan. 2006. http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/new50.php petro [?\]: try tom.com Quinn [11k?\]: go4go is a good game record site Scribe [-\]: good site with many games added each week DrGoPlayer [-\]: it is on cyberoro server also wingnut [-\]: yes we can find easy :) Kamiah [?\]: nice! wrong [?\]: hope You can comment Gu Li - Iyama Yuta game, after their match acmh7 [8k\]: does that work on Macintosh ? DrGoPlayer [-\]: what windows program to play those new files? Scribe [-\]: JAVA DrGoPlayer [-\]: i tried azureus guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com Kamiah [?\]: thank you! Hu [12k?\]: Thank you GuoJuan! Scribe [-\]: Xiexie Guo Juan grwip [16k\]: thanks happy53 [12k\]: thx Horc [4k\]: nooo i missed everything :( xDarigaaz [9k\]: Thank you Horc [4k\]: thx freeks [13k\]: thx to you guo juan sensei rzhao [2k\]: thx Scribe [-\]: Thanks to the Ing Goe Foundation vin100 [17k?\]: thank you very much ljl [14k\]: thx freeks [13k\]: thx to ings fouundation wingnut [-\]: thanks guojuan MysticoN [11k\]: thank you Guojuan cachet [12k\]: thx wrong [?\]: Thank You very much Inkognito [4k?\]: thx vince [7k\]: thank you murky: thanks ljl [14k\]: thx Ing foundation ]) (;W[dg]CR[dg] ;B[ef]CR[ef] ;W[eg]CR[eg] ;B[ff]CR[ff] ;W[fg]CR[fg] ;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: white dies everywhere in upper left ])) (;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: what balck wants ] (;W[] ;B[cb]CR[cb] ;W[bb]CR[bb] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[bc]CR[bc] ;B[ce]CR[ce] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[bf]CR[bf]) (;W[cb]CR[cb]))) (;B[ch]CR[ch] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[lm]CR[lm]C[Scribe [-\]: black hits important point playm8 [4k?\]: is M7 best attacking position? Scribe [-\]: keeps white weak wingnut [-\]: black fixes and attacks W middle group ])) (;W[fi]CR[fi]C[Sumo [2k?\]: this game is between lee changho(w) vs lee sedol(b) Ordiac [8k\]: lots aji in corner Hu [12k?\]: White is Lee Chang Hao, Black is Lee Sedol, played 3 Jan. 2006. http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/new50.php ] ;B[bp]CR[bp] ;W[ao]CR[ao] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[br]CR[br] ;W[cq]CR[cq]C[Scribe [-\]: white c3 is vital point ]))) (;B[gk]CR[gk]C[Quinn [11k?\]: not many koreans play moyo games ^^ ] ;W[jj]CR[jj]C[wrong [?\]: Takemiya Masaki surely is not his idol ;) ] (;B[kl]CR[kl]C[Scribe [-\]: standard moyo game conituation play ]) (;B[jl]CR[jl] ;W[eq]CR[eq] ;B[fr]CR[fr]))) (;W[rk]CR[rk] ;B[rq]CR[rq]C[Scribe [-\]: cut is good timing ])) (;W[dr]CR[dr]C[Scribe [-\]: territorial move ] ;B[dm]CR[dm])) (;B[] (;W[ho]CR[ho]) (;W[go]CR[go]))) (;W[rm]CR[rm] ;B[qi]CR[qi] ;W[pl]CR[pl] ;B[pi]CR[pi] ;W[ol]CR[ol] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[qm]CR[qm] ;B[mp]CR[mp] ;W[nc]CR[nc]LB[qq:A]C[Scribe [-\]: another basic variation Scribe [-\]: black territory not safe yet ]))