(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]
PW[mingjiu]PB[mingjiu]WR[7p]BR[7p]DT[2006-01-01]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Uvas [-\]: hello
agui [7k?\]: Hello
xDarigaaz [9k\]: hi
imbad [14k\]: hello
Sekimoto [8k\]: morning
totylkoja [?\]: Hello
Ahndraniel [?\]: happy new year!
agui [7k?\]: Happy new year !!
xDarigaaz [9k\]: happy new year to you too
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]
(;W[dc]CR[dc]
(;B[pp]CR[pp]
(;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[dj]CR[dj]LB[ce:A][co:B]C[Uvas [-\]: nice
agui [7k?\]: correct
Uvas [-\]: i like it
Sekimoto [8k\]: dont knoe
agui [7k?\]: white can also split with R10
xDarigaaz [9k\]: i play c10 :)
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[imbad [14k\]: k17
sergiop [10k\]: why not high approach at D5?
agui [7k?\]: seems good
Sai888 [14k\]: white gets big coner territory
]
(;B[co]CR[co]C[Uvas [-\]: c65
Uvas [-\]: c5
Uvas [-\]: sorry
Scribe [-\]: HNY all!
Sai888 [14k\]: dont pincer for white
Sai888 [14k\]: that's bad
]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[Scribe [-\]: after black r12 white needs to fix his shape....p6 does that
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[dl]CR[dl]C[Scribe [-\]: Mingjiu prefers to play c5 as black
])
(;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[cp]CR[cp]C[Scribe [-\]: d10 better than c10 ???
Scribe [-\]: black c6 is a slow move
KaDu [6k\]: no c4 slow mov
jeandoute [3d\]: e6?
Scribe [-\]: e6 not needed because white c12 does not exist at this time
jeandoute [3d\]: j17?
Uvas [-\]: c13?
xDarigaaz [9k\]: k16 isnt possible?
Scribe [-\]: black q10 is proper, save e6 for after white c12
]
(;B[en]CR[en]C[jeandoute [3d\]: g3
ljl [14k?\]: g4
KaDu [6k\]: b doesn't need to jump?
Uvas [-\]: better c13?
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]C[jeandoute [3d\]: yep c12 isnt there
])
(;B[gq]CR[gq])
(;B[gp]CR[gp]C[jeandoute [3d\]: for w after e6 sorry
ljl [14k?\]: sorry I ment g4 as an answer to E6
])
(;B[fq]CR[fq]C[totylkoja [?\]: tenuki?
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]C[ljl [14k?\]: white splits
Scribe [-\]: f3 probably not
agui [7k?\]: q10
totylkoja [?\]: q10 or sth
DonQ [15k\]: k16?
]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Scribe [-\]: white will split black
xDarigaaz [9k\]: i like K16 to reduce whites shimari potencial :)
]
;W[ch]CR[ch]C[KaDu [6k\]: e6 now
KaDu [6k\]: for b
agui [7k?\]: no
KaDu [6k\]: no
jeandoute [3d\]: b's floating
imbad [14k\]: bad for b
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no
])
(;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Uvas [-\]: c13?
Uvas [-\]: oh
Spectrums [30k?\]: E4?
Scribe [-\]: black should complete the sanrensei formation
jeandoute [3d\]: ok
]
(;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[en]CR[en])
(;W[jd]CR[jd]
(;B[ip]CR[ip])
(;B[ep]CR[ep]C[KaDu [6k\]: no
]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[gq]CR[gq])
(;B[jp]CR[jp]C[KaDu [6k\]: e4 very bad
])))
(;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
(;B[fp]CR[fp]C[jeandoute [3d\]: without the exchange
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]C[Scribe [-\]: just play q10 directly, e4 and f4 are not needed
jeandoute [3d\]: and j17?
Scribe [-\]: better for balck than playing e4, f4 to play j4 after white k16
]
(;B[pj]CR[pj]TR[ek][fk][el][fl][ep][fp])
(;B[ic]CR[ic]))
(;B[gp]CR[gp]C[ljl [14k?\]: f4
]))
(;B[ch]CR[ch]C[Scribe [-\]: black c12 is very slow, white can still invade at two places
]
(;W[cl]CR[cl])
(;W[dk]CR[dk])
(;W[nc]CR[nc]TR[ch][dj]C[KaDu [6k\]: m17
freeks [13k\]: hi mingjiuuuuuuuuuu :)
olczyk [15k\]: It's bad because Q16 is weak and needs help.
Sai888 [14k\]: too slow
Scribe [-\]: white d17 and L17 pressure black two stones on top too much
KaDu [6k\]: sor14 good?
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]C[KaDu [6k\]: hum
imbad [14k\]: l17
KaDu [6k\]: l17
totylkoja [?\]: l17
xDarigaaz [9k\]: l17
BuddyL [8k\]: g17
KaDu [6k\]: L17
tildebis [17k\]: l17
Zark [5k\]: bad
Sai888 [14k\]: that's not good
Scribe [-\]: is j17 the best place on the top to invade ?
agui [7k?\]: white R14
playm8 [5k?\]: it doesn't put much pressure on O17
whendrik [17k\]: tenuki for white?
Sai888 [14k\]: long pincer
KaDu [6k\]: j17 very good 
Zark [5k\]: not pincer
imbad [14k\]: too easy on w
DnF [6k\]: white can L17
obakeneko [7k\]: white gets l17 and is save
Sai888 [14k\]: how about extend on side
KaDu [6k\]: no with j17 b can go f17 or m17 after
freeks [13k\]: oh noooo I'm late
KaDu [6k\]: so its good
KaDu [6k\]: :-p ok thanks
KaDu [6k\]: excellent you say Sai :-p
Sai888 [14k\]: how about just play a normal joseki
]
(;W[kc]CR[kc]C[freeks [13k\]: I don't think j17 is a pincer :)
KaDu [6k\]: so j17 was bad after all
Sai888 [14k\]: ya
Scribe [-\]: if black wants to pincer may be m17 is better than j17
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]TR[dc][kc][pd][ce]C[Sai888 [14k\]: too tight
Sai888 [14k\]: white got reinforements
kjp [7k\]: now B has to answer, and W can attack on the right
]
;W[ee]CR[ee]LB[ic:C][ch:B][cn:A]
(;B[ie]CR[ie]C[freeks [13k\]: hahhhh, 5 straight wins
]
(;W[pb]CR[pb]C[Scribe [-\]: hard for black now....due to mistakes at c6, c12, and j17
Sai888 [14k\]: why not go r14
Sai888 [14k\]: for w
Scribe [-\]: white needs to settle on the top with q18
]
(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Sai888 [14k\]: white could make q4 inefficient
]
;W[pg]CR[pg])
(;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[qk]CR[qk])
(;B[qm]CR[qm]))
(;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: why not h15 for b
Ordiac [8k\]: settle that shape fast ?
freeks [13k\]: oh a lag
Sai888 [14k\]: black is losing
]
;B[oc]CR[oc]LB[ie:A]C[maipianist [2k?\]: L15?
]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[oe]CR[oe]C[imbad [14k\]: complicated fight for w
giak2w [1d\]: P16 now?
Scribe [-\]: not good for white since balck has strength on both sides of the three white stones at L and O lines
DnF [6k\]: more complicated
giak2w [1d\]: P16 now?
whendrik [17k\]: white is in danger
freeks [13k\]: a what?
]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[pb]CR[pb]TR[pf][qf]C[maipianist [2k?\]: L15?
giak2w [1d\]: ah i see, thanks
Scribe [-\]: white can not play this way, two stones are wasted
]))
(;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: terrible for white
DnF [6k\]: can white now cap at J15?
Sai888 [14k\]: b jump
KaDu [6k\]: j15 
]
(;W[gd]CR[gd]
(;B[gc]CR[gc]
;W[hd]CR[hd]C[freeks [13k\]: no not j15 
]
(;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[lc]CR[lc])
(;B[id]CR[id]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[gb]CR[gb]C[Sai888 [14k\]: too much influence for white
Sai888 [14k\]: in that situation
freeks [13k\]: for white, a little bit
Scribe [-\]: living on the top only, sealed in, is not good for black
]
(;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[hf]CR[hf]C[KaDu [6k\]: very bad for b
DnF [6k\]: huge corner
Sai888 [14k\]: this is even worse
Uvas [-\]: big w corner
])
(;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[ga]CR[ga]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[hf]CR[hf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: b die
freeks [13k\]: oh oh
freeks [13k\]: yeah
Sai888 [14k\]: on the corner
]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Scribe [-\]: balck very busy
]
;B[ca]CR[ca]
;W[if]CR[if]C[Sai888 [14k\]: l16
Sai888 [14k\]: they must escape
freeks [13k\]: not for black
agui [7k?\]: not for black
xDarigaaz [9k\]: for white
])))
(;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[ie]CR[ie]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Sai888 [14k\]: this is escellent for b
]
;W[kf]CR[kf]C[whendrik [17k\]: nope
]))
(;W[je]TR[dc][kc][nc][nd][ce][ee][je]C[KaDu [6k\]: p17 just not necessary
freeks [13k\]: mingjiu who played this game against you?
KaDu [6k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: the three white stones in the corner are stronger than the four white on the top
KaDu [6k\]: not important :-)
Sai888 [14k\]: why mingjiu dont talk
freeks [13k\]: haha
freeks [13k\]: ok ok :)
Scribe [-\]: o escape black needs to play f15, saving several options to attack white on the top
]
(;B[db]CR[db]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Sai888 [14k\]: h15
]
;B[fe]CR[fe])
(;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[Sai888 [14k\]: mingjiu
]
;W[kd]CR[kd]C[Scribe [-\]: to escape black needs to play f15, saving several options to attack white
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[jf]CR[jf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: ... that was my original
]
;B[ge]CR[ge]C[Sai888 [14k\]: inadequate chape
Sai888 [14k\]: shape
freeks [13k\]: who played the game?
whendrik [17k\]: destroy potential?
Sai888 [14k\]: in this situation white is getting pressed on top left
Scribe [-\]: result good for whtie
KaDu [6k\]: i hate it when w does something like r12 no good way to counter
]
(;W[qn]CR[qn]C[Sai888 [14k\]: pincer
KaDu [6k\]: r10
KaDu [6k\]: r10 for b
Sai888 [14k\]: o6
Scribe [-\]: white should play r12 not r6
Scribe [-\]: black r10 is correct direction
]
(;B[qj]CR[qj]C[freeks [13k\]: white can't doubleplay :)
])
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[freeks [13k\]: no
KaDu [6k\]: not really
freeks [13k\]: not yet
KaDu [6k\]: because w can go r12
whendrik [17k\]: dont now
Ambivlnce [13k\]: no
freeks [13k\]: at first it doesnt defend
freeks [13k\]: r3
Scribe [-\]: n3 is a slow move
Imoto [12k?\]: Only when b have K4
agui [7k?\]: r12
Zark [5k\]: r3
xDarigaaz [9k\]: r12 now?
agui [7k?\]: no
freeks [13k\]: no
imbad [14k\]: no
braincrash [?\]: did you move your microphone?
]
(;W[qh]CR[qh]C[freeks [13k\]: pincer
hurricane [7k\]: still r12 
freeks [13k\]: :)
freeks [13k\]: pincer is still ok :)
])
(;W[qq]CR[qq]C[Scribe [-\]: r12 still good for white
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pq]CR[pq]C[Sai888 [14k\]: p3
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no
freeks [13k\]: shouldn't played yet
])
(;W[pj]LB[dj:A][pj:D][cn:B][qn:C]C[freeks [13k\]: no it's a lag, brain
ArCosH [5k\]: helium accident
freeks [13k\]: haha
KaDu [6k\]: g3 very big now
KaDu [6k\]: for b
xDarigaaz [9k\]: :)
Scribe [-\]: white q10 invites black r12, which fixes black's shape and hurts white's
hurricane [7k\]: what can black do after white r12 ? (without r6 n3 exchange)
]
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[imbad [14k\]: big corner for b
freeks [13k\]: yes
])
(;B[qp]CR[qp]LB[qh:A]C[Sai888 [14k\]: slow
Scribe [-\]: black r3 slow
freeks [13k\]: you shoulda play r12 :)
Sai888 [14k\]: yes.,
Sai888 [14k\]: for black that's good
KaDu [6k\]: w p6 is unecessary because no r12 stone
freeks [13k\]: yeah
]
(;W[on]CR[on]LB[en:A]C[whendrik [17k\]: r12
KaDu [6k\]: no
Scribe [-\]: white p6 is very slow, white should play r12
]
(;B[ql]CR[ql]C[KaDu [6k\]: (if w plays r12 symetrie with b on the left side)
Scribe [-\]: black needs r12 in order to invade at r8
KaDu [6k\]: ....
imbad [14k\]: p8
xDarigaaz [9k\]: r12 first? its sente no?
agui [7k?\]: r7
KaDu [6k\]: p8 for w?
Zark [5k\]: q7?
Scribe [-\]: how can white punish black r8 move ?
freeks [13k\]: r9?
freeks [13k\]: xD
whendrik [17k\]: s10?
freeks [13k\]: but it's wrong :)
Ordiac [8k\]: id bet on just q8
agui [7k?\]: p8
KaDu [6k\]: i wonder if w plays n9 
agui [7k?\]: yes, no good
freeks [13k\]: white?
agui [7k?\]: q9
freeks [13k\]: r9 is the worst :)
KaDu [6k\]: n9
happy53 [12k\]: b
imbad [14k\]: complicated fighting
freeks [13k\]: I like mingjius lessons
golawyer2 [8k\]: q7
kjp [7k\]: What about Q9
]
(;W[qk]CR[qk]C[freeks [13k\]: yo
totylkoja [?\]: r7
Ahndraniel [?\]: p8
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]C[freeks [13k\]: p9
freeks [13k\]: ?
playm8 [5k?\]: looks painful for white
imbad [14k\]: o8?
playm8 [5k?\]: black can still connect under with S6
KaDu [6k\]: o8
cdub [?\]: o10
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: o8
Kennabee [6k\]: N6
freeks [13k\]: p9
xDarigaaz [9k\]: black
playm8 [5k?\]: R9 strengthens black
Scribe [-\]: bad idea
cdub [?\]: O10?
Scribe [-\]: white has no continuation
freeks [13k\]: what about p9?
freeks [13k\]: hm ok :(
freeks [13k\]: :)*
]
;W[ol]CR[ol]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: Kadu:but you can attack black in corner if black doesnt answer
KaDu [6k\]: o8
freeks [13k\]: no
imbad [14k\]: o8
freeks [13k\]: it's one right
freeks [13k\]: left
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: no, it's p8
imbad [14k\]: not p8
KaDu [6k\]: one space a left :_)
playm8 [5k?\]: yes :)
]
;B[rm]CR[rm]C[freeks [13k\]: hahah I don't think we want :)
Ordiac [8k\]: lol no this is p8
Ahndraniel [?\]: no
imbad [14k\]: no
]
(;W[ok]CR[ok]C[freeks [13k\]: no
]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[freeks [13k\]: no
agui [7k?\]: no
])
(;W[rn]CR[rn]C[playm8 [5k?\]: no, but we are still alive
]
;B[pm]CR[pm]C[freeks [13k\]: especially not :)
KaDu [6k\]: so maybe o8 :-))
freeks [13k\]: now problem :)
freeks [13k\]: b
imbad [14k\]: good for b
agui [7k?\]: for black
]))
(;W[rj]CR[rj]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: r12
freeks [13k\]: right?
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: r12 n fighting ^^
freeks [13k\]: exotic :)
freeks [13k\]: hehe ^^"
]
;B[ol]CR[ol]C[kjp [7k\]: jump
imbad [14k\]: jump
Scribe [-\]: black gains from white s10
]
(;W[rl]CR[rl]C[Ordiac [8k\]: or r11 first for black ?
imbad [14k\]: no
giak2w [1d\]: no
ArCosH [5k\]: for each kibitz println ("no");
agui [7k?\]: r7
freeks [13k\]: no
]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
(;W[qm]CR[qm]C[playm8 [5k?\]: i want to connect
])
(;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[pn]CR[pn])
(;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[rk]CR[rk]))
(;W[mn]CR[mn]
;B[ml]CR[ml]C[playm8 [5k?\]: 2 weak groups
imbad [14k\]: no
playm8 [5k?\]: black 1
KaDu [6k\]: right
whendrik [17k\]: no
Ahndraniel [?\]: for b
agui [7k?\]: yes , for black
freeks [13k\]: no
imbad [14k\]: w has no shape
freeks [13k\]: yes, or no, who cares :)
Ordiac [8k\]: well looks playable
]))
(;W[qm]CR[qm]C[Kennabee [6k\]: Q8
KaDu [6k\]: p8 
playm8 [5k?\]: white seriously unhappy still
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[ol]CR[ol]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[nm]CR[nm]C[Scribe [-\]: white's shape is brokend
]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[pk]CR[pk]C[freeks [13k\]: no
freeks [13k\]: nota good
])
(;W[pl]CR[pl]C[xDarigaaz [9k\]: r12 is sente why not play it first for white?
QuanSiMenh [10k\]: b
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[whendrik [17k\]: i like black
xDarigaaz [9k\]: black
]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[KaDu [6k\]: b satisfied
agui [7k?\]: equal
ljl [14k\]: black is very happy
Ahndraniel [?\]: not good for w
imbad [14k\]: big corner upper right for b
xDarigaaz [9k\]: i like black
Ordiac [8k\]: w get superior outside
hurricane [7k\]: hard to use this influence i think
whendrik [17k\]: Black
kjp [7k\]: B
KaDu [6k\]: b
KaDu [6k\]: b
Scribe [-\]: result is good for black
])
(;W[ol]TR[ol]C[freeks [13k\]: p8 seems good
KaDu [6k\]: well if w plays r12 b may play p8
KaDu [6k\]: so no sente
freeks [13k\]: but
KaDu [6k\]: n9
freeks [13k\]: looks playable 
kjp [7k\]: Q9
carlo [8k\]: S10 
freeks [13k\]: black says, If you want to kill me, you have to stand up earlier than me and then he lose :)
imbad [14k\]: short of lib
KaDu [6k\]: r10
kjp [7k\]: Q9
KaDu [6k\]: r10 for b?
KaDu [6k\]: :-)))
freeks [13k\]: Oh no, wrong agaaaaain ^^"
]
(;B[rn]CR[rn]C[KaDu [6k\]: n9?
]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[qo]CR[qo]C[imbad [14k\]: porr b
]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[sn]CR[sn]
;B[rj]CR[rj]C[freeks [13k\]: hhhm
]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
(;W[ri]CR[ri]C[KaDu [6k\]: oh
KaDu [6k\]: ohhhhh
freeks [13k\]: yes
KaDu [6k\]: sometimes you have to give up
KaDu [6k\]: :-))
]
(;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
(;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[si]CR[si]
;W[qk]CR[qk]C[freeks [13k\]: hahaahh poor black
freeks [13k\]: :))
])
(;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[rh]CR[rh]C[KaDu [6k\]: lol
]))
(;B[sl]CR[sl]
;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[sp]CR[sp]
;W[qk]CR[qk]))
(;W[sp]CR[sp]))
(;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Scribe [-\]: balck must not connect using s6
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[pk]CR[pk]C[freeks [13k\]: p10?
freeks [13k\]: no
freeks [13k\]: wait
Judgment [21k?\]: s10?
kjp [7k\]: extend
Ishikawa [-\]: p9
agui [7k?\]: p9
]
;W[rj]CR[rj]C[freeks [13k\]: p9
]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[KaDu [6k\]: i think this is good for w
freeks [13k\]: no ouch
freeks [13k\]: auch
]
(;W[ok]CR[ok])
(;W[oj]CR[oj]C[KaDu [6k\]: s10 bad
ljl [14k\]: no good for white
freeks [13k\]: hm
kjp [7k\]: extend
KaDu [6k\]: ?
ljl [14k\]: too many cuts
kjp [7k\]: P10
KaDu [6k\]: q11
freeks [13k\]: ok
KaDu [6k\]: q11 cut
freeks [13k\]: :D
]
;B[ok]CR[ok]C[agui [7k?\]: bad shape for white
]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[nl]CR[nl]C[freeks [13k\]: yo
])))
(;W[ok]CR[ok]C[carlo [8k\]: S10 
freeks [13k\]: looks good
agui [7k?\]: s11
freeks [13k\]: oh
Scribe [-\]: important to learn the p9 move
]
(;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[qm]CR[qm]C[Scribe [-\]: different path
]
;B[pm]CR[pm]C[freeks [13k\]: :)
]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[rl]CR[rl]C[freeks [13k\]: but I don't know :)
]
;W[sn]CR[sn]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[ri]CR[ri]C[kjp [7k\]: nice
freeks [13k\]: geeez hehe black :)
Scribe [-\]: same as before
freeks [13k\]: black has to stand up earlier
])
(;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[pk]CR[pk])
(;B[rl]CR[rl]LB[qi:B][rn:A]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[rf]CR[rf]C[freeks [13k\]: double trouble
Scribe [-\]: s8 give black two ways to go: s6 and r11
freeks [13k\]: :)
KaDu [6k\]: I see all this was meant to show how bad p6 is
])
(;B[qh]CR[qh]
(;W[rj]CR[rj])
(;W[qi]CR[qi])))
(;W[pk]CR[pk]C[freeks [13k\]: looks like a rocket back to the earth *g*
]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
(;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[om]CR[om])
(;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[rn]CR[rn])
(;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[rl]CR[rl]LB[qi:B][rn:A]C[kjp [7k\]: yes
freeks [13k\]: boah
playm8 [5k?\]: black has his miai back :)
]
(;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[freeks [13k\]: bad shape :P
Ahndraniel [?\]: empty triangle :-)
Scribe [-\]: s8 looks strange but give both s6 and r11
])
(;W[qh]CR[qh]C[imbad [14k\]: s8 very strange looking
kjp [7k\]: no sound
freeks [13k\]: sound gone only by me?
DnF [6k\]: no sound here either
happy53 [12k\]: me too
imbad [14k\]: tht's why he 7p and i 14k
KaDu [6k\]: right
freeks [13k\]: haha
zee [9k\]: no sound
Imoto [12k?\]: no sound
KaDu [6k\]: maybe he just not talking?
happy53 [12k\]: no sound
freeks [13k\]: maybe a big lag :)
braincrash [?\]: well no moves either
Judgment [21k?\]: maybe afk?
Scribe [-\]: please wait patiently
ljl [14k\]: we KILLED THE TEACHER!!!!
braincrash [?\]: disconnect probably
ljl [14k\]: life is over
ljl [14k\]: its the end of the world!
whendrik [17k\]: ?
KaDu [6k\]: ?
freeks [13k\]: no he's here
KaDu [6k\]: :-s
Uvas [-\]: mingjiu is tired he taught for whole time
rans [15k\]: be patient
freeks [13k\]: a problem with the microphone maybe
carlo [8k\]: S6 
KaDu [6k\]: well time is gone for w
KaDu [6k\]: look up
freeks [13k\]: yes, black can s6 now
kjp [7k\]: but then W will move up into the B at the top
xDarigaaz [9k\]: and white S14
KaDu [6k\]: well b can separate w
KaDu [6k\]: p8
Stormlord [?\]: :/
xDarigaaz [9k\]: i think black must first protect corner
freeks [13k\]: he'll come back
ljl [14k\]: looks like reboot time
KaDu [6k\]: thank you for the lesson
xDarigaaz [9k\]: then he can separate
honeyspoon: hello guojuan!
braincrash [?\]: takes quite a while beore KGS figures out  disconnect
kjp [7k\]: P8 - Q8 - Q7 - P7, will cut W, but B has to run as well as W
kjp [7k\]: with P8
freeks [13k\]: black will probably play s6
kjp [7k\]: then W S14
babysitter [?\]: what about s13, still two ways to connect for b
freeks [13k\]: maybe his computer collapsed?
whendrik [17k\]: This is the end of the lesson?
braincrash [?\]: maybe
whendrik [17k\]: Thank you MingJiu
freeks [13k\]: no not the end
kjp [7k\]: S13 - S6 - S11 - S12 - T12 - S10
xDarigaaz [9k\]: even if he fixs his computer, there is no time to continue in lesson
freeks [13k\]: maybe power blackout?
freeks [13k\]: hmmm :(
mosda: can any high dan continue the lesson?
xDarigaaz [9k\]: lol
freeks [13k\]: how he should continue without control?
mosda: just copy
mosda: clone this
kjp [7k\]: S13 and on - will properly end in ko
mosda: :(
kjp [7k\]: a big one
babysitter [?\]: s13-s6-s12?
Ordiac [8k\]: dont forget w has some nasty aji top right ?
mosda: ill go with p9 next time such a situation arises
xDarigaaz [9k\]: babysitter:S13-s6-s12-s10
kjp [7k\]: yes, S10
kjp [7k\]: then the 3 stone are captured
kjp [7k\]: S11 is better for B
]))))
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[cdub [?\]: i don't like white
braincrash [?\]: not very punishing
]))
(;W[qh]CR[qh]C[Ordiac [8k\]: or p3 ?
])
(;W[]C[Sai888 [14k\]: in this exchange black is winning
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[KaDu [6k\]: :-)
freeks [13k\]: hhaah :))
]
;W[on]CR[on]C[Uvas [-\]: I hear bells
KaDu [6k\]: its christmas
])))))
(;W[qh]CR[qh]TR[kc][nc][kd][nd][je][if][jf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: that hurts
]))
(;B[kd]CR[kd])
(;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[ed]CR[ed]C[Sai888 [14k\]: seriously
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[gf]CR[gf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: why
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]C[KaDu [6k\]: but does j15 work for w also instead ok k15?
]
;B[he]CR[he]TR[kd]C[Sai888 [14k\]: againt with teh bad g16
]
;W[]
(;B[nf]CR[nf])
(;B[kb]CR[kb])
(;B[lb]CR[lb])))))
(;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Imoto [12k?\]: For w instead of Q18
]))
(;B[qf]CR[qf]C[Sai888 [14k\]: that's ok
Sai888 [14k\]: play joseki
maipianist [2k?\]: r 14 is good enough
Scribe [-\]: r14 proper
Sai888 [14k\]: i mean w
]
(;W[jd]CR[jd]TR[ch][dj]C[DnF [6k\]: yes
Sai888 [14k\]: yes
Sai888 [14k\]: good 
DnF [6k\]: i would be worried about this
Ahndraniel [?\]: no
Zark [5k\]: no
Scribe [-\]: once the two (c12 and d10) stones are played, black is not worried about white moyo on top of board
xDarigaaz [9k\]: no
kjp [7k\]: no, B can still invade with backup
xDarigaaz [9k\]: E15?
Sai888 [14k\]: but can cut
]
(;B[hc]CR[hc])
(;B[ec]CR[ec])
(;B[lc]CR[lc]))
(;W[kc]CR[kc]))
(;B[lc]CR[lc]C[KaDu [6k\]: oh
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
(;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[pb]CR[pb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[qf]CR[qf]TR[dc][ce]C[kjp [7k\]: bad for B
Sai888 [14k\]: not too good
])
(;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[me]CR[me]C[kjp [7k\]: a little better, I think
Scribe [-\]: white got q10 now
]
;W[pj]CR[pj]C[Sai888 [14k\]: bad
Sai888 [14k\]: for b
kjp [7k\]: still bad yes
Scribe [-\]: cant play this way.....black q10 stone is missing
])))))
(;B[do]CR[do]
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[cr]CR[cr]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[er]CR[er]C[giak2w [1d\]: after the invasion
]
(;B[ck]CR[ck]TR[dj])
(;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Imoto [12k?\]: no
agui [7k?\]: no
]
(;W[cl]CR[cl])
(;W[dl]CR[dl]TR[dc][ce]C[whendrik [17k\]: cristal clear
giak2w [1d\]: what if b plays F5 now?
manakem10 [-\]: c9=joseki
]))
(;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[hp]CR[hp]C[giak2w [1d\]: after white invades
]
;B[cg]CR[cg]LB[ci:B][cl:A]TR[fn][fo][go][hp]C[Uvas [-\]: ok
totylkoja [?\]: yes
Sekimoto [8k\]: yes
Scribe [-\]: the two marked black stones for hte two white marked stones is a bad exahnge fro black
whendrik [17k\]: cristal clear
agui [7k?\]: yes clear
xDarigaaz [9k\]: yes
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
(;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ch]CR[ch]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[bg]CR[bg])
(;B[dh]CR[dh]C[Sai888 [14k\]: mm...
]
;W[cj]CR[cj])
(;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[bk]CR[bk]C[Sai888 [14k\]: could you start over
]
;W[bi]CR[bi]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[bg]CR[bg]LB[bl:A])))
(;W[co]CR[co]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[manakem10 [-\]: hi scribe, happy new year
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[fq]CR[fq]
;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Scribe [-\]: this is okay for balck
])))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]))
(;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pj]CR[pj]C[Sai888 [14k\]: what's so good about r6
Scribe [-\]: in this case black r4 is fine...joseki
])
(;W[pj]CR[pj]
(;B[qg]CR[qg]
;W[qo]CR[qo])
(;B[qf]CR[qf]
(;W[qo]CR[qo])
(;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[Scribe [-\]: white must appoarch all the way to one space after q10 is played
Scribe [-\]: therefore r5 not r6 for whtie
])))))
(;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[cn]CR[cn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[qn]CR[qn]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pj]CR[pj]
;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[on]CR[on]C[jeandoute [3d\]: yup
]))
